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27 minutes ago, jim_57 said:

The final debate is an interesting one. I do agree that Marseille is a probably a bit too big but they should probably be aiming higher than lower 30’s (Toulouse/Montpellier) if it is going to break even or make a profit. PSG stadium is the perfect size for me at 48k but they may not want it and Paris may not be the best fit for the final. 

Toulouse FC is a lock for one of the opener, semi(s) or final. Plus one or more pool games and/or quarter final at Ernest Wallon.

A game in Paris needs to include France so I would only use the “par des princes” for the opener and nothing else.

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On this Day 21/7/1951.

1951    

The highly entertaining French touring side, inspired by the charismatic fullback Puig-Aubert, wins the Test series against Australia, with a 35-14 third Test victory. Huge crowds flock to watch the Frenchmen wherever they play. Over 67,000 people pack the SCG for the Test.

Imagine the inconvenience of having mid-season Tests.

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, voteronniegibbs said:

Let France host the next world cup, it'd be great for them to do it. Just don't invite Australia or New Zealand. 

What I'd like to see, in the run up to the next one, is some significant growth, in the Americas, stimulated by their inclusion in  this one and an ongoing relationship, including Trans-Atlantic international matches, making their involvement in France 2025 a far more evenly matched affair. For everyone's benefit. 

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2 hours ago, Scubby said:

Why were participation agreements for 2021 not signed until a few months from the competition? The French government would want major guarantees on participation before parting with any central funds.

I would assume the recent participation agreements were specifically driven by covid. 

I expect the standard IRL agreements are in place for standard year's. 

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Great news and long overdue! Hopefully they show some ambition and don't play it in tiny stadiums in villages in the South of France. 

Be great if Marseille, Montpellier, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux and St Etienne could get games. 

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13 hours ago, Dave T said:

I would assume the recent participation agreements were specifically driven by covid. 

I expect the standard IRL agreements are in place for standard year's. 

I have a feeling the NRL are going to try and change standard IRL anything going forward. It's been made quite clear that they want to run the international game and on their terms.

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5 hours ago, Damien said:

I have a feeling the NRL are going to try and change standard IRL anything going forward. It's been made quite clear that they want to run the international game and on their terms.

My interest in the game is hanging by a thread with whats happened over the last 2 or 3 years or so. If the World cup doesn't go ahead and the NRL take over the running of the IRL I'm 90% certain that's me finished with it and i don't think i will be the only one

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7 hours ago, The Future is League said:

My interest in the game is hanging by a thread with whats happened over the last 2 or 3 years or so. If the World cup doesn't go ahead and the NRL take over the running of the IRL I'm 90% certain that's me finished with it and i don't think i will be the only one

yep, I'll be another

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On 25/07/2021 at 18:49, The Future is League said:

My interest in the game is hanging by a thread with whats happened over the last 2 or 3 years or so. If the World cup doesn't go ahead and the NRL take over the running of the IRL I'm 90% certain that's me finished with it and i don't think i will be the only one

That's just about my position as well. I had just about given up on the British game after the decision of Super League to expand to, er, Leigh (isn't that going well?) but if the RLWC doesn't go ahead that's me done.

A French world cup would be superb. We went to the FIFA Women's World Cup in France in 2019, and it was great travelling from city to city, staying in various b&bs. You just couldn't plan that with RL because you'd have no idea whether the tournament would go ahead.

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On 30/07/2021 at 04:16, Methven Hornet said:

That's just about my position as well. I had just about given up on the British game after the decision of Super League to expand to, er, Leigh (isn't that going well?) but if the RLWC doesn't go ahead that's me done.

A French world cup would be superb. We went to the FIFA Women's World Cup in France in 2019, and it was great travelling from city to city, staying in various b&bs. You just couldn't plan that with RL because you'd have no idea whether the tournament would go ahead.

Sadly you are so right 

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Don't let the current WC political power struggle stop you watching games.   

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Whatever, I'll still be watching Wigan and internationals (on TV or live if I can get to any games).

will watch this years World Cup on TV and possibly live depending on Covid progress

will definitely watch it if its in France 2025, though attendance may not be possible.

 

 

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“The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.”
 Friedrich Nietzsche

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1 minute ago, Man of Kent said:

Troy Grant of the IRL said during the RLWC press conference that FFR XIII is still committed to a World Cup in France in 2025. Full speed ahead etc.

Great, but I fear this debacle will not help them in negotiations to secure government funding.

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On 25/07/2021 at 18:49, The Future is League said:

My interest in the game is hanging by a thread with whats happened over the last 2 or 3 years or so. If the World cup doesn't go ahead and the NRL take over the running of the IRL I'm 90% certain that's me finished with it and i don't think i will be the only one

You can then change your name to - 'The future is to give up'

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18 hours ago, Damien said:

A cracking article in the history of the game in France and why they should hold the 2025 World Cup:

https://www.zerotackle.com/why-a-french-rugby-league-world-cup-in-2025-makes-sense-112584/

Very informative, that's the first place I've seen the Protocol governing the game's reinstatement in France spelled out.

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21 hours ago, Damien said:

A cracking article in the history of the game in France and why they should hold the 2025 World Cup:

https://www.zerotackle.com/why-a-french-rugby-league-world-cup-in-2025-makes-sense-112584/

 

2 hours ago, Big Picture said:

Very informative, that's the first place I've seen the Protocol governing the game's reinstatement in France spelled out.

I agree that it is, overall, a good piece.  The slightly odd omission is that there is no explicit mention of the fact that the very idea of a world cup was essentially a French one. 

Maybe less surprising is the omission that the first, 1954 cup was, allegedly, almost undermined by the Australians.  I have seen it said that they threatened to pull out and were only persuaded to take part by an offer relating to travelling costs made by the French.

RL is not, of course, the only team sport in which the French have played a formative role in respect of international governance.  The international governing body for soccer still has French initials - FIFA.  The first international body for ice hockey was the LIHG - Ligue Internationale de Hockey sur Glace.

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14 minutes ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

 

I agree that it is, overall, a good piece.  The slightly odd omission is that there is no explicit mention of the fact that the very idea of a world cup was essentially a French one. 

Maybe less surprising is the omission that the first, 1954 cup was, allegedly, almost undermined by the Australians.  I have seen it said that they threatened to pull out and were only persuaded to take part by an offer relating to travelling costs made by the French.

RL is not, of course, the only team sport in which the French have played a formative role in respect of international governance.  The international governing body for soccer still has French initials - FIFA.  The first international body for ice hockey was the LIHG - Ligue Internationale de Hockey sur Glace.

FIA too 

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Just now, Big Picture said:

And FIBA, la Fédération Internationale de Basketball.  It's as if the very idea of International governing bodies for sports is of French origin.

I think Barriere also formed the IRLB.

Difficult to know whether the ‘protocol’ mentioned was actually correct as Zero Tackle don’t reference it.  Either way, it’s quite clear how restrictions were placed and continue to be placed in France, based on what contributors to thus Forum have experienced.

I wonder whether making this era (and the history thereafter) a focal point for the 2025 WC will do the French game any good.  Certainly something for debate.

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23 hours ago, Damien said:

A cracking article in the history of the game in France and why they should hold the 2025 World Cup:

https://www.zerotackle.com/why-a-french-rugby-league-world-cup-in-2025-makes-sense-112584/

I have found in the passed that most previous presidents from the FFR13 didn't want to rock the boat with the government in regards to the historical rape and pillage of the game by the Vichy regime.

Sadly a few enjoyed the privileges and freebies too much + being part of the Olympic set up.

Luc Lacoste is a self made person and on a different level and doesn't need the ego trip he has discovered and fallen in love with the game in a very simple way.

* He invested some money in USAP and visited Perpignan for a match

* He read about the Dragons in the local paper and decided to go and watch a match as a paying spectator.

* Fell in love with it on the spot and said to himself why i am wasting my time and money on Rugby Union this game is far better.

 

Simple as that 

 

Paul

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2 hours ago, Lowdesert said:

I wonder whether making this era (and the history thereafter) a focal point for the 2025 WC will do the French game any good.  Certainly something for debate.

Yes I agree that it would probably be best not appear too bitter, although they certainly have a right too.

This  may be a case where backgrounding journalists or media outlets on what happened and then let them inform the public, the public will then make their own minds up.

Probably best to focus on the positives and the strength and joie de vivre that French League was known for and  how good they were.

But ultimately one of the main things I would be promoting would be the fact that that the Cup itself is named after a Frenchman, that should really make people sit up and take notice, I`d have it travelling the country side leading up to the tournament, setting up in town squares with old footage the lot.

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