Cricket - Matches & General Discussion Thread

[Futtocks]

And it's over. Australia go 4 points up in the international series.

[phiggins]

Tongue for Ali in only change to the team for the second men's test. Begs the question, why bother calling Rehan Ahmed up as cover?

[gingerjon]

45 minutes ago, phiggins said:

Tongue for Ali in only change to the team for the second men's test. Begs the question, why bother calling Rehan Ahmed up as cover?

Very similar to the first Test in that I don’t see us taking 20 wickets unless the Aussies make errors.

[tim2]

Turns out cricket is full of racists and misogynists. I'm shocked, I tell you.

[Hopping Mad]

47 minutes ago, tim2 said:

Turns out cricket is full of racists and misogynists. I'm shocked, I tell you.

Not to mention being classist and elitist.

Could that report into cricket be describing rugby union (same type of chap, different season)?

Edited June 27, 2023 by Hopping Mad

[gingerjon]

1 hour ago, tim2 said:

Turns out cricket is full of racists and misogynists. I'm shocked, I tell you.

All I will say on this thread about it: that is a very thorough report. No wriggle room at all.

[Gerrumonside ref]

Heard bits of an interview that outlined horrendous examples of everything that was concluded.

As others have said it’s for the Politics section I guess.

 

 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Gerrumonside ref

[THE RED ROOSTER]

Rumour has it that having started out wanting flat and fast wickets we now have a traditional English greentop at Lords and an unbalanced England side which tells you two things:

• Stokes is not up to beiong the fifth seamer this series beause of the knee issue asnd that unbalances the side
• Moeen Ali has not recovererd and it was always a reach to ask a player who has not bowled in red ball cricket for two years to bowl 20 overs a day in a five day test. Your body is not going to be up to it

Rehan Ahmed,  he was not going to play. Your problem being with an 18 year old you run the risk in such a big series of putting his development back by two years if the Aussies get after him or worse he does a Simon Kerrigan and disappears altogether having developed the bowling "yips" due to the occasion.

That said, it's always a risk going into a test without a spinner and selecting the four seamers means a search for a double headed coin as it means England have to win the toss and bowl.

England's brittle batting line up, under fire from some crafty sledges from Jim Maxwell always commentating for Australia about Jonny B's weight. Now if you ever read anything I post on here, I am a big fan of Jonny behind the stumps, but I confess his general keeping apart from the drops was scruffy at Edgbason. Which brings me to Marnus Labuschange's barbed comments on Joe Root's self-inflicted dismissal. the truth hurts I am afraid as I have written on here KP was publicly flayed against South Africa back in 2008 for doing a Root.

With England overly dependant on the middle order of Root, Stokes and Bairstow another defeat and the fouth estate may get stuck into Bazball for while Ben Stokes might feel England are not a results oriented side. The object of the game is to win.

Australia are a superior side with variety in their attack. The one chink in the Aussie armour is Cameron Green who with bat and ball resembles "Watto" without the LBW dismissals on the front pad. Captain Pat though has himself as Right arm fast, Hazlewood and Boland with fast medium accuracy, Lyon turning his off-breaks and the return of Mitchell Starc at the expense of either Hazlewood or Boland. Starc known as "the Mop" for his ability to clean up the tail and no doubt licking his lips at the prospect of an England tail end beginning at number 8.

England are facing Starc reality at Lords..

[ivans82]

Agree with everything you`ve said RED ROOSTER apart from the fact that regardless of what the wicket looks like i would always bat first, simply because whoever bats last will have the worst of the wicket . My dread is Aussie bat first and knock up 500+ and with our style and mindset we would be caught in no mans land .Desperate to get near a big total but having to compromise the way we go about it .

[Futtocks]

Ashes Test 2 (Lord's): England won the toss and chose to bowl.

[Futtocks]

11 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Ashes Test 2 (Lord's): England won the toss and chose to bowl.

Rain seems likely tomorrow. Otherwise, it should be mostly okay.

[Futtocks]

Just Stop Oil have invaded the ground, but have been kept away from the actual pitch.

[MattSantos]

Dropped catches. I dont think we'll take 20 wickets and will have a mega chase on Sunday. All out for 250 chasing 400

[DavidM]

Tongue has shown how crucial some nip is at this level . We talked for 18 months about pace , and yes I know we have some injuries , but it’s been quite depressing watching 3 guys barely reach 80mph . I don’t know if Robinson is injured , at his best he has some nip , but he’s barely got it to the other end 

[MattSantos]

55 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Tongue has shown how crucial some nip is at this level . We talked for 18 months about pace , and yes I know we have some injuries , but it’s been quite depressing watching 3 guys barely reach 80mph . I don’t know if Robinson is injured , at his best he has some nip , but he’s barely got it to the other end 

Robinson looks awful today. I'd be interested to see Woakes's record at Lords and how he's been travelling in county cricket.

[DavidM]

38 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

Robinson looks awful today. I'd be interested to see Woakes's record at Lords and how he's been travelling in county cricket.

Terrible , he never looked like this last summer . It’s complete powder puff so far . Smith looked like he could literallly do what he wanted in that first over 

[MattSantos]

Is it time for Anderson to call it a day as well?

I appreciate that i'm pessimistic, but this doesnt bode well.

[Josef K]

I apologise if this has been mentioned before but when did they start calling a five wicket haul a fifer(is that right). Who was the first to start saying it and why!!.

I can remember being told when doing history at school that a fifer played a tune for soldiers to change formation in battle(or something like that!!!). 

[Josef K]

What a fantastic win for Lancashire at Surrey Rah Rah Rah. 

[THE RED ROOSTER]

England finding out the hard way that if you lead with the lip you might end up with a fat lip instead.

I think both Crawley and Robinson will be on the butt end of a serve when they come out because what they have been coming out with in public is not looking too flash at the time of writing.

England could change the bowlers but not the bowling  today. The only relief towards the end when both Head and Green attempted to Bazball Joe Root

Sadly it is also my view that once Australia start to bowl. This is going to seem to spectators a competely different wicket

Fortunately the weather forecast offers a potential escape route for an England side that if it was to go 2-0  down would see the Ashes hype deflate like a burst baloon. So altogether then..

[Gerrumonside ref]

England’s morning for sure, but is it too late in terms of putting the win back in the equation (or even the draw if you’re feeling pessimistic)

Going to need an almighty effort with the bat now whatever.

A testing afternoon in prospect.

 

[Futtocks]

I just stumbled upon Andy Zaltzman's Ashes Urncasts: https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/the-ashes 

[MattSantos]

Eoin Morgan is incredibly annoying. Just speak and stop emphasising random words you lunatic!

[GeordieSaint]

That was awful from Crawley. What’s that now - 4 stumpings in 1.5 tests for England?

[DavidM]

How many times are we gonna do it ? Nothing happening ….There you go have that wicket