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6 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

I hope that the NRL are able to purchase the RFL, for one thing they will not adapt the current rules or the ones coming in next season. And if we are going on about insurance problems they have obviously sorted it out, bring that with them.

Harry, Instead of moaning about the rule changes, just accept them,  they are here to stay. Take your team for example, do you prefer some on the bench with head injuries or out on the field. These rule changes are  for the players benefit.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Those examples weren't voted out by the other clubs in their league...

The direct question was whether any club had been expelled from their league in the UK - with the belief that it hadn't happened. It happens regularly.

Also, I just checked, Super League, the entity with a vote, used its vote to expel Toronto. So if the clubs had delegated the vote to the league then Toronto would still have been expelled.

 

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9 hours ago, Eddie said:

There is a difference that rugby league is interesting to watch for neutrals, whereas Union and cricket aren’t, but agreed there is no way it would work and nor do I believe the NRL think it’s a viable proposition. 

There's a massive Indian population in America - also, in some areas, a decent Caribbean one. The bet from Major League Cricket is that there's enough of them for a sustainable base - followed by just enough engagement from others. It's either that or a massive money laundering operation and I'm honestly yet not decided enough on which is the more likely.

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Interview with Steve Scanlan @ 48mins

Was planning to enter NY team in SL. Now pivoted to a 10 team pro USA league. 3 teams sold so far. Been talking to NRL for 3 months. Presenting to ARLC on Sunday in Vegas. Some board members own minor league baseball teams. Most things are planned. Agile with where teams will be. 2 of 3 licenses have been bought by existing sports clubs owners. $1.5mill US license fee to buy a club license. Aiming for 2025 start up. Looking at late April season start, 16 week comp.

 

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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

Interview with Steve Scanlan @ 48mins

Was planning to enter NY team in SL. Now pivoted to a 10 team pro USA league. 3 teams sold so far. Been talking to NRL for 3 months. Presenting to ARLC on Sunday in Vegas. Some board members own minor league baseball teams. Most things are planned. Agile with where teams will be. 2 of 3 licenses have been bought by existing sports clubs owners. $1.5mill US license fee to buy a club license. Aiming for 2025 start up. Looking at late April season start, 16 week comp.

 

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Great news mate, thanks for that. 

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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

Interview with Steve Scanlan @ 48mins

Was planning to enter NY team in SL. Now pivoted to a 10 team pro USA league. 3 teams sold so far. Been talking to NRL for 3 months. Presenting to ARLC on Sunday in Vegas. Some board members own minor league baseball teams. Most things are planned. Agile with where teams will be. 2 of 3 licenses have been bought by existing sports clubs owners. $1.5mill US license fee to buy a club license. Aiming for 2025 start up. Looking at late April season start, 16 week comp.

 

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This route is much more preferable than entering a team in SL. The game is crying out for a 3rd fully professional league.

Obviously all of the usual caveats apply about whether this will happen and if the necessary finance and backing will materialise.

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Steve Scanlan who couldn't find the money to run the Skolars in League 1?

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15 minutes ago, Damien said:

This route is much more preferable than entering a team in SL. The game is crying out for a 3rd fully professional league.

Obviously all of the usual caveats apply about whether this will happen and if the necessary finance and backing will materialise.

Yeah of course I`m sceptical and wonder whether it`s just more of the hype leading up to this weekend, buying Super League falling into the same category.  He did say in another interview though that funds from the NRL wasn`t necessary and he was more interested in just having their co-operation and shared branding, probably meaning access to and co-operation with the NRL digital arm, amongst other things. Does make you wonder how much we could have to offer if we had a whole world approach to these things though.

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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

Interview with Steve Scanlan @ 48mins

Was planning to enter NY team in SL. Now pivoted to a 10 team pro USA league. 3 teams sold so far. Been talking to NRL for 3 months. Presenting to ARLC on Sunday in Vegas. Some board members own minor league baseball teams. Most things are planned. Agile with where teams will be. 2 of 3 licenses have been bought by existing sports clubs owners. $1.5mill US license fee to buy a club license. Aiming for 2025 start up. Looking at late April season start, 16 week comp.

 

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here we go again

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2 hours ago, gingerjon said:

The direct question was whether any club had been expelled from their league in the UK - with the belief that it hadn't happened. It happens regularly.

Also, I just checked, Super League, the entity with a vote, used its vote to expel Toronto. So if the clubs had delegated the vote to the league then Toronto would still have been expelled.

 

It doesn't happen regularly in the way it does in Rugby League.

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Ok, I am always hoping. The partnership of the NRL with its credibility, contacts and branding could make it work.

Clearly there are issues and worth discussing but there evidently are some key connections with money.

İmagine for a moment. 

The NRL buys Super League, in doing so creates NRL as a global brand. 

TOP TİER 

NRL - Australasia // Europe

SECOND TEİR

NRL America emerges not as a top tier but feeder comp with direct pathways. 

NRL 2 South - QCup / NSW Cup and NZRL / PNGRL? 

NRL 2 North - present championship 

NRL France - elite one with crossovers with the English league. 

The centralised identity could be huge, additionally direct pathways for players in particular to the NRL would be massive. 

ALSO... Although automatic promo / relegation would not exist, if the NRL is in control, with direct exposure and pathway to the top more investors are likely to be involved. 

OBVIOUSLY...there would be numerous provisos. The NRL is not getting in bed with the RFL, or the USA for that matter without their own guarantees and matters of transparency. 

Clearly it needs direct partnership with the present USARL, I think that partnership with the NRL will also ensure this happens, rather than a split developing. 

 

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17 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

It doesn't happen regularly in the way it does in Rugby League.

Toronto certainly was expelled though....it reminded me of this crazy guy in highschool, except this guy was expelled and given alternative instruction....us folks in Toronto got nothing, nadda, ziltch!

Woe am I!!!!!

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Vegas will give the code some profile which when built up sufficiently will allow the possibility of a US comp. I'd like to see this work but don't think it will. It's too early.

My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/

It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course.

It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. 

 

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5 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

Where are they getting the players from for this venture? Been here before haven't we 

Overall it sounds like a massive scam to me ($1.5mn please guv, here's your "team", see ya)

But if it is legit, and did get some traction, the unfortunate truth is that the English game would be pillaged for players in the early years and serious damage would be done.

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6 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

Where are they getting the players from for this venture? Been here before haven't we 

Never mind the players, feel the merch ...

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16 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

Where are they getting the players from for this venture? Been here before haven't we 

If money is no object and they are short of players, there are plenty  of players in Aussie, who haven't made the grade who would jump at the chance to play in this League. Also plenty in Papua New Guinea.

Just sit back and watch the developments instead of being  negative.

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1 hour ago, Gomersall said:

 

Is this like how we were 'in conversations' with Dubai to host the RLWC?

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2 hours ago, frank said:

If money is no object and they are short of players, there are plenty  of players in Aussie, who haven't made the grade who would jump at the chance to play in this League. Also plenty in Papua New Guinea.

Just sit back and watch the developments instead of being  negative.

Not negative just realistic. We've been down this road many times with US RL. We were told that NARL would be bigger than superleague before finding out it was all a scam. RL in the US has a small number of amateur players who cant even agree to play under one governing body and there are currently no more than a handful of players that are of the required quality to play in a professional league. The other code tried to set up a professional league which has crashed an burned mainly due to the costs of bringing in expensive imports and poor attendances. What makes you think this will work? 

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On 25/02/2024 at 19:57, Harry Stottle said:

I hope that the NRL are able to purchase the RFL, for one thing they will not adapt the current rules or the ones coming in next season. And if we are going on about insurance problems they have obviously sorted it out, bring that with them.

If the NRL buys the RFL wouldn't they be taking on the legal action claims as well?

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