Brian McDermott's Big City Team League

[Oliver Clothesoff]

When are the fixtures out for Mad Mac’s Made Up World League? I want to know when to book flights for Barca v LA. 

[Gooleboy]

Just now, Oliver Clothesoff said:

When are the fixtures out for Mad Mac’s Made Up World League? I want to know when to book flights for Barca v LA. 

Fantasy Island would be an ideal venue!

[Private Baldrick]

15 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

No, a club needs to have the inherent potential to grow, sponsors to be signed, fans to be attracted, plus the investment to make it possible. 

Ah, right, so ANY club then. Cheers.

[Private Baldrick]

1 minute ago, scotchy1 said:

No, just the clubs I described. 

Yes I know, ANY club. Unless of course you have concrete evidence to the contrary on a club. If you have, care to share it?

[solly]

7 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

You're an Aussie ? , Of course , there's nothing I can tell you about anything , I should have known 

Digging holes is hard work. Or easy, depending on who has the shovel. 

[solly]

6 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

Just my experience of life , the Aussie brain is I have found just superior in every way , they literally know everything about everything

Not the Aussie brains that I know. 

[Private Baldrick]

1 minute ago, scotchy1 said:

I sincerely hope you are true and that fev can operate at a big club level.

But I dont think you believe that is possible any more than I do

Then you think wrong.

[MADREDNIGE]

2 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

Unlikely in 15 years , to achieve anything like that would require very large investment right now 

You can bet Toronto Wolfpack won't be around in 15 years. 

[Eddie]

29 minutes ago, SL17 said:

Any club can operate at an higher level with investment. Success draws sponsors the fan base increases. Is not hard, it just needs investment..

It is hard, throwing money at something doesn’t guarantee fans. 

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, MADREDNIGE said:

You can bet Toronto Wolfpack won't be around in 15 years. 

I hope they are 

[MADREDNIGE]

Just now, GUBRATS said:

I hope they are 

Me as well and i hope they do well in SL its going to be a very interesting season. 

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

It is hard, throwing money at something doesn’t guarantee fans. 

Scotchy does have a point , it has long been my argument that ' small town ' clubs like Leigh need to concentrate on building their fan bases if they ever want to get to and stay in the top tier , they will never draw the corporate support that big towns and city's get , they just don't have the businesses to get that support 

[Eddie]

21 pages, this thread is classic. I hope some billionaires see it and decide to set up some clubs off the back of it. 

[Gerrumonside ref]

The theory is probably quite sound that a league of big cities would be more lucrative to a broadcaster than the current set-up.

Yet to see a good roadmap though for how you get from A to B starting with the reality of where the game is now.

Transplanting club x from town y to City z is a nonstarter.  

 

[Gooleboy]

Just now, Eddie said:

21 pages, this thread is classic. I hope some billionaires see it and decide to set up some clubs off the back of it. 

They will be queuing up!

[Trojan]

4 hours ago, scotchy1 said:

Toulouse Olympique in a league with  nobody else in the same country average attendance 2488. Pathetic terrible. Rubbish

Featherstone rovers in a league where most clubs are within an hour or two average attendance 2235. Brilliant, shows the potential of the club.

 

But you said they were in another league compared to Fev.  They're not.  I've been there. Toulouse is a big city.  A big city devoted to its Union club.  There's a great bar there called The Melting Pot.  Full of Rugby memorabilia, Rugby Union memorabilia.  They made us welcome, but we were there out of the Union season.

Rugby League is a popular sport in France (south of Paris)  Rugby Union is a religion

[RobertAM]

Toronto will be around along with Ottawa, NY, plus Montreal and Philadelphia. We'll be fine over here, we will do our best to raise their profile when we play them by encouraging large crowds, suggest you worry about your local clubs maybe by doing the same thing.

[Kayakman]

4 hours ago, solly said:

Digging holes is hard work. Or easy, depending on who has the shovel. 

I have my PHD in (P)ost (H)ole (Digging) from the University of Hard Farm Knocks.  Mostly always did it by hand with a bar and pick and shovel...only job where you start at the top and work your way down.

[Kayakman]

1 minute ago, SL17 said:

Not much use in -25 yet you all still seem to get work.

There are several ways to work frozen ground...pour boiling water on it and then pick and shovel....then more boiling water and more pick and shovel....can also use a jack hammer...there are other ways.

First Law Of The Paddle:

"Where there is a will there is always a way."

[Omott91]

11 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

Just my experience of life , the Aussie brain is I have found just superior in every way , they literally know everything about everything

Says someone who comes from a country who voted for Brexit. That's working well for you.

[Kayakman]

14 minutes ago, SL17 said:

Plastic does'nt freeze.. I guess they close the airport also, no way in,no way out..

You know I was replying to your first comment and then I posted and then you edited your comment to include the pitch.

You have to learn to get it right the first time SL17!

Your punishment is writing, on this board 100 times:" Toronto is good and Canada is even better!"

Get to work; thats an order.

[RobertAM]

50 minutes ago, SL17 said:

You are speculating, not fact. Large crowds don't support what is actually needed. Thats called players! Do you have any?

Everyone saying the opposite is speculating..all we can do as we cannot predict the future. Guess we will have to see in 15 years on existence, players   indeed every aspect. see you in 2035

[The Parksider]

8 hours ago, Angelic Cynic said:

 The thoughts of Super League bosses don't seem to go far beyond keeping all the money themselves.  Most people recognise that developing players takes a number of years.Even the transferring of skills from one of the rugby codes to the other requires time,even from the more proficient of players. Toronto will be left standing in 15 years time by which time they will be left producing a higher number of players than other areas that produced them over past decades.

The "15 years" is just the excuse to kick the can down the road, Given you need 100 talented RL kids to find a quality professional or two amongst them then you need thousands playing, and that's a lot of kids needed to be playing RL in Canada. How do you get them playing it anyway when there is nowhere to play it and nobody to organise and coach it? Of course there's Canada Rugby Union where Canada kids do go and play so the rival code has all the players and always will. The TWP owner doesn't have the lifetime left to see anything come to fruition on the player front, his ex-sidekick Perez simply says "It's not easy" when asked about where will RL players come from in Canada. McDermott himself says he'll be too old to ever see it if anything did happen, or do much about it.

Then there's the idea the "first" Canada RL player may take 15 years to appear, so that's still 29 more required for a full squad all still having to come from here in 2035.  

But that's a tough ask anyway as the new SKY deal is less money take it or leave it, at which point SL will have no commitment to include TWP anyway, their current inclusion being agreed with the RFL only as part of the severance deal between SL and RFL. In the new SKY deal SL can choose who they want in Superleague as McManus said on behalf of the clubs they didn't want a phoney Canadian club now, and they rightly won't give them a penny now from this deal. Why would they choose them next time? They don't like them.

The only way another Canaian club can come about is if there are people in Canada wanting to spend 3 years losing £10,000,000 in the process. Sure the dyed in the wool Aussie RL enthusiast is happy to do that but why would any Canadian want to do that??

So TWP are not wanted, and it's not long before it will be all change for the new SKY deal when the Superleague may be down to 10 clubs as they tried to organise for last January. TWP won't be in there unless your naive enough to believe Superleague will part company with Cas, or Fartown or Huddersfield etc? so what is the point of Ottawa or New York starting up or even Montreal or Vancouver whom Perez says have rung him? I think he's hearing voices in his head don't you??

Against this massive wall of evidence that there is no transatlantic league to come and no Superleague bosses want TWP, and won't give them any share of any money how do you manage to even suggest ....

"Toronto will be left standing in 15 years time by which time they will be left producing a higher number of players"

This isn't debate, this is fantasy RL in which the reality of SL bosses openly saying they don't want TWP and openly not giving them a penny of the TV money is totally ignored along with the reality that the reduced SKY deal will take away £Thousands of SKY funding from league one and Championship clubs effectively killing them off. But somehow in your head you manage to see all these Canadian clubs joining and developing the Canadian RL game there despite it being crystal clear the only NA "club" that exists isn't wanted by SL clubs or a big majority of fans here,  as polls suggest, so why would anyone else in Canada bother to set anything up at such massive costs? 

[Kayakman]

22 minutes ago, SL17 said:

Does the airport close? Answer the question..

What the hell are you talking about?

[Kayakman]

17 minutes ago, The Parksider said:

why would anyone else in Canada bother to set anything up at such massive costs? 

 

Because we love ya and we are coming to save ya.  We are here to help ya and there is nuttin ya can do about it cause we loves ya and that is why we intends to take yas over.....yas opened up da door to us and lets us in...so now we is in and plannin to take yas all over...because we loves ya and we is gonna saves ya no matters what.

That is why.