Harry Stottle 2,892 Report post Posted February 16 6 hours ago, winnyason said: Why have twp not looked at gigot? Spent up? The trouble is they would most probably have to get rid of two of their 'average' player's to afford him and if what we are being informed is true that the player's are on inflated saleries there is little chance of that happening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbruce 2,384 Report post Posted February 16 8 hours ago, CanadianRugger said: Top flight Rugby Union clubs generally have around 40+ players on the roster with double and sometimes triple coverage in most positions. Leicester Tigers 1st XV is 47 players atm. Many reasons for this: 1. Multiple Cup Competitions 2. Internationals 3. Regular Season There is no break for international matches in the club season so clubs go without their best players during Six Nations, November Internationals, etc. They need the bodies to be able to fill those spots for 22 rds in the regular season + a minimum 6rds in the Heineken Cup or Euro Challenge Cup + league playoffs. Not forgetting that in RU the front row is a specialist position and players have to be qualified to play there. So clubs will have to carry x number of spare props and hookers in case of injury and the things you’ve listed above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbruce 2,384 Report post Posted February 16 8 hours ago, CanadianRugger said: Top flight Rugby Union clubs generally have around 40+ players on the roster with double and sometimes triple coverage in most positions. Leicester Tigers 1st XV is 47 players atm. Many reasons for this: 1. Multiple Cup Competitions 2. Internationals 3. Regular Season There is no break for international matches in the club season so clubs go without their best players during Six Nations, November Internationals, etc. They need the bodies to be able to fill those spots for 22 rds in the regular season + a minimum 6rds in the Heineken Cup or Euro Challenge Cup + league playoffs. Not forgetting that in RU the front row is a specialist position and players have to be qualified to play there. So clubs will have to carry x number of spare props and hookers in case of injury and the things you’ve listed above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE RED ROOSTER 832 Report post Posted February 16 Similarities between Western Reds and the Toronto Wolfpack with an unsustainable business model and without exchange rate issues... Quote "There is no question that the financial modelling of the Western Reds was flawed," Sackson said. "There’s an argument that arises quite often that the Western Reds failed, so rugby league will fail in the west. "What people have to understand is there are a number of reasons why the Reds eventually folded here. "Firstly, it was an unsustainable business model. There were the inflated player payments during the time of the Super League civil war versus the establishment. That put player payments through the roof. "The Western Reds had to pay for the incoming teams, coming into Perth - they had to pay for flights and accommodation for teams and then they had to fly them home. "We had to field a reserve grade team and fly them out here and home. That added up. It was an extraordinary cost." https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/players-love-the-place-perth-businessman-heads-new-bid-for-nrl-team-in-west-20200212-p5407u.html 1 Quote . Quote The dominant ideas in society are always and everywhere the ideas of the ruling class. And always and everywhere they portray us as stupid, untrustworthy with bad motives. Show us respect sir. We gave you everything progressive there is. We gave you democracy. We demand some too. Eddie Demsey RMT Quote There were 17.4m people who voted to leave the European Union. "Any attempt to try to cast their vote aside, as if they didn’t mean it or didn’t understand the consequences, whereas everybody else did, is a bit of a slur on the individuals who took the time to vote, many of them for the first time Ian Lavery - Labour party chair - 29th March 2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aj1908 953 Report post Posted February 17 13 hours ago, THE RED ROOSTER said: Similarities between Western Reds and the Toronto Wolfpack with an unsustainable business model and without exchange rate issues... https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/players-love-the-place-perth-businessman-heads-new-bid-for-nrl-team-in-west-20200212-p5407u.html toronto dont actually pay these costs out of their pocket do they? air transat do the flights for free. and i think i read they got the accomodation for free. even if the travelling clubs didnt like the sandiwches they got Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hvy wg 1,858 Report post Posted February 18 Or so I'm told Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muckymunksy 103 Report post Posted February 18 Playing for free? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunno much 165 Report post Posted February 18 40 minutes ago, Hvy wg said: Or so I'm told I heard the same thing Heavy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Man of Kent 5,897 Report post Posted February 18 56 minutes ago, Hvy wg said: Or so I'm told He’s not an under-21 Canadian so how does he fit under the cap? Maybe they are swapping/offloading someone else to get Gigot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Futtocks 13,076 Report post Posted February 18 Sources? Quote "Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southerner80 888 Report post Posted February 18 This makes sense as He's a very good utility back and isn't at a club right now. How they will get him on the Cap, I'm not sure, although given he's not at a club now maybe he will sign for the season for a moderate salary? Does anyone think they may move for Escare too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TboneFromTO 730 Report post Posted February 18 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.lindependant.fr/amp/2020/02/18/super-league-tony-gigot-a-toronto,8740606.php&ved=0ahUKEwixv9ST_tvnAhXRQxUIHfhuDbgQyM8BCCgwAA&usg=AOvVaw3T-phe7kd0SoE-NY1rwnQq&cf=1 I was interested so I googled it and that's all I got. How? How much? And who actually says..... Lots of smoke and no fire in this one if you ask me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoubleD 5,076 Report post Posted February 18 Maybe they’ve given up the Chase to get Stanley a new passport 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 4,101 Report post Posted February 18 Could it be a 2 season deal with his salary back loaded to the 2nd season? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeeF 1,569 Report post Posted February 18 1 minute ago, dkw said: Could it be a 2 season deal with his salary back loaded to the 2nd season? The salary cap doesn't let you do that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 4,101 Report post Posted February 18 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LeeF said: The salary cap doesn't let you do that Doesnt it? I'm sure I remember seeing clubs do that before. I think I remember this happening at Wigan when Fielden went there which was possibly under different rules. Edited February 18 by dkw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
my missus 409 Report post Posted February 18 and isn't that why wigan had points deducted because "it wasn't in the spirit of the cap" Quote We zap and maim With the bravery of being out of range We strafe the train With the bravery of being out of range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeeF 1,569 Report post Posted February 18 17 minutes ago, dkw said: Doesnt it? I'm sure I remember seeing clubs do that before. I think I remember this happening at Wigan when Fielden went there which was possibly under different rules. The last time I read the salary cap rules - sometime last year - it basically stopped you backloading a contract. Yes you can have normal year on year increases but not say a 20%/80% split Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 4,101 Report post Posted February 18 12 minutes ago, my missus said: and isn't that why wigan had points deducted because "it wasn't in the spirit of the cap" Yes I think youre right. 1 minute ago, LeeF said: The last time I read the salary cap rules - sometime last year - it basically stopped you backloading a contract. Yes you can have normal year on year increases but not say a 20%/80% split Ooh, they've thought of everything the sods... So basically ignore what I said. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean de Bordeaux 154 Report post Posted February 18 Good thing for him and for RL french team... far better than going to Runion 10 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUBRATS 3,541 Report post Posted February 18 Is it backs they are short of ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longboard 1,450 Report post Posted February 18 Gigot could give the Wolfpack a leg up. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Browny 6,897 Report post Posted February 18 19 minutes ago, longboard said: Gigot could give the Wolfpack a leg up. A lamb in wolf's clothing 1 Quote I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yakstorm 1,238 Report post Posted February 19 It will simply be good to have him back in the game. Whilst he has his issues, on his day he is an exciting player to watch and an important member of the French squad. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kayakman 5,011 Report post Posted February 19 Does a trial count on the cap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
