Sun 22 Aug: SL: Leigh Centurions v Salford Red Devils KO 16:30

[GUBRATS]

Damn , got this one wrong , but first time this year I decided I'd have more than a couple of beers , so must have been a ' feeling '

Bring on the Saints

[GeordieSaint]

Well done Leigh.

[Futtocks]

Initially, I didn't think they'd go winless this season, but that was a few months ago and I was starting to wonder when the win would come. Well done, Leigh.

[redjonn]

Really please for Leigh. 

I have no doubt as all club teams that Leigh players have worked hard through the season together with the board and good for the fans to at last get a win... a group of really loyal fans are no doubt over the moon.

Well done to the club, team and fans

[JohnM]

16 minutes ago, redjonn said:

Really please for Leigh. 

I have no doubt as all club teams that Leigh players have worked hard through the season together with the board and good for the fans to at last get a win... a group of really loyal fans are no doubt over the moon.

Well done to the club, team and fans

Indeed, wel done.

Won't stop me mentioning lack of a railway station in that suburb of Wigan

[GUBRATS]

3 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Indeed, wel done.

Won't stop me mentioning lack of a railway station in that suburb of Wigan

The Salford fans came on the V1 bus , don't need trains

[Davo5]

12 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Well done Leigh, I hope your fans enjoyed your victory against a Super League club. 

Why wouldn’t they,sounds like their team put the n a great effort to beat a fellow Superleague club.

[The Future is League]

12 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

The Salford fans came on the V1 bus , don't need trains

It's less than 12 miles between Salford and Leigh and could have rode a push bike without any trouble.

[The Future is League]

14 hours ago, Scubby said:

Edited for accuracy.

.......3300 which is about par given the context.

For a local Super League derby that is a pathetic crowd figure. If anybody thinks that's a good crowd they are deluded. What other sporting events were they up against in the area?

I thought the thinking behind gifting a Suburb of Wigan a Super League place was to raise the crowd average. Well that's working out well isn't it, not, and wasn't it Elstone who recommended  Leigh be given a Super League place?

[Scubby]

4 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

For a local Super League derby that is a pathetic crowd figure. If anybody thinks that's a good crowd they are deluded. What other sporting events were they up against in the area?

I thought the thinking behind gifting a Suburb of Wigan a Super League place was to raise the crowd average. Well that's working out well isn't it, not, and wasn't it Elstone who recommended  Leigh be given a Super League place?

The context is crowds are pretty pathetic across the board at the moment. Leigh, given they have been tanked for 16 consecutive games are hardly going to buck the trend. The problem with crowds is a much deeper issue than having a free Sunday. Relegation is pretty much decided now anyway.

Kudos to the Leigh fans who stuck with their team!

[GUBRATS]

6 hours ago, Scubby said:

The context is crowds are pretty pathetic across the board at the moment. Leigh, given they have been tanked for 16 consecutive games are hardly going to buck the trend. The problem with crowds is a much deeper issue than having a free Sunday. Relegation is pretty much decided now anyway.

Kudos to the Leigh fans who stuck with their team!

As I put earlier , we are about where we were in the Championship , around 3,000 home fans , essentially our hardcore support , in 2017 we added around another 50/60% to that taking us up to near 5,000 , but as you point out our current record won't attract those extra fans , hopefully next year we can work on getting those and others back into the LSV 

[RoyBoy295]

23 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Personally I’d be happy to see them go winless given they never actually earned their Super League status. I’m sure Salford will turn them over in the 2nd half.

Aint you the proverbial ray of sunshine.

[The Future is League]

8 hours ago, Scubby said:

The context is crowds are pretty pathetic across the board at the moment. Leigh, given they have been tanked for 16 consecutive games are hardly going to buck the trend. The problem with crowds is a much deeper issue than having a free Sunday. Relegation is pretty much decided now anyway.

Kudos to the Leigh fans who stuck with their team!

For the record Oldham who are win less and bottom of the 4th tier of English soccer drew a bigger crowd that the Leigh V Red Devils and Oldham played a team who are 237 miles away and until  Saturday they were win less as well

[tonyXIII]

Where to begin?

Firstly, a big "Well done!" to Leigh. As someone else said, I hate to see a team go winless through an entire season, so I'm happy for you even if your win was at our expense.

As for Salford, I am lost for words. Almost. I can't get to England to watch them, so I have to rely on what others say, and it's not good. I don't want to ctiticise the players as I don't believe that players don't try. They might not be good enough, they might be suffering physical weakness following an illness, but to say they don't try is wrong even if it looks like it. What I can criticise, whatever the cause of a poor performance, is the lack of discipline. It's killing us week after week and it's down to the coaching staff to stamp it out.

After the last two seasons, this one is dispiriting to say the least. Roll on next year!

Oh, and anyone who thinks there should be any relegation after this shambles of a season is barking mad.

[The Future is League]

11 minutes ago, tonyXIII said:

Where to begin?

Firstly, a big "Well done!" to Leigh. As someone else said, I hate to see a team go winless through an entire season, so I'm happy for you even if your win was at our expense.

As for Salford, I am lost for words. Almost. I can't get to England to watch them, so I have to rely on what others say, and it's not good. I don't want to ctiticise the players as I don't believe that players don't try. They might not be good enough, they might be suffering physical weakness following an illness, but to say they don't try is wrong even if it looks like it. What I can criticise, whatever the cause of a poor performance, is the lack of discipline. It's killing us week after week and it's down to the coaching staff to stamp it out.

After the last two seasons, this one is dispiriting to say the least. Roll on next year!

Oh, and anyone who thinks there should be any relegation after this shambles of a season is barking mad.

Do you want a 13 team super league then?

[tonyXIII]

36 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

Do you want a 13 team super league then?

I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth. The rfl should find another solution.

[GUBRATS]

1 hour ago, The Future is League said:

For the record Oldham who are win less and bottom of the 4th tier of English soccer drew a bigger crowd that the Leigh V Red Devils and Oldham played a team who are 237 miles away and until  Saturday they were win less as well

Yes , and ?

[GUBRATS]

1 hour ago, tonyXIII said:

Where to begin?

Firstly, a big "Well done!" to Leigh. As someone else said, I hate to see a team go winless through an entire season, so I'm happy for you even if your win was at our expense.

As for Salford, I am lost for words. Almost. I can't get to England to watch them, so I have to rely on what others say, and it's not good. I don't want to ctiticise the players as I don't believe that players don't try. They might not be good enough, they might be suffering physical weakness following an illness, but to say they don't try is wrong even if it looks like it. What I can criticise, whatever the cause of a poor performance, is the lack of discipline. It's killing us week after week and it's down to the coaching staff to stamp it out.

After the last two seasons, this one is dispiriting to say the least. Roll on next year!

Oh, and anyone who thinks there should be any relegation after this shambles of a season is barking mad.

Should there be promotion ? 

Be very unfair for there not to be , so they tend to go hand in hand 

[Red Willow]

Well done Leigh, It's typical of Salford.

Lack of discipline is telling, but out played.

Marshall doesnt seem to know what team to play, never plays the fullback instead  picks a centre or half back.

[The Future is League]

19 minutes ago, tonyXIII said:

I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth. The rfl should find another solution.

No relegation means a 13 team super league, or perhaps a 14 teams super league if both the teams that reach the grand final get promoted

1 up 1 down is the only fair way

[sweaty craiq]

1 hour ago, The Future is League said:

For the record Oldham who are win less and bottom of the 4th tier of English soccer drew a bigger crowd that the Leigh V Red Devils and Oldham played a team who are 237 miles away and until  Saturday they were win less as well

I love this game:

2019 London Broncos biggest gate was less than that at Leigh on Sunday, oh and no pandemic. (also totally irrelevant)

The 2021 lowest attended fixture was Catalans v St Helens ( also completely irrelevant)

 

This season has been a write off, will be interesting how some clubs commercially survive it 

[sweaty craiq]

3 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

No relegation means a 13 team super league, or perhaps a 14 teams super league if both the teams that reach the grand final get promoted

1 up 1 down is the only fair way

Whatever encourages Sky to get back to the £40m per season min is the only way, and 12 teams isnt it at present

 

[The Future is League]

48 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Yes , and ?

Any Rugby League fan who thinks that a 4th tier soccer club with no wins this season getting a bigger crowd than a super League derby is acceptable should be on the funny farm. 

[GUBRATS]

5 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

Any Rugby League fan who thinks that a 4th tier soccer club with no wins this season getting a bigger crowd than a super League derby is acceptable should be on the funny farm. 

' acceptable ' ? So what do you suggest the sport does right now , about this unacceptable small crowd ? 

[The Future is League]

33 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

' acceptable ' ? So what do you suggest the sport does right now , about this unacceptable small crowd ? 

I have posted many times what the clubs should be doing.

I haven't seen anything from you about how clubs can increase crowds so i would welcome your views, but lets be perfectly honest less than 3,500 is totally unacceptable for a Super League derby isn't it, when they was up against nothing in the area on the sporting front