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Dunbar

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1 minute ago, bobbruce said:

I haven’t seen the game but I’ve seen enough of GJs posts. 

When it comes to his assessment of Rugby League players, a good rule of thumb is to assume the opposite is true.

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"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

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Not British but French. (didn’t know what thread to put this in) Enzo Griffier on fire for the Roosters SG Ball team (U19s) scored 6 tries in his last 3 games.  The Roosters are top of the S

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It was also the thread in which we would learn that Dom Young would be rubbish forever more because he made a losing debut as a 17 year old against St Helens and was at fault for every try.

graveyard johnny

graveyard johnny

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3 hours ago, Archie Gordon said:

Thought Farnworth was again very good at eating up metres coming out of his own half this morning. But he did throw a couple of abysmal offloads in the style of a giddy u11s player. 

and am sure it was Farnworth who got totally smashed in to touch by Best when he was attacking the try line?

I know Bono and he knows Ono and she knows Enos phone goes thus 

graveyard johnny

graveyard johnny

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a great little watch- well done Tom

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Dunbar

Dunbar

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So, at the end of the regular NRL season, here is my assessment of the Brits in the NRL.

Outstanding

Herbie Farnworth:  continues to show why he is one of the elite centres in the NRL and the world. Always contributes with the ball in hand with strong carries – probably has to improve his assists as he is not a classic wingers centre but all round very strong.

Good

Kai Pearce Paul:  held down the left edge spot for the Knights and while he may not have dangerous as we would have liked with the ball and maybe we would have liked to see more offloads, he was very solid in defence.

Morgan Smithies: Like KPP, a young English forward who has again locked down a spot in the NRL.  He gets a good rating due to his defence, but he needs to add some urgency into his running and passing game as he needs to do these things faster and with more attacking threat.

Dom Young: probably the one English player who gets the most scrutiny as a player on here.  A few lapses yes, but a 19 try return from 19 games says a lot and still puts his hand up to carry the ball well.

Solid

Tom Burgess: not his best NRL season and probably a little underused but will always win the contact and provide go forward and an attacking ruck.

Disappointing

Elliot Whitehead:  just not an impactful year for Whitehead.  He was never an edge forward to give you loads of metres and tackle breaks and his game was more based on guile and good attacking instincts to complement a good defensive ethic.  But it just feels like he is now a long way behind the best edge forwards in the NRL – but what a career.

John Bateman: not finishing the year with the Tigers probably says it all.

Bailey Hodgson: another tough year for Bailey who appeared 15 times for the Manly seconds in NSW Cup – hope he gets the chance at Leigh to fulfil his potential.

Will Pryce: Probably a bit harsh to put him in the disappointing category as we didn’t really expect him to lock down a first grade spot in year 1 but when he got a chance he didn’t really take it with a number of basic errors after a decent debut.  He will hopefully stick it out and get better.

Not graded

Ryan Sutton: a year marred by injury.

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"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

Dunbar

Dunbar

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20 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

I would only argue that Whitehead could be rated higher. I think that whilst age has diminished his physical game, he's shown a savvier side this year.

You say savvy, for me he spent too much time arguing with the ref for no value and then giving away daft penalties.  I felt like he should have just kept his head a bit more.

"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

Click

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On 08/09/2024 at 09:45, Dunbar said:

Herbie Farnworth comfortably outperformed Bradman Best this morning with twice as many run meters, over twice as many post contact meters and 5 times as many tackle busts as Best.

Unfortunately for Farnworth the Dolphins same short and they won't play finals this year.

I think he outperformed Best in that match, as good as his stats were, his errors were very costly as well. A few of his offloads were erratic to put them mildly. 

It was strange, watching him in the match, he plays like a SL/English player with the way he goes for offloads, rather than a typical NRL/Australian player. (Not sure if that was just me)

Dunbar

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24 minutes ago, Click said:

I think he outperformed Best in that match, as good as his stats were, his errors were very costly as well. A few of his offloads were erratic to put them mildly. 

It was strange, watching him in the match, he plays like a SL/English player with the way he goes for offloads, rather than a typical NRL/Australian player. (Not sure if that was just me)

He made two errors in the match.

One offload lost the Dolphins about 10 yards. The other was poor and they lost possession. 

Other than that, I remember him being bundled into touch close to the Knights line as they chased the game.

Hardly the stuff of nightmares. Unless I am forgetting something. 

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graveyard johnny

graveyard johnny

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38 minutes ago, DavidM said:

I’d have Herbie over Best every day and twice on Sundays 

if we ever get to see eng/gb play aus again in our lifetime then they may match up against each other again 

I know Bono and he knows Ono and she knows Enos phone goes thus 

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11 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

if we ever get to see eng/gb play aus again in our lifetime then they may match up against each other again 

I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

 

brst stick to watching the NRL matchups.

Dunbar

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I thought Pearce-Paul was good for the Knights this morning.

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"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

Dunbar

Dunbar

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5 hours ago, Dunbar said:

I thought Pearce-Paul was good for the Knights this morning.

I was just looking at these player ratings from the Fox sports page.

Absolutely no idea how he got Pearce-Paul as one the lowest scoring Kiights.

He says that he threw the intercept pass that Feldt caught (he didn't) and that he missed 6 tackles (according to the NRL.com game stats, he missed 1).

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"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

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Click

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21 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I was just looking at these player ratings from the Fox sports page.

Absolutely no idea how he got Pearce-Paul as one the lowest scoring Kiights.

He says that he threw the intercept pass that Feldt caught (he didn't) and that he missed 6 tackles (according to the NRL.com game stats, he missed 1).

I had to scroll back up to the top to check if the author was called johnny.

I think I can recall 2 tackles that he "missed" although I am not sure one of them would be on the stats - when he overchased on the ball carrier for the Cowboys to score. 

Thought he had a decent game - Ran some decent lines and got some good passes/offloads off. 

Think an off season will really help his development as a player and add more to him. I think he isn't as confident in throwing the offload out as he could be, and once he gets that part of his game going he will be a really big threat.

DavidM

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7 hours ago, Dunbar said:

I thought Pearce-Paul was good for the Knights this morning.

He was good . I’d like to see them use him more as a runner on the edge , particularly in a bit of space ,and complimentary to that i’d like to see him work on his speed and his strength in contact during the offseason as he can look a bit lumbering and easy to handle at times for his size . That’s not knocking him , I look at him and think there so much more to come . He was busy in defence today and overall this season it’s been a big tick for him , probably over delivering in his first season .

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dkw

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3 hours ago, Dunbar said:

I was just looking at these player ratings from the Fox sports page.

Absolutely no idea how he got Pearce-Paul as one the lowest scoring Kiights.

He says that he threw the intercept pass that Feldt caught (he didn't) and that he missed 6 tackles (according to the NRL.com game stats, he missed 1).

Graveyard Johnny do the ratings?

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Dunbar

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43 minutes ago, dkw said:

Graveyard Johnny do the ratings?

It did cross my mind.

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"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

graveyard johnny

graveyard johnny

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Dom Young scored a 6 on the ratings I saw - not much he could do though in a Roosters team that was totally dominated mostly in the 1st half by the Panthers 

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OMEGA

OMEGA

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8 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

Dom Young scored a 6 on the ratings I saw - not much he could do though in a Roosters team that was totally dominated mostly in the 1st half by the Panthers 

I thought the Roosters right edge defence was pretty solid throughout the game. Time after time Penrith went there and had to come back inside because the defence had read their play, numbered up and kept their shape. It was most often lazy inside defending that got caught out by players who been denied a route out to the edges.

Dunbar

Dunbar

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1 hour ago, OMEGA said:

I thought the Roosters right edge defence was pretty solid throughout the game. Time after time Penrith went there and had to come back inside because the defence had read their play, numbered up and kept their shape. It was most often lazy inside defending that got caught out by players who been denied a route out to the edges.

I also thought that Young was one of the few Roosters players that didn't get bullied physically by the Panthers in the first 20.

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"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

JM2010

JM2010

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2 hours ago, Dunbar said:

I also thought that Young was one of the few Roosters players that didn't get bullied physically by the Panthers in the first 20.

Agreed. Young had a pretty solid game but didn’t get many opportunities out wide. He took a lot of strong hit ups coming off his own line and did what he had to do defensively and under the high ball 

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Futtocks

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Herbie Farnworth has just won a Dally M medal!

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42 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Herbie Farnworth has just won a Dally M medal!

NRL Dally M Team of the Year

Fullback: James Tedesco (Sydney Roosters)
Wingers: Zac Lomax (St George Illawarra Dragons) and Brian To'o (Penrith Panthers)
Centres: Stephen Crichton (Canterbury Bulldogs) and Herbie Farnworth (The Dolphins)
Five-eighth: Tom Dearden (North Queensland Cowboys)
Halfback: Jahrome Hughes (Melbourne Storm)
Props: Joseph Tapine (Canberra Raiders) and Addin Fonua-Blake (New Zealand Warriors)
Hooker: Harry Grant (Melbourne Storm)
Second-rowers: Angus Crichton (Sydney Roosters) and Eliesa Katoa (Melbourne Storm)
Lock: Isaah Yeo (Penrith Panthers)

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