Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 What is the current state of play with a Super League tv deal in France? I know there was previously a deal as every Catalans home game was also broadcast on sky sports using the French feed. I believe Elstone ended that deal as it was only bringing in a small amount of money (I can’t remember the figure). Was a new deal ever agreed? Is there a deal in place for 2022? To me Catalans and Toulouse should be alternating home and away to give one home game in France every week. If we gave both French clubs immunity from relegation we’d be in a strong position to negotiate a lucrative tv deal in France and bring new money into the sport, something that is desperately needed. Is it guaranteed to be a success and work? No, but it would be a massive missed opportunity not to try, surely we are not in a position to pass that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 A French TV deal is critical in a world of dropping UK subscriptions from fans not in SL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Nothing less than a €20m a year deal with TF1 to show every game on FTA is acceptable. The SL clubs should vote to only give Toulouse half of their share as they’ve only just come up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: A French TV deal is critical in a world of dropping UK subscriptions from fans not in SL Are Sky subscriptions from fans of RL clubs not in SL going down then? Have you got a source for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Cashmere Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 It should be on Davy as SLE chairman and Rimmer as RFL CEO to be proactive in this. Put together a package including (at least) 1 guaranteed England v France game per season, 1 home game each week for one of the two sides and a flagship event (whether that be Toulouse v Cats @ Camp Nou/ Velodrome/ continuing with them at Magic Weekend). If they're foolish enough to not allow TO an initial stay from relegation; then include a penalty clause sufficient enough for a broadcaster to continue showing their games in the Championship and enter into a long-term agreement. Build up OURLeague so that French fans can watch their side away from home. This is now possible with the new Sky deal delivering their production infrastructure to every SL game. There's plenty more you could do besides. My fear is it'll be the same laissez-faire 'it's up to them to sort it out for us' attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DI Keith Fowler Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 With the new Sky deal they can do even better, they can have 1 home match each week (filmed by them presumably) and 1 away match each week (since Sky will be filming all of these to broadcast level in the UK). Something I was wondering re: the Sky deal, will we be due some money back for the games Sky agreed to film (i.e. all) that will now be in France and presumably filmed by someone else? I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Shepherd Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: What is the current state of play with a Super League tv deal in France? I know there was previously a deal as every Catalans home game was also broadcast on sky sports using the French feed. I believe Elstone ended that deal as it was only bringing in a small amount of money (I can’t remember the figure). Was a new deal ever agreed? Is there a deal in place for 2022? To me Catalans and Toulouse should be alternating home and away to give one home game in France every week. If we gave both French clubs immunity from relegation we’d be in a strong position to negotiate a lucrative tv deal in France and bring new money into the sport, something that is desperately needed. Is it guaranteed to be a success and work? No, but it would be a massive missed opportunity not to try, surely we are not in a position to pass that up? I'm sure you were trolling on another thread a mere two days ago that a French TV deal is an absolute certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: A French TV deal is critical in a world of dropping UK subscriptions from fans not in SL What, all 4 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: What, all 4 of them? Local sauce has informed me 1895 Sports subscriptions have been cancelled in WN7 alone in recent weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Local sauce has informed me 1895 Sports subscriptions have been cancelled in WN7 alone in recent weeks Red or Brown?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, David Shepherd said: I'm sure you were trolling on another thread a mere two days ago that a French TV deal is an absolute certainty. Which thread was this? Provide a quote please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Local sauce has informed me 1895 Sports subscriptions have been cancelled in WN7 alone in recent weeks Lots of fans cancel their sports subscriptions at the end of the season and sign up again when the new season begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Could you image this thread going into meltdown if their was a FrenchTV deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Local sauce has informed me 1895 Sports subscriptions have been cancelled in WN7 alone in recent weeks How many is that as a percentage of total sky sports subscriptions in Leigh, and what is the usual drop off at the end of a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gittinsfan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Eddie said: How many is that as a percentage of total sky sports subscriptions in Leigh, and what is the usual drop off at the end of a season? I think the number quoted may have some other significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 French RU gets massive TV and council investment, it should be very easy to get a £4/5m tv deal for SL plus the huge lcal authority war chests used for sport eg recently a French council gave a RU club a 34000 seat stadium. Interesting that French RU top 2 divisions are FT with P&R but meet as 30 clubs, unlike SL and Championships - 2 x SL tens/twelves anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Red or Brown?. or no sauce at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnM said: or no sauce at all. Red or Brown on yer meyt n prater John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: French RU gets massive TV and council investment, it should be very easy to get a £4/5m tv deal for SL plus the huge lcal authority war chests used for sport eg recently a French council gave a RU club a 34000 seat stadium. Interesting that French RU top 2 divisions are FT with P&R but meet as 30 clubs, unlike SL and Championships - 2 x SL tens/twelves anyone If it’s so easy to get a £4-5m TV deal to show Cats and Toulouse games I wonder if you might tell SL how it’s done? I’m sure they and the clubs would appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: If it’s so easy to get a £4-5m TV deal to show Cats and Toulouse games I wonder if you might tell SL how it’s done? I’m sure they and the clubs would appreciate it. Call Peter V'Landys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: Call Peter V'Landys Super League already knows how to get a smaller TV deal Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daddy Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: French RU gets massive TV and council investment, it should be very easy to get a £4/5m tv deal for SL plus the huge lcal authority war chests used for sport eg recently a French council gave a RU club a 34000 seat stadium. Interesting that French RU top 2 divisions are FT with P&R but meet as 30 clubs, unlike SL and Championships - 2 x SL tens/twelves anyone Yeah clearly it's super duper easy. You should lead the negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Eddie said: If it’s so easy to get a £4-5m TV deal to show Cats and Toulouse games I wonder if you might tell SL how it’s done? I’m sure they and the clubs would appreciate it. I have no allegiance to SL and they couldn't afford my terms. That figure is based upon 4-5% of the RU deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: I have no allegiance to SL and they couldn't afford my terms. That figure is based upon 4-5% of the RU deal Do you also think it would be easy for SL to get a TV deal worth 4-5% of the premier league’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The storm Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: Call Peter V'Landys Peter negotiated a billion dollar NRL deal and is proposing a 17th team in the NRL I believe we should pass all sky negotiations onto the NRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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