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11 minutes ago, johnmatrix said:

How many deaths from coronavirus worldwide? 10k? 

What's the panic? do all the basic things we will be fine all this mass hysteria is crazy. 

I'm in the category of those who are vulnerable to severe illness or death if I catch the virus.  What basic things should I be doing? 


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Just now, JohnM said:

I'm in the category of those who are vulnerable to severe illness or death if I catch the virus.  What basic things should I be doing? 

Washing hands etc, plenty of advice out there

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3 minutes ago, johnmatrix said:

Washing hands etc, plenty of advice out there

Maybe I can better explain. What basic things should I be doing? You know, the ones you hinted at in your post.

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3 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Maybe I can better explain. What basic things should I be doing? You know, the ones you hinted at in your post.

You should do what you need to. Quite a bit of basic advice on the web. Have a Google at it

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1 minute ago, johnmatrix said:

You should do what you need to. Quite a bit of basic advice on the web. Have a Google at it

You still clinging to your previous assertion that it's all a media construct?

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17 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I can tell you right now 100% my 92yr old grandparents will not voluntarily quarantine themselves. One of them yesterday told me coronavirus was "total ######", this coming from a woman who swears maybe once every 5 years. 

Exactly , they just aren't going to do it , their youth was spent living through a World War 

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10 minutes ago, johnmatrix said:

The mass hysteria is yes. 

So, can I carry on going to the gym?


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24 minutes ago, M j M said:

I hate to say and I mean this generally not specifically to your family but perhaps a culling of the morons from our society would be a sliver of silver lining. Unfortunately you can't target it with such precision and they'll just infect people who do take precautions.

Don't worry, do feel free to call my grandparents morons, if they go out I'll certainly be calling them worse then locking them in their house and confiscating their keys. 

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4 minutes ago, JohnM said:

So, can I carry on going to the gym?

I dont know, you got time to go today? Probably just do some cardio, lay off the heavy barbell work.

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I'm on a cadiac rehabilitation programme. I have permanent AF and associated congestive heart failure symptoms.  Not allowed weights. Still, you seem happy to suggest actions. 

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2 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I'm on a cadiac rehabilitation programme. No weights. Still, you seem happy to suggest actions. 

so is my missus... she choose not to go to the hospital gym for her cadiac rehabilitation last week.   She is following the home exercise plan but in a more circumvent way.. for want of better words.

No idea if that was right or wrong decision but seemed sensible to me given the pressures that will mount.    At the end of the day we also have to make decisions for ourselves too.

If it was a private gym she would have taken the same decision.

She has a visiting rhythmic heart specialist nurse to discuss things with,,, although I would assume the nurse may well be needed elsewhere as the pressure builds. Never-the-less I have been impressed over the couple of years with the support and specialist availability from across the NHS. 

 

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I think some people will still be saying "it's all a hoax" or "it's blown out of proportion" until someone very close to them ends up in intensive care or dies. Nothing else will get through their skulls.

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48 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I'm in the category of those who are vulnerable to severe illness or death if I catch the virus.  What basic things should I be doing? 

Must admit it is a dilemma for myself and missus as we are in similar boat.

The kids are all badgering us to isolate ourselves, not go out , etc... We went out yesterday for lunch being circumvent about proximity as much as possible... for what "me missus" said may be our last outing.. actually she said "last supper" out but then realised the full context of that comment...(we did chuckle although we realise seriousness of it all).   Anyway the kids have all been on the phone or calling around to tell us off and insist we stay in the house.

Now when you say well how long as this could last months and months and even when we get through the peak we can still catch it so our we talking 1/2 a year, a year... how do you think we could cope with that.... they went silent then...

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9 minutes ago, redjonn said:

so is my missus... she choose not to go to the hospital gym for her cadiac rehabilitation last week.   She is following the home exercise plan but in a more circumvent way.. for want of better words.

No idea if that was right or wrong decision but seemed sensible to me given the pressures that will mount.    At the end of the day we also have to make decisions for ourselves too.

If it was a private gym she would have taken the same decision.

She has a visiting rhythmic heart specialist nurse to discuss things with,,, although I would assume the nurse may well be needed elsewhere as the pressure builds. Never-the-less I have been impressed over the couple of years with the support and specialist availability from across the NHS. 

 

You may find in the next week all those will be moved to video/telephone sessions unless there's specific tests that need to be done in person. Even the cutting of the commutes between places is freeing up a lot of time to deal with more patients.


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One thing I would love to get a view on is those of the older generation, where helping each other out has no been replaced by the 'I'm alright Jack' types. I thought the spivs were meant to be the minority? 

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2 minutes ago, ckn said:

You may find in the next week all those will be moved to video/telephone sessions unless there's specific tests that need to be done in person. Even the cutting of the commutes between places is freeing up a lot of time to deal with more patients.

Understandable regards video/telephone although I would also expect even that would be cut down too.  

funny enough we have been learning to use video calls last day or so with the children... using Skype or facetime on the ipads... 

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5 minutes ago, getdownmonkeyman said:

One thing I would love to get a view on is those of the older generation, where helping each other out has no been replaced by the 'I'm alright Jack' types. I thought the spivs were meant to be the minority? 

mmmm always difficult to assess but we always think a lot of people seem very self centred nowadays.

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5 minutes ago, ckn said:

I think some people will still be saying "it's all a hoax" or "it's blown out of proportion" until someone very close to them ends up in intensive care or dies. Nothing else will get through their skulls.

Yep. I'm sick of reading people online telling people to stop being fannies. 

The problem is, this isn't just the virus and getting ill for themselves that people are worrying about. It is their families, their neighbours and friends, it is not being able to get supplies. It is the thought of isolation. It is the idea of not getting wages, or their business going bust. It is losing money on holidays. It is not being able to see their elderly family. 

This is already impacting our lives, and it will get far worse before it gets better. 

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1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

What's happening in the benidorm video? Can't get it to play on my tablet. 

It’s basically a van with a loudspeaker telling people in Spanish and English that there is a lockdown and to remain indoors.


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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18 minutes ago, ckn said:

I think some people will still be saying "it's all a hoax" or "it's blown out of proportion" until someone very close to them ends up in intensive care or dies. Nothing else will get through their skulls.

I know people aged 70 plus who think like that.  They are about to get a big dose of reality.

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My mother in law is 69 and is in a vulnerable group. Already in her town in England there have been a few cases in local schools.

She’s now worried it’s most likely that there are now children running around town who have it but have zero symptoms. She’s very stressed.

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24 minutes ago, Copa said:

I know people aged 70 plus who think like that.  They are about to get a big dose of reality.

the mere fact that everyone over 70 is classed as the same is insulting and ignorant to say the least


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1 hour ago, johnmatrix said:

You should do what you need to. Quite a bit of basic advice on the web. Have a Google at it

Hmmm. You do realise that is part of the problem. Panic Googling has resulted in huge shortages of network capacity so we are now being limited to 2 searches per hour. 

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10 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

the mere fact that everyone over 70 is classed as the same is insulting and ignorant to say the least

Oh dear.

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