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There is a very simple rule which I think needs applying to this thread.

A lack of sales can only ever be attributed to the seller, not the customer.

If the organisers are unhappy with the sales of last night’s fixture, then the blame solely lies with them.

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35 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

I'm not that fussed over the attendances and i don't think that many people are these days, despite the 000s of threads...

My concern is that the attendances are a symptom of poor management and it's this that is frustrating. Certainly for me anyway. 

I don't mind the losing (small attendances), if we'd play well, ie set up decent pricing structures, tried to spread it geographically, have a decent website, be able to choose seats etc etc etc, but we're seeing too many management issues over and over again.

 

sums it up well

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1 minute ago, Gomersall said:

 

This is fine but I find it very hard to believe we are going to do much better than 5-6000 for most of the non-England group games, based on yesterday's showings, so that average is going to sink.

I do feel very deflated by that Warrington crowd, tbh. It was a good game and to me an attractive fixture, but clearly people weren't prepared to pay to attend it and I don't see why that will be different at Doncaster, St Helens, Leigh, etc.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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1 hour ago, Leonard said:

Me too.

And I really enjoyed Italy v Scotland.

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Last point on World Cup tickets tonight. Jon Dutton told me last week 2013 sales practically surpassed already and hopeful of posting more than 571,000 who watched women’s Euros this summer. Marathon, not a sprint, I hope.

If that is true - it is interesting that it is already more popular than 2013 with weeks of sales to come - despite the perception here that it won't be. Although I am not sure if that is including women's and wheelchair sales.

So the hope must be things will pick up.

 

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1 hour ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

I agree + its mainly been pitched at RL fans, the whole thing is a mess right upto the premium hospitality prices being the same as the 6 Nations for the Semi-Finals and Final (Its being run by the same Edinburgh company that have the SRU contract) they have taken the RUWC and 6 Nations model and tried to replicate it and now the wheels have fallen off.

 

Thank god the France 2025 organisers  have already seen the mistakes made and will make tickets affordable for all at 30 euros with one price hospitality packages far easier and simple to understand and a great way to expand  the footprint and support base backed up in each town and city by the Marie with CASH:)

 

I’m feeling a holiday to France coming on... 

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13 hours ago, Leonard said:

It would take one person 60 secs to set up an account.

Given I travelled 6 hours each way this weekend, that's a pretty pathetic excuse just to not go if they really wanted to. 

You may think it’s a pathetic excuse but they don’t and they class themselves as RL fans. If they could’ve visited Saints to pickup some tickets they would’ve gone, as that would have been the easiest thing for them to do.
They didn’t want to setup an account, people like to do things differently and there should’ve been more choice for getting tickets other than doing it online. Hopefully when we have the next RLWC we can learn from the mistakes that have been made in 2022. 

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1 minute ago, doc said:

Just watched Scotland v West Indies in T20 WC.

The attendance was tiny. But don't think Sky would bin it off. 

It's like, you know, nobody cares!

I do care a bit though. I want:

- our international game to be well funded 

- the public appetite for international RL to be proven beyond any doubt so we get more of it

- new people to start our watching our game and find the whole experience brilliant

- our players to have great experiences and play in front of loud, large crowds

 

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

The problem is, that was the price 2 years ago. We need to sell seats her and now. 

I don't think you can mass discount.

I'd be fuming if my seats for Tonga v PNG were suddenly half price.

That's a bit of a kick in the teeth for those who bought early to support the event and rolled over their tickets 12 months.

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1 minute ago, Leonard said:

I don't think you can mass discount.

I'd be fuming if my seats for Tonga v PNG were suddenly half price.

That's a bit of a kick in the teeth for those who bought early to support the event and rolled over their tickets 12 months.

Compensate in some way? Eg discounted/free ticket to another match?

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2 minutes ago, Leonard said:

I don't think you can mass discount.

I'd be fuming if my seats for Tonga v PNG were suddenly half price.

That's a bit of a kick in the teeth for those who bought early to support the event and rolled over their tickets 12 months.

What would be acceptable is firstly offering up upgrades to all booked tickets into the premium seats then levelling out prices elsewhere, however I don’t think this will happen

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Just now, bratman said:

Compensate in some way? Eg discounted/free ticket to another match?

At this stage I am not sure that would make financial sense. For example, you refund 6k people and hope to get another 1,500 paying £15?

Plus I just can't get to more games due to where I am based. So free tickets not a lot of use to me.

Maybe offer free tickets for kids - that would be fine.

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4 minutes ago, Leonard said:

I don't think you can mass discount.

I'd be fuming if my seats for Tonga v PNG were suddenly half price.

That's a bit of a kick in the teeth for those who bought early to support the event and rolled over their tickets 12 months.

I think the discounting ship has sailed. 

Even though they did that at St James Pk. Despite attempts at gaslighting us, Dutton saying they will not discount, I got a £30 ticket for a seat which was previously priced at £70.

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

What would be acceptable is firstly offering up upgrades to all booked tickets into the premium seats then levelling out prices elsewhere, however I don’t think this will happen

I assume with seats allocated that is just a nightmare to organise and given their inability to do the simple things - wouldn't end well. You can imagine people turning up with the wrong tickets etc.

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1 hour ago, Dave T said:

Funnily enough the low crowds so far have stirred up a reaction in me to want to get to more games. 

Looking at a couple of quarter finals too now and rallying some troops.

I am the opposite; pretty deflated after feeling quite pumped after attending the match in Newcastle. I live a long way from the heartlands so really struggling with motivation to get in the car to spend hours in traffic to attend a match in a near empty stadium with no entertainment put on less the match itself but having to pay premium prices.

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Just now, Leonard said:

At this stage I am not sure that would make financial sense. For example, you refund 6k people and hope to get another 1,500 paying £15?

Plus I just can't get to more games due to where I am based. So free tickets not a lot of use to me.

Maybe offer free tickets for kids - that would be fine.

I think you have to work hard behind the scenes now. Youth groups, community groups, sports teams etc. is where you can probably offer discounts, but not publicly now. 

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Just now, GeordieSaint said:

I am the opposite; pretty deflated after feeling quite pumped after attending the match in Newcastle. I live a long way from the heartlands so really struggling with motivation to get in the car to spend hours in traffic to attend a match in a near empty stadium with no entertainment put on less the match itself but having to pay premium prices.

I can understand that mate. 

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23 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

There is a very simple rule which I think needs applying to this thread.

A lack of sales can only ever be attributed to the seller, not the customer.

If the organisers are unhappy with the sales of last night’s fixture, then the blame solely lies with them.

Spot on. 

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Just now, Dave T said:

I think you have to work hard behind the scenes now. Youth groups, community groups, sports teams etc. is where you can probably offer discounts, but not publicly now. 

Yes - I don't think anyone would have a beef with kids in free with a ticket for an adult. 

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3 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

I am the opposite; pretty deflated after feeling quite pumped after attending the match in Newcastle. I live a long way from the heartlands so really struggling with motivation to get in the car to spend hours in traffic to attend a match in a near empty stadium with no entertainment put on less the match itself but having to pay premium prices.

This is it. Low crowds will just lead to lower crowds and the opposite is true.

I said before the tournament my gut was that it would be something between 2000 and 2013 and it's looking that way. England will do OK, the quarters, semis and final will do OK but a lot in-between will be poor.

The pricing was absurd for many games as was the location. How did they end up with two games in Newcastle and two in Leeds over the weekend?

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