Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 55 minutes ago, barnyia said: I can't believe toulouse still have to pay the travel costs of teams coming to France, unless they got it wrong in the local French paper, This is shocking, do we want to forever be an M62 only sport or not 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, DoubleD said: Yes, this is the reason why their close season player spending was restricted. They really should be exempt from relegation but some prefer the virtual cycle of clubs yo-yoing and then getting into financial difficulties Then SL and the English clubs are no less self interested than the NRL, just with a lot less ambition. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, barnyia said: I can't believe toulouse still have to pay the travel costs of teams coming to France, unless they got it wrong in the local French paper, Even in the full time Super League? It sort of makes sense when they were in the lower leagues but not Super League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, barnyia said: I can't believe toulouse still have to pay the travel costs of teams coming to France, unless they got it wrong in the local French paper, Back in October a certain club was anonymously complaining Toulouse were not welcome in SL as they brought no away fans or TV subscribers and it was going to cost them around £30K to visit so I don't think that is true unless it has been changed secretly. The better run clubs, Leeds in particular, try to offset the travel cost by organising supporter/corporate trips which generate income. Edited January 21 by Whippet13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/toulouse-boss-on-recruitment-home-attendances-and-super-league-challenge/ 3/4 way down the article it says they had to pay travel for teams in the championship and will negotiate for next season in super League, this article was the 11th October, The French paper said it had to put away team travel costs into their 6 million euros budget, Edited January 21 by barnyia 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 18 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: My advice, stay where you are. I think they'd stay up this year if they went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Trinity Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 17 hours ago, RayCee said: Michael Carter can now breathe a little easier. Why? If 82% of SL players are vaccinated Wakefield are average on that now include Catalans and Wire who have stated they are at 100% then some clubs have way more players unvaccinated than Wakefield, probably other clubs have sheep Chairman at least MC is not afraid to raise difficult subjects of which the meeting yesterday failed to resolve this one in any shape or form just deferring it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, Forever Trinity said: Why? If 82% of SL players are vaccinated Wakefield are average on that now include Catalans and Wire who have stated they are at 100% then some clubs have way more players unvaccinated than Wakefield, probably other clubs have sheep Chairman at least MC is not afraid to raise difficult subjects of which the meeting yesterday failed to resolve this one in any shape or form just deferring it! Because losing five or six players permanently this close to the season starting is probably a bigger detriment to Toulouse than Wakefield losing four or five players for one fixture this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, DoubleD said: Yes, this is the reason why their close season player spending was restricted. They really should be exempt from relegation but some prefer the virtual cycle of clubs yo-yoing and then getting into financial difficulties Which of the last club's relegated save for London in '19 who had the bad luck of being relegated when the next season was hit by COVID and Bradford in '14 have got into financial difficulties? In Bradford's case their financial difficulties started long before they got relegated, and I doubt any of those two will be yo-yoing for a while. So since P&R was reinstated in '15 excepting London only Leigh and HKR have been relegated and both of those have not suffered financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, DoubleD said: They really should be exempt from relegation but some prefer the virtual cycle of clubs yo-yoing and then getting into financial difficulties No they really shouldn't. When you start twisting the rules to benefit one cub over another it just makes a complete mockery of the whole competition. 1 set of rules that everyone plays under. If you want P&R then the best team from the Championship comes up and replaces the worst team in SL whoever they are and wherever they're from. If you want a league that has guaranteed places for clubs depending on other criteria (such as location) then scrap P&R and return to licencing. St.Helens - The Home of Rugby Champions Saints Men's team - Triple Champions & Double Winners ; Saints Women's team - Treble Winners ; Thatto Heath - National Conference Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Trinity Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Jughead said: Because losing five or six players permanently this close to the season starting is probably a bigger detriment to Toulouse than Wakefield losing four or five players for one fixture this year. Thats not my point, I am pointing out MC raised the issue of vaccinations everyone jumped on Wakefield having 4 to 6 players possibly unvaccinated which is the sport average, Wakefield must be in a much better position than some other clubs as at least 2 clubs have said they are at 100% TO are basically the same average as Wakefield that leaves the remaining 8 who on average must have more than 6 players unvaccinated so its more detrimental to them. Carters point was also that clubs playing earlier in the season could be disadvantaged if the rules were changed later. For me I would just have a UK SL now it maybe a few years before things really settle down again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 26 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I think they'd stay up this year if they went At who's expense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Forever Trinity said: For me I would just have a UK SL now it maybe a few years before things really settle down again. We should definitely just have Yorkshire and Lancashire Leagues. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, Forever Trinity said: For me I would just have a UK SL now it maybe a few years before things really settle down again. Have you got a Tin Hat? That statement is tantamount to Heresy on these pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'd do like the NFL in America, Lancashire league and a Yorkshire league, then the champions of the Lancashire play offs v the champions of Yorkshire play offs to become the champion of UK and Europe or just say world like they do in the USA. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggFace Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 hours ago, Tex Evans Thigh said: Might be a blessing in disguise for them getting rid of these anti-vax idiots. Not sure who the others are but Ford and Kherellah are the wrong side of 30 and not the players they were. Toulouse's recruitment has been awful so maybe this gives them another stab at it, albeit late in the game. Is that you Telfon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggFace Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 hours ago, Man of Kent said: What a waste of time, effort and talent over a small pr1ck Yes I know 1 ##### is not enough but 2/3/100 boosters well come on :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Have you got a Tin Hat? That statement is tantamount to Heresy on these pages. And rightly so,don’t you think ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: At who's expense? Wakefield ....signings look weak (Davetanivalu from the army and Minns who was Champ bound ??? Strewth) Also the ground distraction /Poching's honeymoon over/Covid deniers in squad..... Edited January 21 by Bedfordshire Bronco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Wakefield ....signings look weak (Davetanivalu from the army and Minns who was Champ bound ??? Strewth) Also the ground distraction /Poching's honeymoon over/Covid deniers in squad..... I think Wakefield will keep their SL status, they have a habit of getting the results when they matter, Salford have recruited well enough to not finish bottom, so in my opinion if promoted to the SL how would Fev go with some player's part time, not to well they are better if staying where they are, also if any club could not learn from how Leigh were treated last year they would be crazy to accept an invitation but if they did it would have to be on their terms and not SL's, sorry but TO are going to have to lump it and do their best. Edited January 21 by Harry Stottle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: I think Wakefield will keep their SL status, they have a habit of getting the results when they matter, Brings me back to that Friday night standing on the Western Terrace at belle Vue in 2019......there were more of us there as away support that night as there was at the Haven game in Ealing last year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: how would Fev go with some player's part time, not to well they are better if staying where they are Part time or not I was there for the friendly against Rhinos....they went toe to toe with their mostly first team in the first half....and people are saying leeds are contenders Also that track at Fev will be a leveller for part of the season at last..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Part time or not I was there for the friendly against Rhinos....they went toe to toe with their mostly first team in the first half....and people are saying leeds are contenders Also that track at Fev will be a leveller for part of the season at last..... Getting up for a one off game in pre season is one thing, keeping it up for s season long campaign and having a full time job besides is a whole different ball game, especially in this season where there are going to be weeks with 2 games to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Getting up for a one off game in pre season is one thing, keeping it up for s season long campaign and having a full time job besides is a whole different ball game, especially in this season where there are going to be weeks with 2 games to play. I think if they went full time with current squad and some additions they'd be OK personally.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I think if they went full time with current squad and some additions they'd be OK personally.... They'd be miles off. Any Championship team would be. @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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