coronavirus

[gazza77 806]

4 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

I don't know if a rich owner owns it but Britannia hotels have offered all their estate to the NHS as extended hospital facilities.  No mention of money changing hands so hopefully they won't be charging and of course nobody will be using the hotels as nobody can travel but even so, it's a good thing to put their buildings to good use, if (perish the thought) such extra space is needed.

One of the things that should be coming in to effect in the next few days is the offer to NHS staff who have family self isolating is that they can move to a hotel, then keep working if they are tested and clear, or at worst only wait 7 rather than 14 days to return. This sort of offer will support this. 

[Futtocks 13,953]

2 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

I've been popping in Sainsburys most days (10 mins walk from home and its getting me outside) to grab a sandwich, etc.  It's notable how the low stock is moving through the store.  Loads of fresh veg on sun, none by tues.  Different aisles are hit.  

Similar for me; I live about 5 minutes' walk from my nearest Sainsbury's (built on the site of a building I used to work in). So I just pick up what I want from what's there at the time. For those who are a drive away from a supermarket, though, the idiot panic-buying must be enraging them.

I went in today, hoping to get some spare ribs for Friday evening, but pork was almost sold out apart from loin fillets, so I bought some duck legs instead. I can make a fine meal from them, but you have to pick fro what is on the shelves 'til the panicky nitwits' attention span wanes and they start besieging the petrol stations instead.

[redjonn 1,138]

1 hour ago, SSoutherner said:

just come back form ASDA where the anti bulk buying rules and people  are truly stupid

3 4 packs of beans - Good

4 cans of beans BAD

That was the guy in front of me who when stopped from getting 4 tins got 12 instead to prove a point but the next is me

1 18 pack of strongbow, no issue

4 bottles of beer in the 4 for £6 deal - sorry sir that is 4 items the same - to which i said "no it is 4 different beers, i havent noticed you stopping people buying 4 different packs of crisps and it costs more to by 3 than 4 due to your deal - she let me off "this time"

I also saw a lady knocking down an entire crate of punnets of blueberries to 10p, when someone tried to take 4 she said "3 items maximum" even when he pointed out she was knocking them down as  no one wanted them

Also entirely empty bread aisle apart form knock down 10p french bread batons on the fresh bakery 

 

ok ok..

at least the supermarket is trying to do the right thing... and trying to keep it simple by simple rules for a complex equation of so many products...that could be clearly communicated.

Then expecting the staff on the counters to enforce the rules... the last thing the counter staff want smart back side dick heads coming along to explain to them why the rules don't make sense.. when all their trying to do is limit buying...

If smart back-side people went along with the goal and made decisions to help the goal then all would be fine...

Edited March 18 by redjonn

[Bedford Roughyed 7,403]

Sometimes companies surprise you.  I always thought of home bargains being a cheap stack them high sell low type company.

 

[SSoutherner 2,007]

24 minutes ago, redjonn said:

ok ok..

at least the supermarket is trying to do the right thing... and trying to keep it simple by simple rules for a complex equation of so many products...that could be clearly communicated.

Then expecting the staff on the counters to enforce the rules... the last thing the counter staff want smart back side dick heads coming along to explain to them why the rules don't make sense.. when all their trying to do is limit buying...

If smart back-side people went along with the goal and made decisions to help the goal then all would be fine...

the point in neither he nor me were stockpiling - 4 cans of beans is not weird (we get through 2 at a sitting) and neither is getting 4 bottles of beer that are in a 4 for £6 deal. Meanwhile the person with 3 of every available cereal left on the shelves is scanned through unhindered as were all those self scanning

[Smudger06 716]

Finished work at 8pm, drove around for 1 hour and 45 minutes, 6 shops / supermarkets. Just to get my 2 daughters milk for breakfast in the morning & pack lunch stuff for school dinner. Failed to get bread! 

I'm still confident these selfish m@therf@@kers will run out of cash / storage space in the next couple of days combined with a ramping up of supply chains will result in normal working people been able to get the essentials for the last 12 days of the month. Come April the cycle will probably start again. 

People need to keep calm and just buy what they need and what they usually get! Show a bit of community spirit and respect for others. We are all in this together. 

[Celt 839]

3 hours ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Timing is important as well as actions. To quote from the IC report:

"Introducing such interventions too early risks allowing transmission to return once they are lifted (if insufficient herd immunity has developed); it is therefore necessary to balance the timing of introduction with the scale of disruption imposed and the likely period over which the interventions can be maintained."
 

You believe that?

Every other country has gone down a different route, and the UK appears to be about-turning in the face of criticism.

[Bedford Roughyed 7,403]

 

[Dave T 16,781]

1 hour ago, Smudger06 said:

Finished work at 8pm, drove around for 1 hour and 45 minutes, 6 shops / supermarkets. Just to get my 2 daughters milk for breakfast in the morning & pack lunch stuff for school dinner. Failed to get bread! 

I'm still confident these selfish m@therf@@kers will run out of cash / storage space in the next couple of days combined with a ramping up of supply chains will result in normal working people been able to get the essentials for the last 12 days of the month. Come April the cycle will probably start again. 

People need to keep calm and just buy what they need and what they usually get! Show a bit of community spirit and respect for others. We are all in this together. 

We can't buy what we usually get. We now no longer buy lunch and breakfast at work 5 days a week. My daughter won't be getting her lunch and breakfast at nursery.  We won't be eating out once a week, we won't be ordering a takeaway every week or two. 

All those changes mean we need to order a lot more food in our shop. 

[Kayakman 5,264]

12 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

 

Just woke up after a hard day of drinking 151 proof Jamaican Rum all afternoon.  Was with he neighbour today and checking out supplies,,,have the .223 for anyone that comes into the general vicinity uninvited....have my favourite 30 30 for anyone that comes closer and then a 9 mm for up close ops...also a Lakefield 12 gauge shotgun.   Lots of ammo but could use a little more.  Carrying a large blade with bear spray on my belt at all times.

We are ready....we are ready.

Edited March 19 by Kayakman

[Futtocks 13,953]

1 hour ago, Smudger06 said:

Finished work at 8pm, drove around for 1 hour and 45 minutes, 6 shops / supermarkets. Just to get my 2 daughters milk for breakfast in the morning & pack lunch stuff for school dinner. Failed to get bread! 

I'm still confident these selfish m@therf@@kers will run out of cash / storage space in the next couple of days combined with a ramping up of supply chains will result in normal working people been able to get the essentials for the last 12 days of the month. Come April the cycle will probably start again. 

People need to keep calm and just buy what they need and what they usually get! Show a bit of community spirit and respect for others. We are all in this together. 

Payday for the selfish m@therf@@kers will come at the end of the month, and they'll splurge again. Because they are the problem, but think they are avoiding the problem.

There was someone from a supermarket chain on the radio today, saying that all the preparation they did for the Brexit sh!tshow helped them be far more ready for this panicky nonsense than they might otherwise have been.

Edited March 19 by Futtocks

[Smudger06 716]

19 minutes ago, Dave T said:

We can't buy what we usually get. We now no longer buy lunch and breakfast at work 5 days a week. My daughter won't be getting her lunch and breakfast at nursery.  We won't be eating out once a week, we won't be ordering a takeaway every week or two. 

All those changes mean we need to order a lot more food in our shop. 

When you say you are ordering a lot more food, what does that mean? 3 months worth? 6 months worth? A years worth? Then you are part of the problem. If you are talking a weekly shop for a family, or even a monthly at a stretch if you really must then fair do's. 

[Bearman 4,024]

29 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

Just woke up after a hard day of drinking 151 proof Jamaican Rum all afternoon.  Was with he neighbour today and checking out supplies,,,have the .223 for anyone that comes into the general vicinity uninvited....have my favourite 30 30 for anyone that comes closer and then a 9 mm for up close ops...also a Lakefield 12 gauge shotgun.   Lots of ammo but could use a little more.  Carrying a large blade with bear spray on my belt at all times.

We are ready....we are ready.

My rain check to come to yours is still ok I hope.

 

[Dave T 16,781]

9 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

When you say you are ordering a lot more food, what does that mean? 3 months worth? 6 months worth? A years worth? Then you are part of the problem. If you are talking a weekly shop for a family, or even a monthly at a stretch if you really must then fair do's. 

Well I thought my post explained what extra food I was buying. Around an extra 30 meals per week. 

[redsi42 98]

On 16/03/2020 at 21:34, Wolford6 said:

 

[redsi42 98]

so we’re heading for immanent lock down here in Manchester. London is likely to happen first but I’ve been told by close friends in the police, banking and military Manchester will follow soon.  Only essential service will be open and it’s likely to last till April 16th.  Hope your all ok.  supermarkets and banks will remain open.  Supermarket will be better stocked  they are now but will restrict access and implement sickest distancing measures.  We’ll all have enough food and loo roll to get though this but will we still have a job?

Edited March 19 by redsi42

[Bedford Roughyed 7,403]

54 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Well I thought my post explained what extra food I was buying. Around an extra 30 meals per week. 

I’m similar gone from around 10 meals from Sainsbury’s to 21.  Not bought any pasta or bog roll mind you!

[Copa 4,377]

[Johnoco 7,342]

Up for work but don’t know whether to go shopping instead.

[Copa 4,377]

Australia has closed its borders to all non-residents and non-citizens.

Edited March 19 by Copa

[Copa 4,377]

25 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

Up for work but don’t know whether to go shopping instead.

I went to go shopping before work but the line was 150m long to get into the small ALDI.

[Saintslass 3,810]

6 hours ago, Celt said:

You believe that?

Every other country has gone down a different route, and the UK appears to be about-turning in the face of criticism.

They aren't about turning at all.  Did you listen to the first press conference?  I did.  Right from the outset the PM and the scientists all said that what we are doing now is exactly what we might be doing at some point.  The modelling changed due to the information coming out of Italy updating on the percentage of critical people who need ventilation and the rate of spread has been quicker than the modelling initially suggested.  Imperial College is where the modelling has been done throughout.

 

[Bob8 6,505]

11 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

They aren't about turning at all.  Did you listen to the first press conference?  I did.  Right from the outset the PM and the scientists all said that what we are doing now is exactly what we might be doing at some point.  The modelling changed due to the information coming out of Italy updating on the percentage of critical people who need ventilation and the rate of spread has been quicker than the modelling initially suggested.  Imperial College is where the modelling has been done throughout.

I agree. DIfferent countries have different circumstances and different populations. Britain is surrounded by sea, Denmark is a tiny country with strong welfare state, the hUSA is huge and lacks a centralised health service. They cannot and should not act the same.

I am concerned at the lack of testing, as the UK was ready for that some years ago. But, the UK has merely reduced to more noral levels of being prepared.

[Dave T 16,781]

5 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

I’m similar gone from around 10 meals from Sainsbury’s to 21.  Not bought any pasta or bog roll mind you!

Yeah, haven't seen toilet roll or paracetamol for a while now. But had we bought our normal amount last time (4 rolls) we would have been short at a time when all at home together. We got 18 because there were no 4 packs. 

But the supermarkets at the time were telling us they had loads and just buy normal amounts. 

[Dave T 16,781]

4 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

I agree. DIfferent countries have different circumstances and different populations. Britain is surrounded by sea, Denmark is a tiny country with strong welfare state, the hUSA is huge and lacks a centralised health service. They cannot and should not act the same.

I am concerned at the lack of testing, as the UK was ready for that some years ago. But, the UK has merely reduced to more noral levels of being prepared.

Bob, I saw some curves yesterday that make us look almost identical to Italy, just a couple of weeks behind, yet we had the advantage of more knowledge and an apparently younger demographic (and one that lives apart from older people in general). Based on the radical actions we took (going against pretty much everyone else, and the specific WHO advice), wouldn't we have hoped for some better results than we are getting?

Even just based on the two advantages above, if they are genuine advantages we should have seen better results than Italy - if our results are the same or worse, couldn't it be said that is down to our approach? 

I accept this is flawed as not all other things are like for like, but all the things that explained Italy's high impact seem to still impact us.