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More experience in the middle this year and a bigger pack (Trae OSullivan and Russ Spiers have been added) . Experienced players in the halfs (Benn Hardcastle and Dave Scott) and retained most of our squad and also the coaching team from last year. Have also added some very good young players. A number of teams above us have also strengthened but I'm fairly confident we'll be a match for many teams in the league

If that’s it I’d rather stay where we are . The scope for developing DP is greater

A new modern grandstand is a start. If its this or nothing.... I'd still chose this. So long as it is built with a function room/bar that is actually befitting of hosting events other than on matchdays and a decent standard of facilities to attract matchday sponsors, it's better than bot clubs continuing how they are.

You do realise we are talking about a Workington stadium Billy, you seem a bit over concerned about it.

So the new stadium is a new grandstand at bp and a plastic pitch?. And dp has to be sold to fund it? What a joke if this is correct

Just read an article from Mr Jenkinson on consituency matters and he's looking forward to a new stadium which has got £5.5 million pounds allotted to it out of the £15.5 million for town generation! For that cash we might as well stay at DP which at the moment is looking really good on the eye. Pitch superb, terracing excellent, floodlighting top of the range. I don't know the cost for the upkeep of DP but got to be some businesses out there could help out. I reckon for the money available we won't be calling any stand "grand".

Yeah, people seem to forget that we sign NRL players at potentially 10x the rate that go the other way. In fact , if swapped out all the former NRL players playing in SL for the English players playing the NRL, the nett result would be a far, far worse standard of SL. It would actually be devastating to the game over here. Let’s look at 2021: SL developed players to NRL: Oliver Gildart NRL developed players to SL: David Fusitua, Dylan Napa, Mitchell Pearce, Kane Evans, Will Hopoate, Curtis Sironen, Joey Lussick, Patrick Mago, Cade Cust, Tyrone May, Kaide Ellis, Brodie Croft, Tim Lafai, Mitch Dunn, Danny Levi etc (I’m sure I’ve missed a few). Plus Championship: Joseph Leluia, Nene McDonald etc SL and English rugby league take advantage of poaching NRL players far more than the other way round.

I think this idea of a talent drain to the NRL is a little overstated. We have had a pretty consistent number of Brits in the NRL in the over the last decade or so and the only players we have lost recently before they have really established themselves as Super League players are Bailey Hodgson, Harry Rushton and Dom Young so three youngsters... and arguably Herbie Farnworth although he didn't come through the English development system in the same way. It hardly feels like panic time just yet.

No such thing as "for starters" ABC has already said Reds and town have to self fund the rest. As a lot on here keep preaching that "existing facilities are a millstone round our necks" That means if they cant afford to maintain what we already have - then they definitely cannot afford to build anything in future. SO if this goes ahead that is what will be for the foreseeable. One new stand overlooking a pile of rust - forever

....I cant be arsed anymore. Its like some of you choose to not bother reading the information, or wilfully write utter garbage.

There will be no management company as such,just a board consisting of representatives from both clubs so profits will be going directly back to the clubs. Even though I have initial reservations of how the design might be the positives will easily outweigh the negatives, less maintenance, halfing of all bills, hire of synthetic pitch and more chance to increase corporate sponsorship packages, it is the clubs that are driving this and there is absolutely zero money available for town to go it alone and stay put. There is also the community aspect this project hopefully will expand the club more ,helping develop juniors and women's teams. It is going to be a massive challenge for all involved and needs the support of all sports minded people

Reading those minutes very quickly it does appear as though the removal of and building a new grandstand at Borough Park together with the laying of a new artificial pitch will cost 6.5 million. Any other work will only commence once funding has been found. The stadium will be operated by a sports village company, essentially directors from Town and Reds with independent directors as well. It looks as though the proposal is to grant a long term lease to the sports village company for both borough park and Lonsdale park in return for which we would have to surrender our existing lease on Derwent Park. It doesn’t sound like there’s any financial recompense for that. I’m all for a new stadium but if the funding isn’t there now to do it properly is it going to be there in the future? Is what we will be getting worth the gamble of possible future funding? Not too sure that this is what I was expecting but hopefully the club can deal with it in the correct way.

Apparently Leon set the meeting up at Blackpool Beach.....

I'd take any new stadium than have the club keep the financial burden that is derwent park.. we just cant afford it

Decent player. Certainly looks like they'll have a stronger squad than West Wales and potentially Skolars this year.

A lot of flooding around Sydney. We've probably had 6"-8" of rain in the last week. This picture is near my place. It's only about 200m from my house but I live on top of a hill. It's also not surprising to see this much water as this stretch of road is always the first to go under. In the last 10 years they've built a new road and bridge 100m away so this flooding isn't important. Only a few people live there because it's zoned non-residential so people live in caravans on bush blocks. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/sydney-rain-to-continue-hundreds-evacuated/100877162

Good one Probably More like A south Leeds bus shelter the way things are going

If your new grandstand is something like the south leeds stadium one it'll be a very good la stadium

a figure of 8.5m was mentioned at our agm of already being in place, with other funding sources potentially available. I think we need to wait and see what both sets of directors come up with.

So a Sports Village Company is to be formed and made responsible for the management and day to day running of the facility ? 1. Will there be a Manager appointed with paid salary ? 2. Will there be a full time team of paid employee's to run the stadium ? 3. What will be the cost of this ? 4. How will the end users be charged for this ? 5. Will the Management company collect the gate receipts and sale of season tickets and then deduct their costs, before giving the balance to the end users (clubs). 6. Sale of matchday food and drink, would probably not be passed onto end users ? Once such a facility becomes a community stadium, it becomes political issue, and the majority of Council Tax payers will not want to support a project that increases their bills.

Well having scanned through the 500 or so pages of town deal funding from yesterday's council executive meeting it seems you dont get a lot for 6.5 million pounds these days ,although really appreciate the efforts of the directors who will be involved in jumping through hoops to achieve a workable solution

Hodgson became the player he was in the NRL. Maybe SL fans are bias towards their own league.

PTBs in the men's game hgg are becoming increasingly sloppy and being condoned by referees. In the women's game here PTBs are enacted to the rules on almost every occasion. Why the men cannot emulate the women in this area is a question to be asked.

Or maybe it’s just your anti NRL bias but I think you’ll find plenty of knowledgeable non Wigan RL fans rated Sutton be he left these shores. Is not playing for a “top” Superleague club a deciding factor in judging the quality of a player ?.Maybe we should limit England selection to only include Saints,Wigan,Wire,Leeds players then.

Its good when average SL players like Sutton or Hodgson go to the NRL and do well as they are no real loss to SL (they weren't classed as top players when they left) and are maybe more suited to NRL than SL. Would be good if Pryce could be tied up for an other 2 years by Hudds and then once he's developed he can go to the NRL- at the moment he's too young and could end up playing reserve grade in the NRL rather than SL level.

Sad news about the vultures around Pryce. We need to find a way to stop the talent flow, particularly given the NRL’s hostility to the rest of the world.

I think we have been spoiled with Burgess x3, Graham, Bateman, Whitehead etc. tearing it up in the NRL. Thompson is doing okay - it always feels like he could offer more - but he is still a strong performer for the dogs. Sutton at the Raiders is also doing a sound job. To be a valuable first grader in the NRL shows you can play.

Like the NHM, a mobile museum could be a good supplement but the not the actual museum itself. Room for both, I imagine.

RE: The stadium - It states they will only build the grandstand - nothing else it states in item 9.04 "The first phase of development to be funded through the Town Deal would be based on a partial redevelopment of Borough Park and primarily involve the demolition and replacement of a new stand in its place. The existing playing surface would be replaced with a new synthetic pitch which will allow for the increased use of the pitch by both clubs as well as offering potential for increase usage outside of match days". item 9.31 "The Sports Village Company will be responsible for raising the additional funding necessary to deliver future phases of development." So looking after what we currently have is not that expensive now, is it So they are going to build the grandstand only the other 3 sides will have to be paid for by Town and Reds in future or stay as a one stand ground - half of what we have now at DP But at least Reds will be ok as i have said all along - they will get their stand back.

From what I can make out it is basically going to be a new grandstand at borough park and a synthetic pitch, the rest of the ground stays same until other money becomes available. Work possibly to start September 2023 and open a year later .Really complicated read and still a hell of a lot of work to be done by essentially volunteers as the council seem to be taking a step back. If you go on allerdale council website ,meetings then executive you should see the documents from 1st march meeting, see what you make of it