swinton lions

[Rlsouthyorks]

A year or so ago Swinton were talking about rebranding as Manchester Lions .I think i would have a great idea . Rebranding and relocating i think FC united of Manchester stadium could be a perfect location . 

[Number 16]

2 minutes ago, Rlsouthyorks said:

A year or so ago Swinton were talking about rebranding as Manchester Lions .I think i would have a great idea . Rebranding and relocating i think FC united of Manchester stadium could be a perfect location . 

Just use the search function on this forum and you'll find previous threads on the subject. There's no need to start a new one!

[Rlsouthyorks]

14 minutes ago, Number 16 said:

Just use the search function on this forum and you'll find previous threads on the subject. There's no need to start a new one!

ok thanks

[Tosh]

An even bigger one that got away was the handling of the Hemel license that was awarded to the Ottawa Aces high or whatever they were called over the Manchester rangers.

Another genius move by the RFL.

[Tommygilf]

Says Manchester on the badge doesn't it?

Andy Mazey was the major proponent and faced significant backlash from the fans. I believe he left Swinton in the aftermath of this and headed to Rochdale.

[JM2010]

1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

If we want a central manchester club start it from scratch without any of the bagge. Make more sense to call Swinton Sale Lions if there was a name change. 

That happened with Manchester Rangers but they were rejected from the RFL

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, JM2010 said:

That happened with Manchester Rangers but they were rejected from the RFL

Supposedly partly because of opposition from within the existing clubs.

Swinton added Manchester to their badge shortly after. Surprise?

[The Art of Hand and Foot]

2 hours ago, Rlsouthyorks said:

A year or so ago Swinton were talking about rebranding as Manchester Lions .I think i would have a great idea . Rebranding and relocating i think FC united of Manchester stadium could be a perfect location . 

FC United are about half a mile from the Oldham border. About 8 miles from Swinton.

[Pie tries]

When the Salford chap buys the stadium (fingers crossed) he intends (so I read) to move Swinton into the AJB. Would be great to have them both in a home that wants them

[Jughead]

I never got the obsession with having a side named Manchester, especially given the lack of strategy from the sport, the governing bodies or those associated presently or previously with Swinton Lions. 

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

If we want a central manchester club start it from scratch without any of the bagge. Make more sense to call Swinton Sale Lions if there was a name change. 

Why Sale? It’s just a small insignificant town. 

[Eddie]

42 minutes ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

FC United are about half a mile from the Oldham border. About 8 miles from Swinton.

Don’t let facts and common sense stop people sticking pins in maps mate. 

[Tommygilf]

45 minutes ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

FC United are about half a mile from the Oldham border. About 8 miles from Swinton.

That's still a couple of miles closer than Sale is

[Wellsy4HullFC]

32 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Why Sale? It’s just a small insignificant town. 

I'm guessing because that's where they play.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Swinton will never progress much higher in their current guise. The professional game is not structured in a way that would see a small district club afford to do so.

That might be ok for them and their supporters. They may prefer to hold on to tradition rather than evolve for success.

Not sure how I'd feel in a similar situation. Easy for me to say I'd name the change if it improved chances of success, but Hull aren't ever going to be in that situation as it's already named after the biggest city in the area for miles, and there's not much to add by going East Yorkshire other than a few small towns and villages.

I mean, I always thought Hunslet should have become Leeds Hawks to appeal to a wider base of sponsors and supporters. But, see above. 

[hw88]

8 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

Swinton will never progress much higher in their current guise. The professional game is not structured in a way that would see a small district club afford to do so.

That might be ok for them and their supporters. They may prefer to hold on to tradition rather than evolve for success.

Not sure how I'd feel in a similar situation. Easy for me to say I'd name the change if it improved chances of success, but Hull aren't ever going to be in that situation as it's already named after the biggest city in the area for miles, and there's not much to add by going East Yorkshire other than a few small towns and villages.

I mean, I always thought Hunslet should have become Leeds Hawks to appeal to a wider base of sponsors and supporters. But, see above. 

Certainly if there is no promotion! Thanks for nothing Super League.

Swinton were once big hitters - just fallen on hard times. With luck they can rise again.

The 'Manchester' area already has 2 teams - Swinton and Salford plus Oldham and Rochdale not far away. There used to be a 5th - Broughton/Belle Vue Rangers. How many more teams do people want in that city?

[Damien]

3 minutes ago, hw88 said:

Certainly if there is no promotion! Thanks for nothing Super League.

Swinton were once big hitters - just fallen on hard times. With luck they can rise again.

The 'Manchester' area already has 2 teams - Swinton and Salford plus Oldham and Rochdale not far away. There used to be a 5th - Broughton/Belle Vue Rangers. How many more teams do people want in that city?

Maybe an actual Manchester team.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

4 minutes ago, hw88 said:

Certainly if there is no promotion! Thanks for nothing Super League.

Swinton were once big hitters - just fallen on hard times. With luck they can rise again.

The 'Manchester' area already has 2 teams - Swinton and Salford plus Oldham and Rochdale not far away. There used to be a 5th - Broughton/Belle Vue Rangers. How many more teams do people want in that city?

No, not because there's no promotion, but because a small town of 20k in an area that dwarfs it and is football mad is going to struggle to get the investment needed to produce a competitive full time team; especially without a ground.

Castleford are an anomaly, but at least don't have the football issue.

The Manchester area has a fair few teams. Manchester itself has none within and none by name. 

[Eddie]

55 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

I'm guessing because that's where they play.

Temporarily though. 

[Eddie]

34 minutes ago, hw88 said:

Certainly if there is no promotion! Thanks for nothing Super League.

Swinton were once big hitters - just fallen on hard times. With luck they can rise again.

The 'Manchester' area already has 2 teams - Swinton and Salford plus Oldham and Rochdale not far away. There used to be a 5th - Broughton/Belle Vue Rangers. How many more teams do people want in that city?

There isn’t a single team in Manchester as far as I’m aware. 

[SalfordSlim]

Some people still seem to struggle to grasp that Swinton is in Salford and neither Salford or Swinton are part of Manchester. 2 separate cities entirely.

May as well say Wigan is in St Helens or Bradford is in Leeds.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

1 minute ago, SalfordSlim said:

Some people still seem to struggle to grasp that Swinton is in Salford and neither Salford or Swinton are part of Manchester. 2 separate cities entirely.

May as well say Wigan is in St Helens or Bradford is in Leeds.

Well no, because Salford is in Greater Manchester. There are no connections with the other examples you give.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

10 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Temporarily though. 

Any plans on moving yet?

[SalfordSlim]

2 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

Well no, because Salford is in Greater Manchester. There are no connections with the other examples you give.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Manchester

Wigan is in Greater Manchester.... why haven't Wigan or Leigh rebranded as a Manchester club?

[JohnM]

44 minutes ago, hw88 said:

Certainly if there is no promotion! Thanks for nothing Super League.

Swinton were once big hitters - just fallen on hard times. With luck they can rise again.

The 'Manchester' area already has 2 teams - Swinton and Salford plus Oldham and Rochdale not far away. There used to be a 5th - Broughton/Belle Vue Rangers. How many more teams do people want in that city?

Swinton - resurgam? I think not, sad to say. Big hitters 50 - 60 years ago yes, but the demise of Station Road spelt the end for a club already in significant decline. That's not to belittle the motivation, the  effort, the determination,  the enterprise of recent regimes, but the hard truth is....hard.