Griff Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eddie said: Ah fair enough, I assumed midweek as they were the first year the 1895 cup ran. Another shocking idea. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barley Mow Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Derwent Parker said: ... L1 will probably have 23 games each not counting play offs. apart from Cornwall who will have 17 ... Won't Cornwall have 20 league matches plus at least 1 in the Challenge Cup? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I’d like to see the top few NCL sides enter the 1895 cup too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Eddie said: I’d like to see the top few NCL sides enter the 1895 cup too. They are playing in the CC, starting in Round 2 at the end of January. Champ and League 1 come in at Round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, del capo said: They are playing in the CC, starting in Round 2 at the end of January. Champ and League 1 come in at Round 3. I know, but why not give them another opportunity to play league one or champ teams? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del capo Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Eddie said: I know, but why not give them another opportunity to play league one or champ teams? Fewer Community clubs this year but 10 will survive to Round 3 on 10/11 feb and some could survive to Round 4 a fortnight later. Probably enough for them as the games are pre season ( NCL starts early march ) and many clubs will want to warm up with easier matches and traditional friendlies before their own big kick off. But as the saying goes ' never say never ' ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Eddie said: I’d like to see the top few NCL sides enter the 1895 cup too. What's your thinking there? "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 This quote is from the RFL press release: Quote The first round of group fixtures in the AB Sundecks 1895 Cup will be played on the weekend of January 27-28. The remaining two rounds of group fixtures will be played in February, alternating with the early rounds of the Betfred Challenge Cup. Just to be clear. In a group of three, this mean that each club plays just two group fixtures? 2 https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Griff said: What's your thinking there? I want to see if the top NCL teams are as good as the weaker L1 teams, and I’d like to see them take on that challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Eddie said: I want to see if the top NCL teams are as good as the weaker L1 teams, and I’d like to see them take on that challenge. Decent idea. With just 3 NCL teams we could make six groups of four, and give every club three weeks of fixtures before the league programme starts. 1 https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said: This quote is from the RFL press release: Just to be clear. In a group of three, this mean that each club plays just two group fixtures? Yes and where there is a game between L1 and Championship clubs then the L1 club is at home. For example, I assume there will be a Cumbria group of Town, Haven & Barrow. Town will be at home to both of the other clubs, then I suppose its the toss of a coin to see who plays at home for the remaining Haven/ Barrow fixture. If a Championship club gets put into a group with 2 L1 clubs then they won't have a home match. I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Eddie said: I want to see if the top NCL teams are as good as the weaker L1 teams, and I’d like to see them take on that challenge. Oh - OK. Just to satisfy your curiosity then. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Derwent said: Yes and where there is a game between L1 and Championship clubs then the L1 club is at home. For example, I assume there will be a Cumbria group of Town, Haven & Barrow. Town will be at home to both of the other clubs, then I suppose its the toss of a coin to see who plays at home for the remaining Haven/ Barrow fixture. If a Championship club gets put into a group with 2 L1 clubs then they won't have a home match. I'd just say lower placed club at home. Saves all that tossing. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Griff said: I'd just say lower placed club at home. Saves all that tossing. Agreed, but there's a lot of tossing enthusiasts in Whitehaven...... 1 I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Parker Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Barley Mow said: Won't Cornwall have 20 league matches plus at least 1 in the Challenge Cup? yes my error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Griff said: Oh - OK. Just to satisfy your curiosity then. Not sure why you’re being so cantankerous, it’s obviously more than to satisfy my curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eddie said: Not sure why you’re being so cantankerous, it’s obviously more than to satisfy my curiosity. Not as obvious as you think. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, Derwent said: Yes and where there is a game between L1 and Championship clubs then the L1 club is at home. For example, I assume there will be a Cumbria group of Town, Haven & Barrow. Town will be at home to both of the other clubs, then I suppose its the toss of a coin to see who plays at home for the remaining Haven/ Barrow fixture. If a Championship club gets put into a group with 2 L1 clubs then they won't have a home match. Yes. That may well give some L1 clubs with two home games and some Ch clubs with none, which I guess is the point if they're looking to recompense L1 clubs for their cra ppy schedule 1 https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 So basically whitehaven workington and barrow will be in the same group . Bit unfair town will get 2 home games and barrow or Haven will have 2 away games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, donald said: So basically whitehaven workington and barrow will be in the same group . Bit unfair town will get 2 home games and barrow or Haven will have 2 away games Deliberately in favour of the L1 sides. 1 "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 The truth from Cornwall about why they are not in the cup: During recent discussions among League 1 clubs about the proposed competition structure for 2024, Cornwall RLFC was asked by the collective if it would consider sitting out of the AB Sundecks 1895 Cup competition, for 2024 only, to ease the logistical burden for other League 1 clubs. The club felt that this decision would allow for a swifter resolution to be reached for the 2024 season structure and, after careful and considered deliberation, Cornwall RLFC has graciously agreed to the collectives request to not participate in the AB Sundecks 1895 Cup in 2024. Commenting on this decision, Cornwall RLFC’s chief executive officer Rob Butland, said: “Cornwall RLFC is a club which has the expansion and development of rugby league at its core, and whilst our preference would have been to take part in the 1895 Cup in 2024, after discussions with our fellow clubs it was ultimately decided that with the interest of the wider game at heart we would agree to the request. “We look forward to seeing everyone on the pitch in both the Betfred Challenge Cup and Betfred League 1 season next year.” Club Statement: AB Sundecks 1895 Cup - Cornwall RLFC 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumby Magic Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Eddie said: I’d like to see the top few NCL sides enter the 1895 cup too. I touted this some time back too. 1 Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, donald said: So basically whitehaven workington and barrow will be in the same group . Bit unfair town will get 2 home games and barrow or Haven will have 2 away games Thats... the whole point? 2 4 @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, donald said: So basically whitehaven workington and barrow will be in the same group . Bit unfair town will get 2 home games and barrow or Haven will have 2 away games That's to give Town some much needed revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Parker Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, donald said: So basically whitehaven workington and barrow will be in the same group . Bit unfair town will get 2 home games and barrow or Haven will have 2 away games But the following year if it stays the same you will get more home games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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