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1 minute ago, RP London said:

3. Yes it will but in 2021 we have nothing to compete with.. the olympics will have been over by 2-3 months.. the premier league season and autumn internationals will be on (they are every year so we cannot avoid them) but this is a major tournament so can cut through that.. it cannot and will not cut through anywhere near a football world cup.. to say otherwise is frankly idiotic.

That's certainly true. Anyone who thinks because the RLWC would be virtually over by the time the football WC starts hasn't really understand the scale of the buildup to the WC. England's warm up friendlies, coverage of injury scares and selection dilemmas will dominate the two months prior to the start rugby league will not get a look in. 2021 is a golden opportunity and I think you've got to try and move heaven and earth to get the Australians to change their minds even if it means paying up. 

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I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks.

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Just now, DI Keith Fowler said:

That's certainly true. Anyone who thinks because the RLWC would be virtually over by the time the football WC starts hasn't really understand the scale of the buildup to the WC. England's warm up friendlies, coverage of injury scares and selection dilemmas will dominate the two months prior to the start rugby league will not get a look in. 2021 is a golden opportunity and I think you've got to try and move heaven and earth to get the Australians to change their minds even if it means paying up. 

The only thing that will change this is player power.

Interested to hear what their view is - if they'd rather have an extra couple of weeks pre-season than play in a World Cup then the game is doomed anyway.

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Just now, DI Keith Fowler said:

That's certainly true. Anyone who thinks because the RLWC would be virtually over by the time the football WC starts hasn't really understand the scale of the buildup to the WC. England's warm up friendlies, coverage of injury scares and selection dilemmas will dominate the two months prior to the start rugby league will not get a look in. 2021 is a golden opportunity and I think you've got to try and move heaven and earth to get the Australians to change their minds even if it means paying up. 

Not sure I agree with that Keith. Nobody really cares about the friendlies and a proper World Cup (albeit in a different sport) to warm people up for the main event may be a good publicity boost? 

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2 hours ago, Jim from Oz said:

I should be angry but I just haven't got the energy … after 46 years of lavish devotion to the game since age 11, I think this time it's defeated me for good. 

This "decision" by Peter V'landys is a complete and utter disaster for the game. Maybe I'll write a polite but firm email to him and the ARLC … but I'm just too over it all to do it now.

He's slowly ruining the game!

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1 minute ago, RP London said:

i dont know how to split quote anymore so:

1. the whole point of saying "you dont need to look very hard" is that you dont need to look at all (but you know this because your not an idiot, your just trying to make a point by being funny)... its had national coverage for major announcements and events on major channels and papers. 

2. not sure what i've listed that you have an issue with.. of course its my opinion thats why its prefaced by "i think" however it is based on 43 years of experience of seeing what happens around major football tournaments. 

3. Yes it will but in 2021 we have nothing to compete with.. the olympics will have been over by 2-3 months.. the premier league season and autumn internationals will be on (they are every year so we cannot avoid them) but this is a major tournament so can cut through that.. it cannot and will not cut through anywhere near a football world cup.. to say otherwise is frankly idiotic.

4. yes you are right.. and the solution is to stick 2 fingers up and move on with 2021.. going to 2022 could be more damaging than carrying on with it this.. (and for you to argue that is just your opinion too.. )

Im not trying to be funny about anything here. If theres been regular national coverage in the wider press then i'll take your word for it. Beyond a few news reports on the BBC news i haven't seen it. but like i say I'll take your word for it.

In my opinion i don't think we'll get any more major cut through going up against the PL and Union Autumn internationals. Even with a RLWC. We can disagree on that one.

On your last point, its sadly not going to be as black and white as going ahead without Aus and NZ. It will be going ahead without any Australian based players playing in the NRL or aligned with NRL clubs. As much as I would like to stick up two fingers and go ahead, it would be a financial disaster to go ahead in 2021 without those players.

We've already had people on here saying they wont attend games if Aus and NZ aren't there and there could quite likely be many more of that opinion. And of course those who only need the slightest reason to take a negative view of things will do.

There could of course still be more to come from this. Things could change.

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I'm actually devastated. Picked up 8 tickets to the Ireland vs Jamaica game, accommodation booked and was looking forward to introducing the game to 7 newbies from London and Belfast. After the challenge cup final a few others also wanted to get involved.

I just don't get how the other lot can have the autumn internationals, the cricketers on months long tours and we can't even persuade some Aussie's to come over here for 6 weeks.

 

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17 minutes ago, Eddie said:

That’s a shame, wouldn’t you even go to see France v England in the European Final if it was at Bramall Lane, or even Sandygate Road? 

nope.. not even if they paid me right now... stuff them, international RL is a waste if this is the attitude. 

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I've a feeling this coventry is the returning muppet who got banned a few days ago so probably best just to ignore him, he`s just trying to spoil the thread same as he did previously.

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I would urge everyone to make their views known to the NRL and Australian media. I think for the good of the game we have to make our views known. A lot of these outlets push the NRL party line but it is quite revealing looking at the comments that many Australians so seem as **** off as us in the UK.

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2 minutes ago, SouthLondonRL said:

I'm actually devastated. Picked up 8 tickets to the Ireland vs Jamaica game, accommodation booked and was looking forward to introducing the game to 7 newbies from London and Belfast. After the challenge cup final a few others also wanted to get involved.

I just don't get how the other lot can have the autumn internationals, the cricketers on months long tours and we can't even persuade some Aussie's to come over here for 6 weeks.

 

Because the other lot an Cricketers give a damn about the game outside of their own insular little pathetic bubble, whereas the NRL care about the NRL and thats it.

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i dont agree with NZ & Australia administrators withdrawing from the world Cup, but I understand it is very tough on players from NZ & Aus to attend the Cup. NZ based players from NZ warriors for example haven't been back to NZ all season to see extended family and friends and another 6 week tournament plus 2 weeks in quarantine is a lot to ask, i can understand that is just to much to ask for some. Anyway I had part of my last post removed due to covid content when the whole reason for Australian and New Zealand is not attending the Wold cup is due to Covid. As a result of this censorship, I wont be posting in this site again, all the best to you all, bye.

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I’d really like to hear from players on this , as there’s been a paternalistic decision based on behalf of all of them . I still think a lot would choose to play in the World Cup , maybe the only chance they’d get . If they were given the choice . I’d like to hear from Big Mal as well . I wonder how much consultation was had , or it was just we know what’s best . I hope some people put their head above the parapet and give a contrary view

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6 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Interesting reading the reaction on some of the Aussie press twitter feeds, it's not positive towards the PVL and the ARL, could there be a bit of a backlash of some sorts?

lets hope so.

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1 hour ago, DavidM said:

Why is it completely different . The organisers will have been bending over backwards to make it as secure and safe as possible and reassure them as much as they can . Nothing is risk free , there are cases inside many bubbles in sport , but like other events what could be done would be done … but the NRL side just aren’t willing to see beyond self interest 

Why is it completely different?

Excuse me, I must have missed the part where the RLWC was going replicate the Olympics by hosting all fixtures with no crowds and house the players and officials inside a bio secure athletes village.

The organisers may have done an admiral job in making the RLWC as safe as possible for the players. Unfortunately, the organisers do not have access to the same resources as the Euros or Olympics do to ensure the safety of participants, officials and fans.

Have the Olympic athletes and Participants in Euro been under the same arduous restrictions as NRL players have the last 16 months?

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Reading comments on Twitter under the announcement, it seems pretty split. Some saying that players shouldn’t be expected to bubble again after being away from home for so long and others saying it’s wrong. 

It seems a premature decision given it appears players were not consulted. 

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bring on rebel teams.. this could get quite interesting.. 

7 minutes ago, RP London said:

nope.. not even if they paid me right now... stuff them, international RL is a waste if this is the attitude. 

going back to my answer to this... 

IF the players really start to shout and a lot of noise is made to make the ARL etc see sense then my view would change as there is hope.. Right now though there is no hope with the attitude of the governing body.. 

I dont think this is over

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5 minutes ago, dkw said:

I've a feeling this coventry is the returning muppet who got banned a few days ago so probably best just to ignore him, he`s just trying to spoil the thread same as he did previously.

This troll has now been banned and all their posts (and replies to those posts) have been removed from this thread.

Also, remember that if you want to discuss vaccination efficacy or policy decisions relating to vaccine rollout, do that in the politcs sub forum, not in here, or your posts will be removed.

This is a difficult topic, and emotions are running high on all sides, please help me as the moderator to keep it open and available for people to express their views, without dragging it off on a million different tangents, or allowing it to descend into a general slanging match.

Thank you.

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Just now, Hela Wigmen said:

Reading comments on Twitter under the announcement, it seems pretty split. Some saying that players shouldn’t be expected to bubble again after being away from home for so long and others saying it’s wrong. 

It seems a premature decision given it appears players were not consulted. 

i would agree they shouldnt be "expected to" and they may not need to either if everything goes to plan (and this spike was part of the "plan") but they may feel they ought to to be sure.. however, no player should be forced to and should not be punished for saying no if they felt they could not.. however, to unilaterally pull out is wrong.

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1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said:

Reading comments on Twitter under the announcement, it seems pretty split. Some saying that players shouldn’t be expected to bubble again after being away from home for so long and others saying it’s wrong. 

It seems a premature decision given it appears players were not consulted. 

The players should have had the chance to make the decision themselves.

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