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Just now, scotchy1 said:

Its truly bizarre that The Sun should any sway whatsoever in where we hold the Magic Weekend. 

 

Did I say that or are you just making things up again?

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3 minutes ago, Damien said:

Did I say that or are you just making things up again?

I think you need to read the thread. Its kind of the debate going on here. 

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3 hours ago, JohnM said:

Ignorance is bliss, eh? 

pray tell how am i'm i ignorant on the scumbags  and their ban for some one who list his interests as fact not fiction let me tell you a fact the scunbags are banned from anfield end of story

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1 minute ago, scotchy1 said:

I think you need to read the thread. Its kind of the debate going on here. 

No you quoted me to be argumentative about a point I hadn't raised. If you wish to change your argument to something else then quote that person. Its quite simple.

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16 minutes ago, Damien said:

No you quoted me to be argumentative about a point I hadn't raised. If you wish to change your argument to something else then quote that person. Its quite simple.

I quoted you about the point of the thread. If you wish to post on a different thread start one. Its quite simple. 

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18 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

I quoted you about the point of the thread. If you wish to post on a different thread start one. Its quite simple. 

Stop being contrary. If you are going to reply with nonsense to always have the last post at least let it make sense.

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1 hour ago, The Future is League said:

No true football fan or Rugby League fan would buy The Sun.

 

What a load of elitist nonsense.

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Just now, Dave T said:

What a load of elitist nonsense.

It is. I just don't get this holier than thou attitude. Each to their own what they wish to read. I never buy the Sun either but I'm not going to look down my nose at someone that does. The game getting less coverage and less news in a publication that gets millions reading both in print and online shouldn't be seen as good news, particularly when we get so little coverage as is.

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I really doubt the Sun need an excuse to stop covering the sport. Plenty of papers have stopped before. They can just stop whenever they want. They don't need to justify it with this. It's just paranoia.

Equally, while publicity is obviously good in the main, how many non-fans thumb through it and think "ooh, wonder if there's a game next week." - none.

Coverage in stuff like that is just something that makes existing fans happy.  haven't they had a paywall online for years, so the online audience is already niche.

I do wonder though if they will cover the next RL drug/sex scandal - I'm sure they will.

 

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1 minute ago, scotchy1 said:

In what way is it elitist? 

Suggesting you are not a 'true' RL fan if you buy a certain newspaper is certainly elitist.

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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Suggesting you are not a 'true' RL fan if you buy a certain newspaper is certainly elitist.

Is it? Im not sure elitist is the right word but thinking that The Sun newspaper and its behaviour and outlook are incompatible with the game and its history might not be an argument you agree with but its certainly a valid argument to make, rooted in supporting evidence and history. 

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16 minutes ago, Damien said:

. The game getting less coverage and less news in a publication that gets millions reading both in print and online 

the scumbags cover all home games and report breaking liverpool news  all the time so getting reports on magic wasn't out of the realms of possibility  bottom line they didn't want to and are using the ban as an excuse to finally get rid of northern working class flatcap sport rugby league

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11 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

Is it? Im not sure elitist is the right word but thinking that The Sun newspaper and its behaviour and outlook are incompatible with the game and its history might not be an argument you agree with but its certainly a valid argument to make, rooted in supporting evidence and history. 

Urban dictionary definition fits quite nicely:

In short, a person, or group of persons, who believes something about them make them superior to others, and they feel the need to flaunt it...

It is entirely possible to be an RL fan and buy a certain newspaper.

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1 minute ago, POR said:

the scumbags cover all home games and report breaking liverpool news  all the time so getting reports on magic wasn't out of the realms of possibility  bottom line they didn't want to and are using the ban as an excuse to finally get rid of northern working class flatcap sport rugby league

I don't disagree and have said previously that its just an excuse. RL is small enough to ignore, Football isn't. However the game getting less publicity isn't good news and should never be seen as such.

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

Urban dictionary definition fits quite nicely:

In short, a person, or group of persons, who believes something about them make them superior to others, and they feel the need to flaunt it...

It is entirely possible to be an RL fan and buy a certain newspaper.

I think the entire idea that Rugby League should only appeal to, or be open to and compatible with, certain sections of society is certainly elitist. It should be open to all and should be looking to attract all. It is also an attitude that has held the game back throughout its history and is often commonplace on this forum when we talk about expansion, new teams etc.

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Just now, Dave T said:

Urban dictionary definition fits quite nicely:

In short, a person, or group of persons, who believes something about them make them superior to others, and they feel the need to flaunt it...

It is entirely possible to be an RL fan and buy a certain newspaper.

Ahhh Urban Dictionary. The lexicographers handbook. 

Its entirely possible to an RL fan and a massive racist. Its not elitist to say that no true RL fan would be a massive racist. Seeing those two things as incompatible isn't elitist. Its perfectly reasonable to say that the game of Hanley and Sullivan is incompatible with being a massive racist. 

Similarly its not elitist to say that a game borne out of the rebellious spirit of the working class, the game of Hanley and Sullivan and Butt and Roberts and Hirst, a game that prided itself on having a high proportion of female fans when football stadiums where pretty much male only environments would be incompatible with The Sun newspaper. 

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48 minutes ago, Dave T said:

What a load of elitist nonsense.

Quite, I don't quite understand his point, what has which Newspaper you buy have anything to do with whether you are a 'true supporter' and what does that even mean?

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26 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

Is it? Im not sure elitist is the right word but thinking that The Sun newspaper and its behaviour and outlook are incompatible with the game and its history might not be an argument you agree with but its certainly a valid argument to make, rooted in supporting evidence and history. 

Scotchy, I have to say that you argue for the sake of arguing on these boards and often contradict yourself between threads in order to have the last say on any given subject.

In the threads where we discuss the behavior of players you clearly and often state that we should keep players in the sport and provide a 'pathway to redemption' no matter what behavior they demonstrate (including racist and homophobic language).  When I say that we should not tolerate this behavior you say we cannot solve societies ills.

And yet now on this thread you brand the Sun as homophobic and racist and support the idea that this is incompatible with our game.

You cannot have it both ways.

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Seems an obvious case here of the S*n newspaper trying to play one set of people off against another as part of it’s ongoing dispute with Liverpool Football Club who are acting upon the wishes of the families of the Hillsborough victims.

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6 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Scotchy, I have to say that you argue for the sake of arguing on these boards and often contradict yourself between threads in order to have the last say on any given subject.

In the threads where we discuss the behavior of players you clearly and often state that we should keep players in the sport and provide a 'pathway to redemption' no matter what behavior they demonstrate (including racist and homophobic language).  When I say that we should not tolerate this behavior you say we cannot solve societies ills.

And yet now on this thread you brand the Sun as homophobic and racist and support the idea that this is incompatible with our game.

You cannot have it both ways.

The Sun newspaper is not a person. 

People are different to organisations. 

A Nazi can make restitution, be redeemed and rehabilitated. The Nazi Party, not so much. 

This seems obvious. 

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9 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

The Sun newspaper is not a person. 

People are different to organisations. 

A Nazi can make restitution, be redeemed and rehabilitated. The Nazi Party, not so much. 

This seems obvious. 

What's a 'True `Rugby League fan' ?

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22 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

The Sun newspaper is not a person. 

People are different to organisations. 

A Nazi can make restitution, be redeemed and rehabilitated. The Nazi Party, not so much. 

This seems obvious. 

What an utterly spurious argument.

If the sport of Rugby League is going to demonstrate that racism and homophobia is not compatible with its values then it does this by enforcing these within its own sphere of influence... those that play and work within the sport itself.  It does not demonstrate these values by tolerating racism and homophobia within its ranks and then condemning other organisations for acting in the same way.

To suggest that we can tolerate this behavior within our sport and then condemn it elsewhere is hypocritical and disingenuous.

This seems obvious to me.

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