Yorkshire v The Rest of Britain?

[Griff 318]

15 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:

It would be pointless. Lancashire is a joke county nowadays. What is it anyway - Bolton and Blackburn or something? The big cities of Liverpool and Manchester don't want anything to do with them. At least Yorkshire is a proper county with some proper big cities.

Lancashire is the county that everyone wants to leave and pretend they live in Cumbria or Cheshire.

Only one city in Yorkshire doesn't have a Rugby League club.

Only one city in the proper, Millom to Mersey, Lancashire has one.

[Griff 318]

53 minutes ago, The British Lion said:

Im from Warrington, which apparently is as Lancashire town, but my postal address says Cheshire. I have no affinity with Lancashire, or want to support a team called Lancashire.

Ach - what have I just said ?

[Bleep1673 1,555]

16 hours ago, Welsh RL & RU watcher said:

I'm probably not the biggest fan of international sport on here, and I've said in the past that there shouldn't be a RLWC, or an Olympics come to that. Have an Ashes Series and a Kangaroos v Kiwis Series, yes. How about a 3 Match Series of Yorkshire v The Rest of Britain? 

Yorkshire v Rest of Britain/The World is a mentality that is normal in Yorkshire.

[iffleyox 625]

1 hour ago, The British Lion said:

Im from Warrington, which apparently is as Lancashire town, but my postal address says Cheshire. I have no affinity with Lancashire, or want to support a team called Lancashire.

Ah, this is why the Hundred is for you! If you're from the NW and have no affinity with Lancashire, the ECB has cracked how to make it relevant to you. Get yourself over to watch the Manchester Originals.

[Bleep1673 1,555]

1 minute ago, iffleyox said:

Ah, this is why the Hundred is for you! If you're from the NW and have no affinity with Lancashire, the ECB has cracked how to make it relevant to you. Get yourself over to watch the Manchester Originals.

I was born in Salford, Lancashire. Lancashire CCC still play most of it's games in Greater Manchester or Merseyside

[Sir Kevin Sinfield 1,565]

England didn’t play a game in 2019 and won’t play a game in 2020, why do we want to introduce another layer at representation level when the top of the pile never play. We need England to play games.

[Liverpool Rover 504]

If Yorkshire v Lancashire was brought back it would soon die a death as would Yorkshire v Rest of Britain or any other game of that nature. There isn’t enough interest amongst fans.

[Blind side johnny 5,933]

2 hours ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

No, there's a distinction between a tea cake,  what mancs call a barm cake and pie eaters call a flour cake, and a muffin. A muffin is flatter and has a ring around it. The best muffins ever, seem local to oldham only, are declerq muffins.

Just wrong on so many counts. In Machester a barm cake, muffin, teacake and currant teacake are all distinctive and different. When I was a lad you could buy each of them from the same bread shops.

[The British Lion 247]

1 hour ago, iffleyox said:

Ah, this is why the Hundred is for you! If you're from the NW and have no affinity with Lancashire, the ECB has cracked how to make it relevant to you. Get yourself over to watch the Manchester Originals

Cricket just doesn't take my interest. Fair play to them though.

[yipyee 849]

17 hours ago, Eddie said:

I’d rather see a county of origin Lancs v Yorks game personally, if it was taken seriously. 

You wouldn't be able to get a professional team of lancashiremen together, it would be a whitewash to yorkshire

[Eddie 2,543]

Just now, yipyee said:

You wouldn't be able to get a professional team of lancashiremen together, it would be a whitewash to yorkshire

Historic counties, obviously. 

[Harry Stottle 3,401]

1 hour ago, Blind side johnny said:

Just wrong on so many counts. In Machester a barm cake, muffin, teacake and currant teacake are all distinctive and different. When I was a lad you could buy each of them from the same bread shops.

At last a sensible answer.

 But that was a long way to go for you just to go to bread shop, or did you emigrate o'er t'hill?

Edited June 4 by Harry Stottle

[yipyee 849]

1 hour ago, Bleep1673 said:

I was born in Salford, Lancashire. Lancashire CCC still play most of it's games in Greater Manchester or Merseyside

But for several generations after you they wasn't born in Lancashire and don't have an affinity to Lancashire. Liverpool is the same. 

IMO Lancashire was split up as we genuinely could have split off the be a seperate wealthy country. Divide and conquer has certainly worked

[yipyee 849]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

Historic counties, obviously. 

Then what's the point. Lancashire is no longer what it was and people do not have a loyalty to Lancashire.

In Merseyside alone you have Liverpool; wools, and them from over the water. None under the age of 50 will ever refer to themselves as Lancastrians

 

[The Art of Hand and Foot 852]

1 hour ago, Blind side johnny said:

Just wrong on so many counts. In Machester a barm cake, muffin, teacake and currant teacake are all distinctive and different. When I was a lad you could buy each of them from the same bread shops.

Quack quack oops, wrong. In Manchester a tea cake is what I would call a current Tea cake.  To them a barm cake is what I would call a tea cake. Worked there in the centre for most of my life. 

[Bleep1673 1,555]

3 minutes ago, yipyee said:

But for several generations after you they wasn't born in Lancashire and don't have an affinity to Lancashire. Liverpool is the same. 

IMO Lancashire was split up as we genuinely could have split off the be a seperate wealthy country. Divide and conquer has certainly worked

As the Maternity Unit in Salford closed about 15 years ago, nobody will be born there, unless they have a home birth, then they will have to register in Manchester, as it is their midwifery services.

[Eddie 2,543]

8 minutes ago, yipyee said:

You wouldn't be able to get a professional team of lancashiremen together, it would be a whitewash to yorkshire

Double post. 

Edited June 4 by Eddie

[Bleep1673 1,555]

4 minutes ago, yipyee said:

But for several generations after you they wasn't born in Lancashire and don't have an affinity to Lancashire. Liverpool is the same. 

And I will have less of the "Several Generations" remark thank you, I am not that old

[Harry Stottle 3,401]

8 minutes ago, yipyee said:

You wouldn't be able to get a professional team of lancashiremen together, it would be a whitewash to yorkshire

But you have to let player's in born and bred from towns that have won the professional version of the Lancashire cup just to keep up the tradition, just the same as those from the County of Yorkshire clubs not North, South, East & West Yorkshire.

[Harry Stottle 3,401]

8 minutes ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

Quack quack oops, wrong. In Manchester a tea cake is what I would call a current Tea cake.  To them a barm cake is what I would call a tea cake. Worked there in the centre for most of my life. 

Oh No It Isn't..............

[Clogiron 1,948]

17 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

What are they when there at home! Looks like the Mice have been at them!

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4 hours ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

No, there's a distinction between a tea cake,  what mancs call a barm cake and pie eaters call a flour cake, and a muffin. A muffin is flatter and has a ring around it. The best muffins ever, seem local to oldham only, are declerq muffins.

Yes and try going down south and asking for a "oven bottomed" one ! 

[Eddie 2,543]

31 minutes ago, yipyee said:

Then what's the point. Lancashire is no longer what it was and people do not have a loyalty to Lancashire.

In Merseyside alone you have Liverpool; wools, and them from over the water. None under the age of 50 will ever refer to themselves as Lancastrians

 

What if Merseyside had been called West Lancashire and Greater Mcr called East Lancashire instead, with the rest called North Lancashire?  Or what if West and South York’s had been called different things, eg Donside and Greater Leeds? 

[17 stone giant 1,276]

West vs East?

[Griff 318]

There are actually three types of counties.  Just to complicate things.

There are proper, geographical counties. Pretty much unchanged since before the Norman Conquest.  Still exist now, despite parts of Yorkshire being under the jackboot of occupation by the likes of Durham, Cumbria (whatever that is), Lancashire and Greater Manchester.

Then there are these 1974 councils which, despite the signs you keep seeing, put up by pompous, self important councillors in the 1970s, are nothing more than letting you know which council to complain to when your bin's not been emptied.  All a bit random these days.  West Yorkshire, for example, was only around for about ten minutes before the council was abolished and the responsibilities split up between the districts.

And there are Ceremonial Counties which have a Lord Lieutenant who shows the Queen round when she visits.  Not the same boundaries as either of the other two types.

I blame Royal Mail.  Middlesex was absorbed into Greater London in 1952 but I didn't see it disappearing from postal addresses.  No idea why they made all these changes in 1974.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_England

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