Jill Halfpenny fan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Morris Wanchuk said: Feel for the players & hopefully it gets sorted. No where near the record held by Widnes tho, IIRC they went into administration as soon as the hooter went when they blew a playoff final, god knows how many years ago. P Exactly what I thought, after losing to Castleford, 2007 ish. Can't remember how we came back from that one. 1 Just because you think everyone hates you doesn't mean they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, kiggy said: They aren't a professional side though so how much are we really talking about? Not that I'm dissing the club, any money owed is important to the employees Of course they're professional. The amount is anyone's guess but it'll be a fair wedge. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, Gooleboy said: You could come down to give some lessons then, as a volunteer of course as we can't pay you anything. Amateurs next season, then? Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tex Evans Thigh said: Well of course Batley would have been promoted but the door was slammed shut because of SL and Fev and Fax have both won the Championship but were faced with a closed shop and no promotion. i.e. they were all artificially held back so Wakey could finish bottom in SL every year to 'let them develop and build' When was this, please? Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Amateurs next season, then? Maybe so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Evans Thigh Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: When was this, please? 94/95 when Keighley and Batley finished top 2 in Div 2 but both were denied promotion and a few including Fev were also booted in favour of PSG and London. Formerly Alistair Boyd-Meaney fifty thousand Poouunds from Keighley...weve had im gid." MIPM Project Management and Business Solutions " Discounts available for forum members contact me for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Tex Evans Thigh said: 94/95 when Keighley and Batley finished top 2 in Div 2 but both were denied promotion and a few including Fev were also booted in favour of PSG and London. OK. I hadn't realised folk were still hurting from so long ago. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Evans Thigh Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, Blind side johnny said: OK. I hadn't realised folk were still hurting from so long ago. I'm not hurting, I was answering a question. 1 Formerly Alistair Boyd-Meaney fifty thousand Poouunds from Keighley...weve had im gid." MIPM Project Management and Business Solutions " Discounts available for forum members contact me for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Bull Mania said: Worrying thing is, if Matts article is correct, it reads like they're saying they don't have any funds for the wages and are looking at external income to cover them. What about next months wages (granted it will be significantly less) Would presume the season ticket money (which seemed to have a very very early deadline for early bird) has already been spent. Let's hope it gets sorted. The season is over, why would they need to pay players then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Tex Evans Thigh said: Hull KR are a great example of how shambolic this whole thing is. They were down on their luck and well outside the cut when SL started. I remember them languishing in the 3rd tier at one point until they started to pick up and go on a bit of a roll. They were fortunate that their upturn coincided with a brief period of natural P&R occurring and got up to SL and stayed up. They've steadily grown, even going through a relegation (all part of the growth cycle) and are now a 'grade A' club. if this system had been in place for the past 20 years Hull KR would still be in the championship. No, if the new system had been in place then Neil Hudgell, Rob Crossland and others could have spent their £12-15m a lot more efficiently to build Hull KR into a sustainable top-flight club. Yes, that’s how much has been spent. The old system was hugely inefficient. 1 Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tex Evans Thigh said: 94/95 when Keighley and Batley finished top 2 in Div 2 but both were denied promotion and a few including Fev were also booted in favour of PSG and London. Widnes were kicked out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: They aren’t good enough to get in SL whatever the system theyve just shown it. If the system rewarded the team finishing 1st in the league they’d have been good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Evans Thigh Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said: No, if the new system had been in place then Neil Hudgell, Rob Crossland and others could have spent their £12-15m a lot more efficiently to build Hull KR into a sustainable top-flight club. Yes, that’s how much has been spent. The old system was hugely inefficient. yeah, sure they would. Formerly Alistair Boyd-Meaney fifty thousand Poouunds from Keighley...weve had im gid." MIPM Project Management and Business Solutions " Discounts available for forum members contact me for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, Eddie said: If the system rewarded the team finishing 1st in the league they’d have been good enough. Well it didn’t and hasn’t for a long time so that’s a pointless argument. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Eddie said: If the system rewarded the team finishing 1st in the league they’d have been good enough. You can only go with the system in place at the start of the season and that wasn't it so they wasn't good enough. Teams recruit and play the season with the play offs in mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Chrispmartha said: No it shows that the system is designed to get the best run clubs in the top tier, as Featherstone have shown they aren’t a well run club on or off the field. I'm not sure the system is designed for that otherwise Batley who are probably run better than over half of the teams in SL would have a chance of making the 12. Personally I'm not too fussed either way because I think the fallout when the actual gradings are announced is going to be one of the funniest things Ive seen in RL but in my opinion certain parts of the grading system were set to disadvantage some teams and advantage others. Just looking at the catchment areas and I would take some convincing otherwise. Not to mention that some areas that have a fantastic history of producing talent for the top tier do not seem to get rewarded for that in any way at all. You honestly can't blame Fev for gambling on the 1.5m carrot or whatever it is especially as the criteria looks stacked to favor teams already in SL and anyone who says that over the past decade they don't diserve a chance in the top tier is probably off their rocker. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, paulwalker71 said: I wondered how long it would be before the Bulls were mentioned Kudos for letting it drag onto page three Bulls fans can hardly talk they've been on here and our site so no room to complain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullWire Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, Big Picture said: The season is over, why would they need to pay players then? Players are paid all year round - what would they live on othewise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Chrispmartha said: Are Bradford in SL? Not yet ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HullWire said: Players are paid all year round - what would they live on othewise Aren’t players contracts from November to November? which would still mean the players ‘off contract’ are owed money Edited November 1, 2023 by Chrispmartha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Halfpenny fan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gooleboy said: Widnes were kicked out as well. From memory Widnes were told they were in about 7 games from the season's end (after Toulouse pulled out). In typical Widnes fashion they then lost something like 6 of the last seven. Seem to recall that the contracts were based on games played so they thought they'd save money leaving players out. Anyway they finished outside the top ten. Then Castleford objected complaining that they finished above Widnes but they were out and Widnes were in. So they had a big meeting which resulted in them going with the top ten. Ironically, if Widnes knew it was going to be the top ten they'd have probably won a few more of the last seven games. Also Oldham and Workington got in and it would have been the first time in years either had finished above Widnes. In the first Superleague season Widnes knocked both Oldham and Workington out of the cup. Looking back I don't think we ever recovered from it. Just because you think everyone hates you doesn't mean they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, Damien said: You can only go with the system in place at the start of the season and that wasn't it so they wasn't good enough. Teams recruit and play the season with the play offs in mind. I know, I was just responding to Chris’ comment that they woundn’t have gone up whatever the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said: From memory Widnes were told they were in about 7 games from the season's end (after Toulouse pulled out). In typical Widnes fashion they then lost something like 6 of the last seven. Seem to recall that the contracts were based on games played so they thought they'd save money leaving players out. Anyway they finished outside the top ten. Then Castleford objected complaining that they finished above Widnes but they were out and Widnes were in. So they had a big meeting which resulted in them going with the top ten. Ironically, if Widnes knew it was going to be the top ten they'd have probably won a few more of the last seven games. Also Oldham and Workington got in and it would have been the first time in years either had finished above Widnes. In the first Superleague season Widnes knocked both Oldham and Workington out of the cup. Looking back I don't think we ever recovered from it. Crossed wires. I was referring to the start of SL when you were kicked out along with us to allow PSG and London in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasginger Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Monkeymagic22 said: The Club have said that players will be paid. Spoil sport. What you said that for lol. To say were not liked, 5 pages suggest different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, HullWire said: Players are paid all year round - what would they live on othewise In North America players are paid their full contract amount over the course of the season. Out of season the only money the franchises pay players is their stipends for training camp. The players budget accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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