Tommygilf Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 There are two weeks isolation required currently for (re)entry to Australia and New Zealand. The question here entirely is "who pays", both in terms of time and money. The Clubs and NRL are digging their heels in, the RLWC is not their competition they shouldn't be forced to give EXTRA time off to players to isolate for a competition that isn't theirs. The ARLC and NZRL are unwilling to foot the bill either, especially considering the actual difference between the former and the NRL is negligible at best these days. The RLPA will naturally not want its members to have to give up holiday time to their employers for rep games. What the statement from the two NGBs effectively means is that if the players go, and have to isolate on their return, its not on the NGBs. They are washing their hands of this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 9 minutes ago, Mark S said: Maybe this is all a ruse to generate some publicity, and the Aussies will come over after all. This morning alone the tournament has properly received PR that would be worth millions. I live in hope that it is!! As long as it isn’t to leverage more money out of the organising committee, yes a stroke of genius. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnoco Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Well I didn’t actually think they wouldn’t come, nor NZ. There is no other word for it than disaster - RL in the NH may never recover. And were it all genuinely down to Covid then not many people would blame them. But it’s just a handy excuse. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Just now, Gerrumonside ref said: Anyone else think the swear filter should be removed on this one thread for just this one occasion? We need to vent! Agreed @ckn - take note 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 11 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Olympics and Euros are completely different tournaments that have their own challenges and deemed to have overcome them. Those events proceeding and the measures undertaken to have them proceed will be unique to those tournaments and completely different to the measures required (and the financial ability) for the RLWC. There have been more tournaments than those two, they are just the big ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 13 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Huge difference. Work it out for yourself. You are talking rubbish. Large numbers of UK people have been making sacrifices for the Olympics. Far and away the majority of the public have been vaccinated and are safe. Overwhelmingly we have antibodies and we are getting a booster. Our govt is doing the right thing and it did it promptly... i ignore the prejudiced opposition. Is Australia having to stay in regular lockdowns. They cannot stop this thing getting in. It's all to do with corrupt Australian politics. . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: There are two weeks isolation required currently for (re)entry to Australia and New Zealand. The question here entirely is "who pays", both in terms of time and money. The Clubs and NRL are digging their heels in, the RLWC is not their competition they shouldn't be forced to give EXTRA time off to players to isolate for a competition that isn't theirs. The ARLC and NZRL are unwilling to foot the bill either, especially considering the actual difference between the former and the NRL is negligible at best these days. The RLPA will naturally not want its members to have to give up holiday time to their employers for rep games. What the statement from the two NGBs effectively means is that if the players go, and have to isolate on their return, its not on the NGBs. They are washing their hands of this problem. If there’s two less Squads coming over there’s a bit of the budget spare to help with that cost of isolation. With Tonga now probably second favourite. Worth the bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Samoa, Fiji, Tonga, Italy, Greece, Lebanon, Cook Islands all reliant on NRL player's to fill their squads, these player's have mostly the same employers as the Aus and NZ player's, not a snowball in hells chance of any of these teams taking part. Has the song says "Let's call the whole thing off" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 This is mainly a power play by the Aussie domestic clubs and we should battle to make sure it is reported as such. People have agreed in principle to something and broken their promise with Covid as a convenient excuse. Need to ensure the reputation damage for Australia is as big as can be made. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Just now, Harry Stottle said: "Let's call the whole thing off" I agree. Time to look at whether 2022 is possible instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 More I think about it more I think we should just crack on, the group im going to the openng game with agree they aren’t RL fans so don’t really care whos in it 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 12 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Olympics and Euros are completely different tournaments that have their own challenges and deemed to have overcome them. Those events proceeding and the measures undertaken to have them proceed will be unique to those tournaments and completely different to the measures required (and the financial ability) for the RLWC. Why is it completely different . The organisers will have been bending over backwards to make it as secure and safe as possible and reassure them as much as they can . Nothing is risk free , there are cases inside many bubbles in sport , but like other events what could be done would be done … but the NRL side just aren’t willing to see beyond self interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 12 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Olympics and Euros are completely different tournaments that have their own challenges and deemed to have overcome them. Those events proceeding and the measures undertaken to have them proceed will be unique to those tournaments and completely different to the measures required (and the financial ability) for the RLWC. Why is it completely different . The organisers will have been bending over backwards to make it as secure and safe as possible and reassure them as much as they can . Nothing is risk free , there are cases inside many bubbles in sport , but like other events what could be done would be done … but the NRL side just aren’t willing to see beyond self interest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrhino Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Just now, 17 stone giant said: I agree. Time to look at whether 2022 is possible instead. Would you trust Aus to take part in 2022. I wouldn't. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said: Samoa, Fiji, Tonga, Italy, Greece, Lebanon, Cook Islands all reliant on NRL player's to fill their squads, these player's have mostly the same employers as the Aus and NZ player's, not a snowball in hells chance of any of these teams taking part. Has the song says "Let's call the whole thing off" But the NRL know they can't bill these national federations like they can the ARLC. If they hold firm, indeed if players switch to them to play, then its even more likely they come over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 I was so peeved I posted twice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Mattrhino said: Would you trust Aus to take part in 2022. I wouldn't. Of course they won't take part in 2022. They never want to take part. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Mattrhino said: Would you trust Aus to take part in 2022. I wouldn't. Not in the slightest. Australia only want to play international rugby on their terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 28 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1418118191147061251?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet agree with this... also sounds like its still game on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Re vaccination. Low level of take up because Aussies are scared it might turn them into Strop replicas. I have news for them. Its too late... that happened years ago. Four legs good - two legs bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrhino Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 I'd wager if it doesn't go ahead. That will be time for the RLWC for a long time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 10 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said: Anyone else think the swear filter should be removed on this one thread for just this one occasion? We need to vent! #### #####. ## ######## ####### #### 2 3 Four legs good - two legs bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industria ditat Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 The only thing that surprised me about this is the announcement that the World Cup was going ahead. I actually thought that it would have been cancelled by now as there was never any certainty of the Aussies/ Kiwis coming and without them the World Cup is massively devalued. I may be in a minority, but I don't blame them. They are jumping through hoops to keep their domestic competition going and will probably have to do so for the rest of the season. By October most of them will probably have had enough and won't want all the hassle and uncertainty that the World Cup will entail for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 "We are easily breakable, by illness or falling, or a million other ways of leaving this earthly life. We are just so much mashed potato." Don Estelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioman Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, Coventry said: Nobody here will touch the AZ vaccine with a barge pole, especially as two more died from clotting today. As a pom living in Oz it was obvious months ago that the WC wasn’t going to happen. The country is locking down tighter by the day and the public are not allowed to leave the country. If they somehow get out they won’t be coming back until 2022 at the earliest. There are still some 40,000 expats trying to get back, and have been since 2020. My daughter who lives in Oz and is an Aussie Citizen had Astra Zeneca and is fine, but then again she's from Yorkshire and obviously made of sterner stuff . 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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