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Just now, dixiedean said:

And, by way of contrast, if every SL player was melded up to some sort of infallible mind scan as to whether they had had thoughts of a same sex nature.

I guarantee they wouldn't be alone.

Absolutely 

So therefore the problem isn't that he's homophobic 

The problem is he's been too open about it 

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1 minute ago, aj1908 said:

Yes he will.be booed 

This adds to the drama of.the league 

 

We have a world class athlete with a strong Christian belief , people are entitled to their beliefs; to some he’s wrong to others his quotes are correct

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1 minute ago, iangidds said:

We have a world class athlete with a strong Christian belief , people are entitled to their beliefs; to some he’s wrong to others his quotes are correct

To me he's a good rugby player who loves money and is a dope.

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3 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

Yes he will.be booed 

This adds to the drama of.the league 

 

It will last 2 minutes and all will be forgotten.

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Just now, aj1908 said:

To me he's a good rugby player who loves money and is a dope.

People said the same about SBW , he is admired across both codes now despite his past indiscretions 

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1 minute ago, aj1908 said:

Absolutely 

So therefore the problem isn't that he's homophobic 

The problem is he's been too open about it 

I see that you, at least, catch the nuance here. 

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Just now, iangidds said:

People said the same about SBW , he is admired across both codes now despite his past indiscretions 

I said the same about sbw earlier in the thread 

I also suspect as devout Muslim he shares very similar beliefs as mr folau 

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Just now, dixiedean said:

I see that you, at least, catch the nuance here. 

People are scared stiff of expressing their opinions today 

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2 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

To me he's a good rugby player who loves money and is a dope.

Compare and contrast SBW. Falls into the same categories. Except for the dope.

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Just now, aj1908 said:

I said the same about sbw earlier in the thread 

I also suspect as devout Muslim he shares very similar beliefs as mr folau 

I’m sure you could be right , I think when you believe in something so much you want to shout it from the rooftops; many believe in some or all that he quoted from the bible ; he probably feels compelled to spread the word of god .

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2 minutes ago, dixiedean said:

Compare and contrast SBW. Falls into the same categories. Except for the dope.

Lol yes.

Money Bill williams certainly knows how to make it rain dollars 

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1 minute ago, iangidds said:

I’m sure you could be right , I think when you believe in something so much you want to shout it from the rooftops; many believe in some or all that he quoted from the bible ; he probably feels compelled to spread the word of god .

Sbw probably feels the same about his religion 

But he knows if he copied folau he would be similarly vilified 

Imo folau is being  very naive 

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Just now, aj1908 said:

Sbw probably feels the same about his religion 

But he knows if he copied folau he would be similarly vilified 

Imo folau is being  very naive 

Or maybe very honest , sometimes you have to be prepared to stand up for what you believe in

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Just now, iangidds said:

Or maybe very honest , sometimes you have to be prepared to stand up for what you believe in

He's a rugby player.not a preacher 

The way he's going he won't be a rugby player for much longer if he doesn't stop

Catalans have covered themselves with his social media usage.  If he repeats it's an immediate sacking 

Plus they get a big fine too 

I don't know if he should be allowed to keep repeating these comments whilst he plays rugby bc it is very damaging to the sport and his club 

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6 minutes ago, iangidds said:

I’m sure you could be right , I think when you believe in something so much you want to shout it from the rooftops; many believe in some or all that he quoted from the bible ; he probably feels compelled to spread the word of god .

Yes if your Gay these days it’s the norm to proclaim the fact. 

Yet if challenged? It’s incorrect.
 

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7 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

He's a rugby player.not a preacher 

The way he's going he won't be a rugby player for much longer if he doesn't stop

Catalans have covered themselves with his social media usage.  If he repeats it's an immediate sacking 

Plus they get a big fine too 

I don't know if he should be allowed to keep repeating these comments whilst he plays rugby bc it is very damaging to the sport and his club 

What's wrong with being both?

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9 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

Lol yes.

Money Bill williams certainly knows how to make it rain dollars 

Yes but there is skilful means. He has refused to wear gambling sponsorship. He did so quite reasonably, and didn't accompany it with a declaration that everyone who did was off to Hell. In many ways he is a good model for his religion. Makes a stand, and a point, without demanding or condemning others. Perhaps that is why the money flows?

Who am I to guess what he thinks?

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12 minutes ago, iangidds said:

Or maybe very honest , sometimes you have to be prepared to stand up for what you believe in

He played in the NRL.  Built on slot machines. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, SL17 said:

Yes if your Gay these days it’s the norm to proclaim the fact. 

Yet if challenged? It’s incorrect.
 

Is it really?

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2 minutes ago, dixiedean said:

Yes but there is skilful means. He has refused to wear gambling sponsorship. He did so quite reasonably, and didn't accompany it with a declaration that everyone who did was off to Hell. In many ways he is a good model for his religion. Makes a stand, and a point, without demanding or condemning others. Perhaps that is why the money flows?

Who am I to guess what he thinks?

Id love for someone to ask him a direct question on how he feels about gays.

That would be most interesting 

But yes sbw is way more media savvy than folau 

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5 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

Id love for someone to ask him a direct question on how he feels about gays.

That would be most interesting 

But yes sbw is way more media savvy than folau 

That would be improper question and should simply be answered with, "No Comment'.

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4 minutes ago, dixiedean said:

Yes but there is skilful means. He has refused to wear gambling sponsorship. He did so quite reasonably, and didn't accompany it with a declaration that everyone who did was off to Hell. In many ways he is a good model for his religion. Makes a stand, and a point, without demanding or condemning others. Perhaps that is why the money flows?

Who am I to guess what he thinks?

He took his wage knowing it was coming from slot machines. Now his bank account is full of betting debts, he wants to turn a new leaf,

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1 minute ago, aj1908 said:

If love for someone to ask him a direct question on how he feels about gays.

That would be most interesting 

If he has Love the sinner hate the sin as his mantra, then that would be fine with me. If anyone religious uses their faith to help others and deeply reflect on their failings and resolve to improve as a human being as a mantra then I am OK with it. Whatever faith.

If they use their faith to belittle, intimidate, bully, condemn or incite violence against anyone else then that is not OK with me.

 

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5 minutes ago, SL17 said:

He took his wage knowing it was coming from slot machines. Now his bank account is full of betting debts, he wants to turn a new leaf,

Yes, but, he wasn't always a muslim. Turning over a new leaf is the very essence of conversion to any faith.

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