Newcastle Thunder

[Gav Wilson]

5 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:

It’s my opinion but the game was in a better state then than it is now. Packed wembley’s etc 

Another myth that has been debunked several times.

[dkw]

Some real rose coloured glasses going on here with peoples memory of the game gone by. It wasn't this endless utopian display of amazing skills. It was often a dour forward battle for the majority of the game, with reset scrum after scrum, poor ball handling, thuggery etc.

I watched the fabled 1980 hull Derby cup final last week, it was terrible to watch skill wise, so much dropped ball, awful scrums etc.

When they play was good it was really good, but it was enormously in the minority.

[Rovers13]

2 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said:

Another myth that has been debunked several times.

I’ve been there I’ve been amongst it atmosphere’s we’re amazing. 

[Rovers13]

2 minutes ago, dkw said:

Some real rose coloured glasses going on here with peoples memory of the game gone by. It wasn't this endless utopian display of amazing skills. It was often a dour forward battle for the majority of the game, with reset scrum after scrum, poor ball handling, thuggery etc.

I watched the fabled 1980 hull Derby cup final last week, it was terrible to watch skill wise, so much dropped ball, awful scrums etc.

When they play was good it was really good, but it was enormously in the minority.

Just depends what you prefer but it’s like watching robots now to me. 

[Spidey]

45 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:

I’d rather watch a game 30 years ago than now. 

Good for you YouTube has got loads of free content

[Rovers13]

Wilderspool, thrum hall,  boulevard, Knowlesley road, craven park, naughton park we’re bouncing now their as dead as a door Knob lol. 

[Fevrover]

1 hour ago, Rovers13 said:

The product on the pitch gets me through the gates, not flashing lights and shiny toilets if I wanted that I wouldn’t watch rugby id go clubbing or buy myself a new toilet lol. 

Yeah but let's face it 99% of supporters would rather have shiny and not smelly toilets then not. The facilities are part of the match day experience so they need to be up to standard.

[Derwent Parker]

38 minutes ago, dkw said:

Some real rose coloured glasses going on here with peoples memory of the game gone by. It wasn't this endless utopian display of amazing skills. It was often a dour forward battle for the majority of the game, with reset scrum after scrum, poor ball handling, thuggery etc.

I watched the fabled 1980 hull Derby cup final last week, it was terrible to watch skill wise, so much dropped ball, awful scrums etc.

When they play was good it was really good, but it was enormously in the minority.

I think I have a pair of rose coloured glasses - miss the contested scrums and a bit of Biff - but handling was a bit poorer but that's because of the rain and muddy conditions.

Summer [if you can call it that only lasted till end of June this year] is far better for viewing the game

[Blind side johnny]

3 hours ago, Rovers13 said:

You maybe right but if a team are in a position to spend it they should, not just Bob along mid table or float With relegation every season like wakey.

Many aren't. What do you propose they should do? (Excluding a magic money tree.)

[Blind side johnny]

1 hour ago, Rovers13 said:

It’s my opinion I preferred the rugby before SL. I had the chance to watch some cracking players. Not one today I will remember. 

You were 30+ years younger - that makes a massive difference in perspective.

[dkw]

11 minutes ago, Derwent Parker said:

I think I have a pair of rose coloured glasses - miss the contested scrums and a bit of Biff - but handling was a bit poorer but that's because of the rain and muddy conditions.

Summer [if you can call it that only lasted till end of June this year] is far better for viewing the game

Go back and look at games in the 4 or 5 seasons prior to them becoming uncontested, there's a very good reason for it, they were god awful messes, the ball barely got in the tunnel for most of them, or it was reset after reset then penalty.

[Blind side johnny]

1 hour ago, Rovers13 said:

Probably so as NRL is far superior but it’s an Australian major sport so we will never be able to compete with it, we need to sell what we have and for me that’s the product we need to make it better somehow, not a new stadium or a new toilet. 

I have been to some of their stadiums - they have nice toilets too.

[Rovers13]

34 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

Yeah but let's face it 99% of supporters would rather have shiny and not smelly toilets then not. The facilities are part of the match day experience so they need to be up to standard.

Like I said last franchising if we go down this route again I’m done with the sport. I don’t care where I pee, as long as rugby is great to watch, I will go to cinema if I cared about the toilets. 

[Rovers13]

I would rather pee my money up wall in the pub than watch 30 friendlies a season on lower funded teams. 

[Chrispmartha]

1 hour ago, Rovers13 said:

This is where we differ I would rather watch wigan of 80s/90s in their old stadium than the poor wigan side today in their brand new shiny stadium. 

Brand new, it’s nearly 25 years old!

[Rovers13]

1 minute ago, Chrispmartha said:

Brand new, it’s nearly 25 years old!

Well yeah because it’s not their’s it’s football teams it’s not a new built for the RL team. 

[Chrispmartha]

Just now, Rovers13 said:

Well yeah because it’s not their’s it’s football teams it’s not a new built for the RL team. 

That makes no sense in relation to what I said.

[Chrispmartha]

Also it’s not owned by the football club

[Rovers13]

Just now, Chrispmartha said:

That makes no sense in relation to what I said.

It does because it wasn’t specifically built for RL they just let you rent it. If they kicked you out where would you be then? 

[georgeb1]

8 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:

I would rather pee my money up wall in the pub than watch 30 friendlies a season on lower funded teams. 

You go do that , I'm sure rovers won't miss you

[Chrispmartha]

2 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:

It does because it wasn’t specifically built for RL they just let you rent it. If they kicked you out where would you be then? 

Why would they kick me out i don’t live there, you said it was a shiny new stadium, I was pointing out its 25 years old, who owns it (its not the football club) is irrelevant to my point

Edited October 16, 2023 by Chrispmartha

[Rovers13]

Just now, Chrispmartha said:

Why would they kick me out, you said it was a shiny new stadium, I was pointing out its 25 years old, who owns it (its not the football club) is irrelevant to my point

Fair enough, but it is a new build compared to most RL grounds was my point. 

[Spidey]

19 minutes ago, dkw said:

Go back and look at games in the 4 or 5 seasons prior to them becoming uncontested, there's a very good reason for it, they were god awful messes, the ball barely got in the tunnel for most of them, or it was reset after reset then penalty.

Bit like a game of RU

[Chrispmartha]

2 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:

Fair enough, but it is a new build compared to most RL grounds was my point. 

Not most in SL, funnily enough, the top tier of the sport should have decent facilities

[Fevrover]

16 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:

Like I said last franchising if we go down this route again I’m done with the sport. I don’t care where I pee, as long as rugby is great to watch, I will go to cinema if I cared about the toilets. 

That's your choice and i respect that but there's no reason we can't have a competitive team AND nice toilets. I agree they are in all honesty a set of friendlies but it's OUR club and after 52 years supporting them i ain't giving up yet,it's in the blood.