Daryl Powell

[LeeF]

26 minutes ago, Gates1 said:

Yeah I just find the later post game interviews more telling, particularly in light of the OP's question.  The coach has had time to get over the initial disappointment which usually comes out straight away.

He is clearly unhappy with the officiating and rightly so in my opinion, but some on here seem to be suggest he is blinkered about it and his own teams performances.

He is blinkered about it and the level of officiating, as discussed on this forum on numerous occasions , isn’t anywhere near as bad as he or you makes out.

BTW what did you make of Blair knocking on and then just standing there watching the Giants player pick the ball up and run 60 metres plus? Now that was truly awful and unacceptable and probably the worse decision of the entire game by anybody involved

[daz39]

2 hours ago, LeeF said:

Not for the first time Powell was bang out of order and yet again wrong. He needs to look in the mirror and address the basic mistakes and simple errors his players make before blaming anyone else

The RFL should be ensuring that his wallet is much lighter for his comments yesterday

If you read the Casforum they are even saying the one where Blair just stood and let Wardle pick it up was the ref's fault as he should have blown for a handover rather than play on as Blair apparently made the ball dead as eh touched it on it's way down - he's even got into their minds !!

[LeeF]

Just now, daz39 said:

If you read the Casforum they are even saying the one where Blair just stood and let Wardle pick it up was the ref's fault as he should have blown for a handover rather than play on as Blair apparently made the ball dead as eh touched it on it's way down - he's even got into their minds !!

Tell me that’s a wind up? There are some really stupid folk out there

[Gates1]

8 minutes ago, daz39 said:

If you read the Casforum they are even saying the one where Blair just stood and let Wardle pick it up was the ref's fault as he should have blown for a handover rather than play on as Blair apparently made the ball dead as eh touched it on it's way down - he's even got into their minds !!

Are they?

Or has one person posted that technically that is the rule, with most saying Blair just needs to play to the refs call.

[daz39]

5 minutes ago, LeeF said:

Tell me that’s a wind up? There are some really stupid folk out there

Nope !

 

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Actually, after Blair knocked on, the moment he touches the ball again, which he does before Wardle picks it up, the ball is dead and a handover should’ve been the call.

That was a bad call by the referee.

 

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Whilst it looked bad, Blair doesn’t have to “drop on the ball”. Like touching the ball down in goal, once he touched the ball after the knock on, the ball is classed as dead. It should’ve been a play the ball.

 

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So these professional full time referees don’t actually know the rules.

 

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However, how many times do you see a player knock on and then just put their hand on the ball?

As I said, it looks bad but, had the rules been applied correctly, a play the ball where the knock on occurred was the right call.

To be fair there's others calling Blair out for not picking it up but some of the comments later on could have been written by Powell himself they are that cringeworthy.
 

[PEANUT HEAD]

3 hours ago, Eddie said:

Anyone know what going on with Cas’ new ground by the way? Not taking the p here I know it’s a long standing joke but I haven’t heard anything about it for ages. Such a shame as I think Wheldon Road is holding them back in some respects, and they could make up a big six (or seven if TWP are allowed back) if they get a nice new ground in the town. 

It will never happen.

[LeeF]

27 minutes ago, daz39 said:

Nope !

 

 

 

 

To be fair there's others calling Blair out for not picking it up but some of the comments later on could have been written by Powell himself they are that cringeworthy.
 

Wow!!

[Gates1]

1 hour ago, daz39 said:

Nope !

 

 

 

 

To be fair there's others calling Blair out for not picking it up but some of the comments later on could have been written by Powell himself they are that cringeworthy.
 

Maybe you should mention 3 of the 4 posts you quote are from the same poster?

Like I said, that view is the exception...

Let's also add a bit of context to one of the posts (posted by the poster who posted 3 of them).

[Rupert Prince]

11 hours ago, Gates1 said:

Has a point.  As I've stated on a different post:

3 consequetive games, 3 players banned for a cumulative 19 games.  From memory Cas got a single penalty from the 4 offences involved during the game (3 of the offences certainly went unpunished).

All games in telly and video ref available.

His team made to play twice in 72 hours despite having played as many games as any other SL team in a season were a win % will determine league position.

So he is justified in some criticism of recent officiating and fixtures.

In terms of his position at Cas , I'd point out:

-Cas were going well prior to lockdown, had some bad luck with fixtures and injuries (I'd question how some of the players have managed their fitness during lock down tbh).

-Wheldon Road is a fortress for Cas and a lack of home games has been a big negative.

-Cas dont have a big budget nor great youth system to call upon so he has to sign and rely on some pretty average squad players (due to financial restraints and facilities).

Despite the above points I'd question, (although Powell wont be entirely responsible):

-Contracts issued to aging players like Shenton, Moors  Millington and Cook. The first 3 are big earners and I thing should have been moved on last year or at the end of this (Moors is the only one not contracted next year).

-Lack of cover in key positions (started the season with only 2 half backs)

-Apparent reluctance to give young players game time (Hodgeson, limited minutes for O Neil and Hepi)

I think your comments are fair ones. They did seem to fade at the end possibly with injuries and they had a short turn a round.  Clarke pointed out the inconsistencies of the 6-again after the game.

Its a much used word, but focus is really important and for various reasons Cas are a bit short.

[Gates1]

5 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said:

I think your comments are fair ones. They did seem to fade at the end possibly with injuries and they had a short turn a round.  Clarke pointed out the inconsistencies of the 6-again after the game.

Its a much used word, but focus is really important and for various reasons Cas are a bit short.

I think the 6 again rule has changed the game a fair bit  Cas haven't adapted too it at all and, as you say seem to lose focus/concentration at key times in games.  The defensive lapse at the end of the wire game was an unforgivable example.

[yipyee]

Im not a big fan of his but its rare for a coach to publicly slate a player or players, i am sure there will be several getting pulled up over their errors non more so than was it clare who stopped playing after a knock on only for hudds to run almost full length!

[yipyee]

12 hours ago, daz39 said:

Well i can't really think of any bad calls that went against his team tonight, or mine if i'm honest - apart from the ones he or his players made.

He's a sore loser and has turned into one of those fans on social media who ALWAYS blames the ref when his team loses.

He's starting to become an embarrassment.

Pack it in Daryl 

There was a knock on missed, and offside that wasnt offside and a few ball steals given as a knock on

There are a few wrong calls in every game but for me we cant expect the refs to be flawless even more so now that the six again means a faster game.

No one has ever mentioned the effect of this on the ref, not just for a breather but to actually be able to stop and think, he will only get seconds before theres more action to watch/adjudge.

 

[Rupert Prince]

we now see players taking up the full permissible 10 or 30 secs at a stoppage as well now.

Dont worry, the Aussies will change that rule as well

The ref. should control the game and not have these artificial 'fake' rules.

I think Blair(?) was a bit unlucky with his miss.

[LeeF]

11 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said:

we now see players taking up the full permissible 10 or 30 secs at a stoppage as well now.

Dont worry, the Aussies will change that rule as well

The ref. should control the game and not have these artificial 'fake' rules.

I think Blair(?) was a bit unlucky with his miss.

You do remember why the stop clock was introduced don’t you? It was to stop players from faking injuries to allow stoppages in play that were a lot longer than the ones in place now. And yes they were coached to do that by their coaches

[dkw]

Actually, what is the rule on that Blair thing? Ignoring the fact he should definitely have grabbed it the silly sod, is it contact or full control thats needed to make it dead?

[Bedfordshire Bronco]

14 hours ago, TheDuke said:

Over the last season or so I’ve noticed a marked change in Powell, I think he’s ran out of ideas now and is always looking for someone to blame.....

has he outstayed his welcome at Cas ? 

Was he blaming the ref in that Cryptic comment last night? Was unclear 

[LeeF]

21 minutes ago, dkw said:

Actually, what is the rule on that Blair thing? Ignoring the fact he should definitely have grabbed it the silly sod, is it contact or full control thats needed to make it dead?

Regather and keep it not letting it lay there for someone to pick up

[saddleworth]

7 hours ago, dkw said:

I think its both, he does have a point about the referees being poor but thats partly down to the speed of the game now and also partly down to the players constantly trying to con them. 

But he shouldn't be bringing this up after every defeat, its defeatist and does him and his team no good. Take the defeat on the chin, decisions went the way of both teams as they generally usually do.

I am getting rather miffed off with comments about "the speed of the game". our game is cumbersome compared to the NRL. The speed of the game is ultimately governed by the official,  laying on being one of the prime causes. The performance of the bulk of officials leaves a lot to be desired at times. Not many years ago they were presented with salary increases, the opportunities to become full time professionals and receive the 100% support of the RL organisation. I honestly think that the above measures have not produced the professionalism and skills which were fully expected from the officials.

[bobbruce]

2 hours ago, dkw said:

Actually, what is the rule on that Blair thing? Ignoring the fact he should definitely have grabbed it the silly sod, is it contact or full control thats needed to make it dead?

As far as I’m aware it’s advantage so until any advantage is over its play on. 

[Phil]

56 minutes ago, saddleworth said:

I am getting rather miffed off with comments about "the speed of the game". our game is cumbersome compared to the NRL. The speed of the game is ultimately governed by the official,  laying on being one of the prime causes. The performance of the bulk of officials leaves a lot to be desired at times. Not many years ago they were presented with salary increases, the opportunities to become full time professionals and receive the 100% support of the RL organisation. I honestly think that the above measures have not produced the professionalism and skills which were fully expected from the officials.

As I’ve said many times and will no doubt say again, give it a go, there’s always vacancies for officials 

[Rupert Prince]

3 hours ago, LeeF said:

You do remember why the stop clock was introduced don’t you? It was to stop players from faking injuries to allow stoppages in play that were a lot longer than the ones in place now. And yes they were coached to do that by their coaches

We still get injuries and fake one as well.  From whst I see, we the trainers are onto the pitch lime lightning.

But my point about running down the clock is that players use it to get a breather, and of course conversly if a team used to find a reason to not  pack down the ref could call time off.

[LeeF]

3 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said:

We still get injuries and fake one as well.  From whst I see, we the trainers are onto the pitch lime lightning.

But my point about running down the clock is that players use it to get a breather, and of course conversly if a team used to find a reason to not  pack down the ref could call time off.

We only stop for injuries which would interfere with play or where the Doctor states it is a more serious injury eg a head injury etc

The breathers are now shorter and more controlled 

[Gooleboy]

11 hours ago, Eddie said:

Anyone know what going on with Cas’ new ground by the way? Not taking the p here I know it’s a long standing joke but I haven’t heard anything about it for ages. Such a shame as I think Wheldon Road is holding them back in some respects, and they could make up a big six (or seven if TWP are allowed back) if they get a nice new ground in the town. 

At the moment, they have more chance of breaking the speed barrier on a pushbike.

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

2 hours ago, bobbruce said:

As far as I’m aware it’s advantage so until any advantage is over its play on. 

Yep, basically until the referee decides the non offending side has not gained an advantage, it's play on.

[dkw]

9 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Yep, basically until the referee decides the non offending side has not gained an advantage, it's play on.

Cheers gents, for some reason I always thought it was made dead as soon as a player from the team that knocked on touched it in any way.