JonM Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, flyingking said: 12th team is Chisinau Scorpions, so the first rugby league team in Moldova. This could present a problem if they are drawn away to either of the British clubs as people from Moldova require a visa to come to the UK There was a team from Tiraspol which competed in the Russian league in the 1990s and in fact were Soviet champions one year, although they were from Transnistria, a part of Moldova which declared independence in the late 90s, albeit not recognised by most other countries. Neil Tunnicliffe & Tom O'Donovan had a trip there in the 1990s and wrote a chapter about it in Dave Hadfield's XIII Worlds book. Moldova played in the 1995 Emerging Nations World Cup - beat Morocco (at Northampton) and lost to Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Impartial Observer said: I am not anti this competition, I am being realist. How I am being patronising? By doubting that administrators have had the wit to consider whether or not they’ll be able to play the game(s) in a competition that they’ve entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugby&soccerfan Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 This potentially sounds like an exciting prospect always remember when the Challenge Cup started to open up to Russian sides along with the French teams At the peak of uts growth in the early 2'000s i know Dutch sides where linked always thought a European division could of been added to the once successful Summer Conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrushersForever Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The Dublin Blues gear for sale has started with a couple of retro shirts... one good and one not so good... https://www.xilesport.com/collections/dublin-blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial Observer Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, Eddie said: By doubting that administrators have had the wit to consider whether or not they’ll be able to play the game(s) in a competition that they’ve entered. Some of the ones I have come across are excellent but others not so good. Anyway time will tell on all of this and I will reiterate I would like to see this as a success. Did I read at the time of the game against Fev Rovers that Valencia did not have enough players so borrowed some from Salford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, flyingking said: 12th team is Chisinau Scorpions, so the first rugby league team in Moldova. This could present a problem if they are drawn away to either of the British clubs as people from Moldova require a visa to come to the UK Maybe they won't be drawn away. Someone on here made a reference to seeding ( in a Cup? ) My previous reference to Tom Keaveny's car boot springs to mind , as well as the competition invite asking if clubs had preference for home / away games.. When Moldova / Russia came to play in England almost 30 years ago the majority of their players were penniless and brought loads of Russian Dolls to sell to make some hard currency. . Bought 3 of them myself for my then young daughters...…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Impartial Observer said: Some of the ones I have come across are excellent but others not so good. Anyway time will tell on all of this and I will reiterate I would like to see this as a success. Did I read at the time of the game against Fev Rovers that Valencia did not have enough players so borrowed some from Salford? Valencia 'dual registered ' a number of Salford academy players to make up their side. They lost to Featherstone by over100 points this January in their first ever match Since then according to Euro X111 releases they have been scouting Spain and expect to have 500 + players rugby league ready for the game …..……... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, scotchy1 said: I dont think any of those straw men. I'm just highlighting your idea that taking government funding would be usurping the RLEF position and so it shouldn't be taken. Please point me to any other example of a sporting league being given "government funding" without being officially recognised. Birmingham Jaguars won't be getting sport England funding will they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Impartial Observer said: If I was organising a comp I would be getting teams established teams to play in, not ones who have never played a game and haven't played for several seasons. I feel sorry for clubs who they are putting up money to enter and to host draft players as I can see if this ever gets that far a number of games not being played in the 1st round. I think harks back to the lack of clear direction and aims with this competition. All things to all men etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Impartial Observer said: Some of the ones I have come across are excellent but others not so good. Anyway time will tell on all of this and I will reiterate I would like to see this as a success. Did I read at the time of the game against Fev Rovers that Valencia did not have enough players so borrowed some from Salford? The match ended up being 12 vs 11. Not an auspicious start for Valencia and their only game to date. Prior to that I had assumed they were an established side who had ambitions outside of the Spanish domestic league but they have never played a domestic match. This is a development league so I hope they will be bringing in mostly local Spanish players rather than paying players to come from England or France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 It might succeed and grow or only run for a season or two. If it raised awareness in some of the town's and cities or encouraged 1 or 2 more domestic clubs to set up in some of the countries then it will have had a positive effect on the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 5 hours ago, JonM said: There was a team from Tiraspol which competed in the Russian league in the 1990s and in fact were Soviet champions one year, although they were from Transnistria, a part of Moldova which declared independence in the late 90s, albeit not recognised by most other countries. Neil Tunnicliffe & Tom O'Donovan had a trip there in the 1990s and wrote a chapter about it in Dave Hadfield's XIII Worlds book. Moldova played in the 1995 Emerging Nations World Cup - beat Morocco (at Northampton) and lost to Ireland. Transnistria is a blast go there with 100 $ and you can live like a king for a week:) We should 100% be looking at Belarus for future development, Minsk is a fab place great bars restaurants and the people are wonderful my wife has a couple of radio stations based there so we get to go quite a bit would love to see it develop into a true RL country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Latest RLEF release to members ( 23/6 2020 ) makes interesting reading. Met with a total brick wall from Euro X111 organisers regarding what they believe to be important info about it all. RLEF cannot recommend involvement at this stage. Google RLEF and Euro X111 to read it unless someone on here can put in a link. Yanto may be right. It looks like yet another breakaway ( just what the game needs - do we ever learn ? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Transnistria is a blast go there with 100 $ and you can live like a king for a week:) We should 100% be looking at Belarus for future development That's two of the three countries in Europe that I've never been to (if Transnistria counts as a proper country). I've been to the Belarus border, but you had to bribe the border guards at the time to let you in - and I wasn't sure how much they'd want to let me out again afterwards There was a 9's tournament in Belarus last year, with teams of Belarus, Ukraine & Russia IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Transnistria is a blast go there with 100 $ and you can live like a king for a week:) We should 100% be looking at Belarus for future development, Minsk is a fab place great bars restaurants and the people are wonderful my wife has a couple of radio stations based there so we get to go quite a bit would love to see it develop into a true RL country. Went to Minsk in 2003, so it may have changed since then but I can remember there were almost as many police as normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Eddie said: Went to Minsk in 2003, so it may have changed since then but I can remember there were almost as many police as normal people. I have been 5/6 times in the last year hardly see any police now however the election is soon and looks like its curtains for the lunatic president:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, JonM said: That's two of the three countries in Europe that I've never been to (if Transnistria counts as a proper country). I've been to the Belarus border, but you had to bribe the border guards at the time to let you in - and I wasn't sure how much they'd want to let me out again afterwards There was a 9's tournament in Belarus last year, with teams of Belarus, Ukraine & Russia IIRC. You don't need a visa now on a direct flight, Minsk is the home of many software companies and has its own hipster culture going to be an interesting few weeks as the presidents popularity is around 3% and if he rigs the election which is likely it will explode. Most young people want to be in the EU. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: You don't need a visa now on a direct flight, Minsk is the home of many software companies and has its own hipster culture going to be an interesting few weeks as the presidents popularity is around 3% and if he rigs the election which is likely it will explode. Most young people want to be in the EU. Paul Have you been to Brest and if so what did you think of the place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: Have you been to Brest and if so what did you think of the place? Had a stop off there in-between Warsaw and Minsk, was a fair few years ago but well worth a night or two I’d say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Eddie said: Had a stop off there in-between Warsaw and Minsk, was a fair few years ago but well worth a night or two I’d say. Cheers, pre-Covid I was flying to Warsaw for a few days next month and had a mini-side trip there in mind via train on the local "free" tourist Visa scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrogateKnights Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 7 hours ago, CrushersForever said: The Dublin Blues gear for sale has started with a couple of retro shirts... one good and one not so good... https://www.xilesport.com/collections/dublin-blues The quality range of Xile is great if you are prepared to wait although I appreciate they are shipping from ROI and have alot of teams under their banner too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Whippet13 said: Have you been to Brest and if so what did you think of the place? No only Minsk and a couple of nights last time in Osha Bald and Bankrupt on YouTube is the one for great Belarus videos:) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 A bit more info about the Chisinau Scorpions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanto Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Love the video.. Lots of " oppertunites of the devolping the game in the country as well as providing coaching oppertunities and referee oppertunities" Great comments . But excuse me where has Moldova been when the RLEF has been providing these same oppertunities over the last 20 years due to Erasmus grants funded by the EU and secured by the RLEF ? So now the Euro XIII are promising ,by the guys talk in the video,to also provide funding to develop coaches and referees. AMAZING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, yanto said: Love the video.. Lots of " oppertunites of the devolping the game in the country as well as providing coaching oppertunities and referee oppertunities" Great comments . But excuse me where has Moldova been when the RLEF has been providing these same oppertunities over the last 20 years due to Erasmus grants funded by the EU and secured by the RLEF ? So now the Euro XIII are promising ,by the guys talk in the video,to also provide funding to develop coaches and referees. AMAZING Most likely the RLEF had criteria for taking advantage of those opportunities and grants and maybe the Moldovans didn't qualify. Then along comes this Euro XIII outfit willing to take the first 8, 16 or whatever the number is who'll say yes to them and worry about the details later. That doesn't sound like a recipe for success does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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