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9 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

Its Why sadly without internationals entincing in some multi millionaire to do it right and basically lose 2 million a year every year they arent in SL the ship has sailed on rl in London. 60k isnt even a deposit yet the cap is basically that per player.  

Noone who is sane or not a millionaire wants to live there.  People were forced to live there for a good job and anyone who can remote work is rightly fleeing that over priced hole. 

Its why not allowing Manchester Rangers in (500k pop,  in a heartland but in need of rejuvinate and new commercial partners, where the rfl now based themselves) is unforgivable. 

Well, I agree with all of that apart from the 'overpriced hole' bit.  The part where I live is nice (and the property market is pretty hot so nobody is really fleeing London).

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Well, I agree with all of that apart from the 'overpriced hole' bit.  The part where I live is nice (and the property market is pretty hot so nobody is really fleeing London).

I think if you look at the trend people who can are leaving . The market is hot because its used as a place to internationally wash money and buy to let.  

Theres a reason companies and lobbyists were screaming for people to go bk to the office because so much money is wrapped up in leeching off people who had to rent there for work. It simply isnt a place fit for human habitation. 

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16 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

I think if you look at the trend people who can are leaving . The market is hot because its used as a place to internationally wash money and buy to let.  

Theres a reason companies and lobbyists were screaming for people to go bk to the office because so much money is wrapped up in leeching off people who had to rent there for work. It simply isnt a place fit for human habitation

Sentences like this just don't lend themselves to reasonable dialogue.  Yes, London is expensive and yes, there are parts I wouldn't want to live but equally there are some very nice parts.

I have friends here from all over the country and all over the world who live here because they want to live here, not because they have to.

To say it isn't fit for human habitation is simply proved false by all the available and easy to see evidence.

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36 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Sentences like this just don't lend themselves to reasonable dialogue.  Yes, London is expensive and yes, there are parts I wouldn't want to live but equally there are some very nice parts.

I have friends here from all over the country and all over the world who live here because they want to live here, not because they have to.

To say it isn't fit for human habitation is simply proved false by all the available and easy to see evidence.

I dont want to get this locked so we will leave it there. In terms of League,  it is now unaffordable for the cap.  

 

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2 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

I dont want to get this locked so we will leave it there. In terms of League,  it is now unaffordable for the cap.  

 

Yes, I agree with this.

If we are serious about attracting professional players to London, a one size fits all cap isn't going to work... there has to be a significant London allowance to compensate for the difference in pricing (housing in particular - both rental and buy).

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5 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Yes, I agree with this.

If we are serious about attracting professional players to London, a one size fits all cap isn't going to work... there has to be a significant London allowance to compensate for the difference in pricing (housing in particular - both rental and buy).

Well noone is going to play professional sport to rent a house.  

If the cap now is 2 you probably need 3 million.  London is great for internationals and they should get more but a club I think is too late sadly. 

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2 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

Well noone is going to play professional sport to rent a house.  

If the cap now is 2 you probably need 3 million.  London is great for internationals and they should get more but a club I think is too late sadly. 

I would imagine plenty of professional sports people rent rather than buy. 

Renting can be seen as dead money but if you have a two year contract anywhere, why would you fork out for legal fees/stamp duty etc. just to move on to a new town/city in a years time.

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56 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I would imagine plenty of professional sports people rent rather than buy. 

Renting can be seen as dead money but if you have a two year contract anywhere, why would you fork out for legal fees/stamp duty etc. just to move on to a new town/city in a years time.

But you arent saving that money in London.  If a box room in London is 700 then you are losing half your money to rent somewhere that isnt a dump.  

Wigan fine.  We arent talking about soccer players on 20k a week. For me Manchester is more realistic regrowth now. 

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On 08/04/2022 at 12:52, watcherofRL said:

And what happened the week after Coates played in the 1st team? They chose to play a centre at half instead of him! Right choice to let him leave LB. Next question is - can we get someone to play next to Leyland who can look less like a rabbit in the headlights and bring the attacking force to both edges as that is the thing that is currently lacking! Siti may have qualities (not convinced) other than being an OZ but is not a FB or a half! Need to stabilise and support Leyland for balance on pitch. Walker has the pace and need to use his pace and lines of running

Has been the Fijian test half for a number of years pal.Dont think he is the problem in terms of the half's attacking options 

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On 08/04/2022 at 12:55, watcherofRL said:

You get lots of inside info - interesting if true

Not really pal,I read forums,watch games and then make my opinion .

Ford and Chisholm have been rumours for a while.

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6 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

I dont want to get this locked so we will leave it there. In terms of League,  it is now unaffordable for the cap.  

 

Please continue because you are just making a fool of yourself. The language is disgraceful stuff. London is expensive but so is every other big city.

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4 hours ago, Cowboy said:

Has been the Fijian test half for a number of years pal.Dont think he is the problem in terms of the half's attacking options 

Not really - played mainly full back but nothing really for 4 years and in 2017 World Cup he did not get into the playing team! Best times for him were with Canberra playing for Mounties and although had some movement has rarely played regularly and definitely not ay half back but you appear to be the guru…

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4 hours ago, Cowboy said:

Not really pal,I read forums,watch games and then make my opinion .

Ford and Chisholm have been rumours for a while.

cheers Pal - do all that too but still hadn’t heard the rumours so you must be keeping ear close to ground and be good at predicting!

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40 minutes ago, NW10LDN said:

Please continue because you are just making a fool of yourself. The language is disgraceful stuff. London is expensive but so is every other big city.

Agree, mainly people who comment about London and the cost of living are speaking from a place of ignorance. Cities such as York, Durham etc are as expensive and beer cost as much too! Get what you pay for and although loads or places in London that are over priced there are still good areas with reasonable housing! Wimbledon is an exception but has been an expensive place to live for a lot longer than broncos tenure there and even in Ealing which was in comparison a far less attractive place to live it was pricey compared with outer London 

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27 minutes ago, watcherofRL said:

Agree, mainly people who comment about London and the cost of living are speaking from a place of ignorance. Cities such as York, Durham etc are as expensive and beer cost as much too! Get what you pay for and although loads or places in London that are over priced there are still good areas with reasonable housing! Wimbledon is an exception but has been an expensive place to live for a lot longer than broncos tenure there and even in Ealing which was in comparison a far less attractive place to live it was pricey compared with outer London 

What I have always said about London is that it is as expensive as you want it to be.

But a big exception here which is housing... if you want a nice place then yes, it is expensive.

But after that... you can get around cheaply enough on the tube and buses... I have done 5,000 miles in my car in the last 4 years. 

If you go out to eat you can find a place that's £250 a head or £25 cause there is simply loads of choice.

Shopping is again no more expensive.  As for beer, even if it's a couple of quid more then that's a tenner more for 5 pints which isn't breaking the bank.

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3 hours ago, NW10LDN said:

Please continue because you are just making a fool of yourself. The language is disgraceful stuff. London is expensive but so is every other big city.

Average house price Madrid 300,000 euros.  Berlín just voted to take houses back from buy to let landlords.  I know people from London think the world revolves around it but actually,  if you step outside your bubble, you'll realize how incorrect your statement is. 

 

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1 hour ago, Dunbar said:

What I have always said about London is that it is as expensive as you want it to be.

But a big exception here which is housing... if you want a nice place then yes, it is expensive.

But after that... you can get around cheaply enough on the tube and buses... I have done 5,000 miles in my car in the last 4 years. 

If you go out to eat you can find a place that's £250 a head or £25 cause there is simply loads of choice.

Shopping is again no more expensive.  As for beer, even if it's a couple of quid more then that's a tenner more for 5 pints which isn't breaking the bank.

So after you sink 50 % of your income on a flat with no security (for those of us not born before the 1980's ) its fine...

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14 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

So after you sink 50 % of your income on a flat with no security (for those of us not born before the 1980's ) its fine...

Yeah, I don't really know what you want me to say... I am just trying to provide an honest assessment of the situation.

Thinking about it, I have come up with this conditional logic for you.

If you don't want to live in London and you can't afford to live in London, then great, you don't have to live in London.

If you don't want to live in London even though you can afford to live in London, then don't live in London.

If you can't afford to live in London even though you do want to live in London, then sorry, you can't live in London.

If you want to live in London and you can afford to live in London, then crack on.

"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

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11 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

If you can't afford to live in London, then great, you don't have to live in London.

Because up until covid this meant everyone Who didnt have the luxury of geography or their parents bank balance was locked out of the overwhelming majority of opportunities in their own country.  

If you cant afford to live where the vast majority of Jobs in: Media,  Finance, Politics, Law any other sector then tough luck is why everyone locked out of the city subsidised by the state hates it. 

Then the second people could do that , after covid when working from home was shown to work , everyone with money or property demanded they be forced back to their boxes to subsidise landlords.  

Living in Madrid there is sometimes a similar vibe of entitlement in thinking the city is subsidising the state when in reality it is the state that makes the city relevant. 

Everyone would be better off if house prices in London collapsed. I'll leave it there. 

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As a Londoner (Originally from Beckenham) over the last 25 years have lived in Holland Park then Chiswick and now we are in a little village in Kent and back and forth to Catalonia.

35 mins on the train to London in the gorgeous weald of Kent we love it only 35 mins from Gatwick 1 hour and a bit to Heathrow 90 mins to Dover its perfect.

London for me is now in and out for the odd meeting hospital visit or event as for living there again no way.

 

Paul

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3 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

As a Londoner (Originally from Beckenham) over the last 25 years have lived in Holland Park then Chiswick and now we are in a little village in Kent and back and forth to Catalonia.

35 mins on the train to London in the gorgeous weald of Kent we love it only 35 mins from Gatwick 1 hour and a bit to Heathrow 90 mins to Dover its perfect.

London for me is now in and out for the odd meeting hospital visit or event as for living there again no way.

 

Paul

Perfectly fair.

And my family and I are still at the point where we enjoy London - not least as my Italian wife loves the cosmopolitan nature of the city (as do I).  This may change over the next several years/decades.

Everyone has their own preferences and I respect them all.  What I really can't be doing with is when someone doesn't just say 'London is not for me' but rather it 'isnt a place fit for human habitation' as mentioned earlier on in the thread.  

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24 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Perfectly fair.

And my family and I are still at the point where we enjoy London - not least as my Italian wife loves the cosmopolitan nature of the city (as do I).  This may change over the next several years/decades.

Everyone has their own preferences and I respect them all.  What I really can't be doing with is when someone doesn't just say 'London is not for me' but rather it 'isnt a place fit for human habitation' as mentioned earlier on in the thread.  

I still go to some of my favourite restaurants now and again and as for museums etc nothing beats it, funny thing is it takes me roughly the same time to get back to the station in Kent from the west end  as it did on the tube to Chiswick:)

 

Paul

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On 09/04/2022 at 16:43, watcherofRL said:

Not really - played mainly full back but nothing really for 4 years and in 2017 World Cup he did not get into the playing team! Best times for him were with Canberra playing for Mounties and although had some movement has rarely played regularly and definitely not ay half back but you appear to be the guru…

Would have preferred his brother 🤔

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On 31/12/2021 at 10:16, Twickbronc said:

“Fijian international Sitiveni Moceidreke recently signed.

Played five-eighth at international level for Fiji multiple times and made his NRL debut on the wing for the Rabbitohs a few seasons ago.

Has been playing in the NSW Cup competition with the Dragons in 2021.

Good signing.”

 

 

 

Source?

 

 

On 31/12/2021 at 13:05, Twickbronc said:

Where did you hear this?

Looking at the form I went back and reviewed his career. One match for Fiji as half back and one more game as full back and t this was 2016 and then 2017. Nothing since even though did make squad for World Cup 2017 but didn’t play. He played for different side every year from 2016 to date and his most regular position was centre or wing as not reliable as half. Think Coleman swept away by the Oz factor and needs to do more research! Too many journeymen in one squad! Need coach who is able to bring by the best out of the players as actually have half decent players who have played representative rugby in our own country 

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