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If England vs Australia was still going ahead what would your pack be.

I'm just sat watching Tom Burgess destroying the Broncos and it got me thinking how good our pack would be

Mine provisionally would be

Tom Burgess 

Daryl Clark

Alex Walmsley

John Bateman

Elliot Whitehead

Luke Thompson

 

I'll probably change my mind a bit once some other people put their first choice pack on here

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I'd like to see Liam Watts given a chance. 

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1 hour ago, JM2010 said:

If England vs Australia was still going ahead what would your pack be.

I'm just sat watching Tom Burgess destroying the Broncos and it got me thinking how good our pack would be

Mine provisionally would be

Tom Burgess 

Daryl Clark

Alex Walmsley

John Bateman

Elliot Whitehead

Luke Thompson

 

I'll probably change my mind a bit once some other people put their first choice pack on here

Hodgson? Roby? 

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I was going to say Hodgson but opted

1 minute ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Hodgson? Roby? 

I was going to say Hodgson but opted for Clarke. He's injured so didn't include him. If he was fully fit I'd probably start with Hodgson, especially as he'll now have a good understanding with Williams 

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1 hour ago, JM2010 said:

If England vs Australia was still going ahead what would your pack be.

I'm just sat watching Tom Burgess destroying the Broncos and it got me thinking how good our pack would be

Mine provisionally would be

Tom Burgess 

Daryl Clark

Alex Walmsley

John Bateman

Elliot Whitehead

Luke Thompson

 

I'll probably change my mind a bit once some other people put their first choice pack on here

That’s not bad mind !

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4 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

I'd start with Watts over Burgess any day

Burgess is in good form at the moment and would get us on the front foot against the Aussie forwards. If I was picking Watts it would be instead of Walmsley 

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13 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

Burgess is in good form at the moment and would get us on the front foot against the Aussie forwards. If I was picking Watts it would be instead of Walmsley 

I’d bring Walmsley off the bench; start Watts potentially. 

Who else is in the frame though? I’ve been impressed by Sutton since his move to Canberra; developing nicely. George Burgess is he returns to form? Other possibles going forward...

Matty English - Scott Taylor - Josh Bowden - Rob Mulhern - Alex Mellor - Matty Lees - Mike Cooper - Ben Currie - Morgan Smithies...

Not lots of depth at the moment IMO. Likely missed a few but not far off wrong. Hooker worries me moving forward as well...

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If I had to argue I’d be looking for a loose forward , but I’m not sure who that’d be right now 

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5 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

I'd start with Watts over Burgess any day

It's an absolute no brainer. Burgess has been nothing short of pathetic for Wigan. 

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5 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

 

Matty English - Scott Taylor - Josh Bowden - Rob Mulhern - Alex Mellor - Matty Lees - Mike Cooper - Ben Currie - Morgan Smithies...

The majority of these players are a poor standard for international level 

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I think we are going to be weak in the pack going forward. I just can’t see who we’re going to have that’s real quality at that level, where are the next James Graham, Sam Burgess, Adrian Morley, Jamie Peacock, Gareth Ellis, Andy Farrell, Paul Sculthorpe, Kevin Sinfield, Sean O’loughlin type players? 

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13 minutes ago, Hullfan said:

It's an absolute no brainer. Burgess has been nothing short of pathetic for Wigan. 

We're talking about Tom

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7 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

I'd start with Watts over Burgess any day

Nah I'm convinced every time I watch Watts that he's just a flat track bully and would be exposed by the Aussies and Kiwis big time. I don't think he has the other attributes (handling skills and leadership) to compensate for that either.

If we played a Euro championship with England every year against the Home Nations and France I think that would be his level

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Think Roby is still the best player in SL so should always be in the England team but changing with Clark through the game.

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8 hours ago, JM2010 said:

I rate Liam Watts but would you pick him oved Walmsley or Burgess?

I think i would. I'd have Burgess come off the bench, hopefully, for a bit of impact. Tom's looked good in patches at Souths this year, with some good yards, but i still feel he plays below his potential. And he's still a clumsy so and so with ball in hand.

I think Watts offers more, though still has elements of his game that need work. And is more like the type of prop the current style of the game requires. IMO. If that makes sense.

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1 minute ago, EastLondonMike said:

I think i would. I'd have Burgess come off the bench, hopefully, for a bit of impact. Tom's looked good in patches at Souths this year, with some good yards, but i still feel he plays below his potential. And he's still a clumsy so and so with ball in hand.

I think Watts offers more. And is more like the type of prop the current style of the game requires. If that makes sense.

Yeah Watts is more of a ball player. A good pack should have big mobile yardage makers with at least a couple of creative players in there 

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44 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said:

I think i would. I'd have Burgess come off the bench, hopefully, for a bit of impact. Tom's looked good in patches at Souths this year, with some good yards, but i still feel he plays below his potential. And he's still a clumsy so and so with ball in hand.

I think Watts offers more, though still has elements of his game that need work. And is more like the type of prop the current style of the game requires. IMO. If that makes sense.

Tom Burgess hasn't just looked good in patches this year, he has been the dominant prop on the pitch in pretty much every game he has played.

He has also made 9 errors in 13 games which is exactly the same as Elliot Whitehead who nobody would even come close to suggesting is 'clumsy' with the ball in his hands.

It's time to stop judging people on lazy stereotypes and actually looking at their performances.

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12 hours ago, JM2010 said:

If England vs Australia was still going ahead what would your pack be.

I'm just sat watching Tom Burgess destroying the Broncos and it got me thinking how good our pack would be

Mine provisionally would be

Tom Burgess 

Daryl Clark

Alex Walmsley

John Bateman

Elliot Whitehead

Luke Thompson

 

I'll probably change my mind a bit once some other people put their first choice pack on here

I think, on form, Tom Burgess and Walmsley should both be in the seventeen, but I wouldn't necessarily want them on the pitch at the same time. 


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3 hours ago, Mr Frisky said:

Think Roby is still the best player in SL so should always be in the England team but changing with Clark through the game.

Certainly at his peak but not now. Clark has been heir apparent for Roby, now he is the best. 

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Thompson should be fresh anyway, unless I blinked or went for a drink I can’t remember him running  it in until well into the second half today

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2 hours ago, Dunbar said:

Tom Burgess hasn't just looked good in patches this year, he has been the dominant prop on the pitch in pretty much every game he has played.

He has also made 9 errors in 13 games which is exactly the same as Elliot Whitehead who nobody would even come close to suggesting is 'clumsy' with the ball in his hands.

It's time to stop judging people on lazy stereotypes and actually looking at their performances.

I'm not judging him on any stereotype. Only on what I've seen in games. You may feel he's the dominant prop and that's fine. I don't.


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