Dunbar Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I really don't like it when commentators refer to a half as a 'stanza'. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB Knight Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Yardage out of play, control the ruck. Both phrases confuse me. Also ‘you’re useless Childs’ (Child) and ‘shut up Tompkins’ (Tomkins). I can’t see football fans calling Haaland by the name of Haalands so why do we struggle to get names right?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 What we need to do moving forward is put the right structures in place , in terms of the framework moving forward. We’re ring fencing the funding and trending in the right direction and with a holistic vision we can move forward and with the bandwidth to think outside the box we should be able to achieve success moving forward . Our new coach was the standout candidate among a high quality field , and his presentation and vision to the board impressed us all . He ticked all the boxes and will have a wide ranging remit which will see the club on a sustained footing … moving forward 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 "X person... gone" I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I came on here thinking "God I bet there's loads of sayings I agree with!" but having read a few feel the need to defend half of them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, SJD said: "Play the balls", there's only one ball. I'm sure my English Master would know the proper grammar, but having said that he died about 40 years ago so I can't ask him. "Play-the-ball" would be a hyphenated noun, or "play the ball" would be a noun phrase, so there's nothing wrong with making it a plural. Context is key. Nothing wrong with this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave W said: The edges What's the issue with this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: What's the issue with this one? I don't mind edges or middles in modern RL language. I think it describes the role of the prop and second row better than.... well, prop and second row. 2 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V02 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: I came on here thinking "God I bet there's loads of sayings I agree with!" but having read a few feel the need to defend half of them! Half of these are useful phrases and exist for that reason. Edges, middles, yardage are all terms that offer something particularly useful for example. But they are terms that didn't exist X years ago so are therefore bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richard de la Riviere said: “Fifth and last” should either be “fifth and penultimate” or “sixth and last” given there are six tackles in a set! I take it as meaning "that was the fifth tackle and this is the last play before a turnover. It tells you the tackle number (that's what the ref counts in) and warns you of the last play. "Sixth and last" makes it sound like the 6th tackle has already been made. You could obviously argue that it means 6th play, but as the referee counts the tackles, it's just confusing. So another I disagree with. Nothing wrong with "fifth and last" for me! God, I'm in an argumentative mood Edited September 26, 2022 by Wellsy4HullFC 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, Wellsy4HullFC said: God, I'm in an argumentative mood No you're not. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I don't mind edges or middles in modern RL language. I think it describes the role of the prop and second row better than.... well, prop and second row. 4 minutes ago, V02 said: Half of these are useful phrases and exist for that reason. Edges, middles, yardage are all terms that offer something particularly useful for example. But they are terms that didn't exist X years ago so are therefore bad. Agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, Dunbar said: No you're not. Oh yes I am! (I'm actually starring in a panto this Christmas, so thought I'd get some early practice in ) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, DavidM said: D in an over clever way like defence is so hard to say Guessing you don't like being called "Dave" then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, metallithrax said: The one that really gets me is "2/3/4 score lead" etc. In their eyes a 2 score lead is 12 points, but the minimum number of scores needed to pull back 12 points is 3. I know what they are getting at, but it is incorrect and it annoys me. No it's not. If you're winning 1-0 in football, you don't have a 2 goal lead, do you! You have a 1 goal lead as if the other team scores then you're no longer leading, you're drawing. If you're winning by 12 points in rugby league, it takes a minimum of two scores (via 2 converted tries) to take that lead away. You're wrong on this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creditwhereitsdews Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Field goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Oh yes I am! (I'm actually starring in a panto this Christmas, so thought I'd get some early practice in ) Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? 1 3 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, creditwhereitsdews said: Field goal Ok, I agree with the annoyance of Australian terms being brought in to English commentary when we have perfectly good English terms! Dressing sheds, lock forward and five-eight(h) being others! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dunbar said: No you're not. That's not argument. That's contradiction: the automatic gainsaying,.well, you all know the rest... 2 "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." JohnM - 17/01/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, metallithrax said: The one that really gets me is "2/3/4 score lead" etc. In their eyes a 2 score lead is 12 points, but the minimum number of scores needed to pull back 12 points is 3. I know what they are getting at, but it is incorrect and it annoys me. I don't think it is incorrect, it is 2 scores to get even. Edited September 26, 2022 by Damien 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Guessing you don't like being called "Dave" then! Always hated it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Richard de la Riviere said: “Fifth and last” should either be “fifth and penultimate” or “sixth and last” given there are six tackles in a set! 5th tackle and last one coming it means... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 47 minutes ago, AB Knight said: Yardage out of play, control the ruck. Both phrases confuse me. Also ‘you’re useless Childs’ (Child) and ‘shut up Tompkins’ (Tomkins). I can’t see football fans calling Haaland by the name of Haalands so why do we struggle to get names right?! The worst: "Rob Burrows" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 50 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I really don't like it when commentators refer to a half as a 'stanza'. Do commentators still say that? Maybe its because I associate it with Stevo so much but I don't recall anyone saying it but him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 When English people pronounce "defence" as "Dee-fense" The way Australians say the word maroon. Whenever any social media team tweets a picture of a player and captions it with their initials and squad number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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