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Sat 28th Oct: International: England v Tonga KO 14:30 @ Huddersfield (BBC)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • England by 13 points or more
      4
    • England by 7 to 12 points
      13
    • England by 1 to 6 points
      12
    • Tonga by 1 to 6 points
      7
    • Tonga by 7 to 12 points
      7
    • Tonga by 13 points or more
      7

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Just now, dkw said:

Excellent defence.

The difference between the teams today has been the organisation and enthusiasm of the English defence.

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

The difference between the teams today has been the organisation and enthusiasm of the English defence.

Noble finally got something right when he called the England defence "composed" just now.

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Just now, dkw said:

Noble finally got something right when he called the England defence "composed" just now.

Well we are 75 minutes into the game.  It was due.

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"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

The difference between the teams today has been the organisation and enthusiasm of the English defence.

Indeed . We’ve been strong defensively . Attack wise though I think we should be more than 10 points ahead with how bad they’ve been

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Just now, DavidM said:

Indeed . We’ve been strong defensively . Attack wise though I think we should be more than 10 points ahead with how bad they’ve been

In fairness we've bombed absolute certain tries, which gives us a possible 20 points win.

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Our game now. We have played the conditions superbly. Our discipline and defence have been world class.

For a new team, we have performed superbly these last 2 weeks. Harry Smith’s performance was the best by a half back out of the 4 we have seen today. 

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Would be surprised if England lose the third test, but even still this feels like a fairly evenly placed rivalry with England superior in the style of football played throughout the series. 

If this series was to take place at home for Tonga (NZ) I would be equally unsurprised if the 3-0 result was reversed, home conditions feels like the biggest difference between the two teams.

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You only have to look atbthe type of numbers these Tongan middle forwards knock out week after week in the NRL to see just how well we have managed their go forward.

England have not been great as we haven't needed to be. But we have been good enough.

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"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

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