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2 hours ago, Derwent Park SC said:

In the second half after Bickerdike went off Stephenson moved to centre and was playing on one leg. Looks like he was struggling with injury, we need some bodies in asap or we will struggle to field a team. 
 

Good effort from the lads today, keep improving and the win will come. 

Signed 3 players this week 

[Sticklebricks]

11 hours ago, town2018 said:

Forber offers nothing and couldn't tackle fresh air yeah we are low on options this year but for what forber offers this year there are plenty better options in the amateur game especially locally 

Buffer was happy to retire last year,but the coach wanted him to go around again,weather he’s good enough or not thank god he’s here,otherwise I might of been playing

[town2018]

1 minute ago, Sticklebricks said:

Buffer was happy to retire last year,but the coach wanted him to go around again,weather he’s good enough or not thank god he’s here,otherwise I might of been playing

Yeah I understand he was happy to retire mate and that decision lies with the coaches as the deal with the signing etc but I can guarantee there are plenty local players who would sign who can offer alot more than he does 

[Onreport]

11 hours ago, DocH said:

Agree Galea mom, need to keep him involved rather than just gathering dust on the wing. Though Key a close 2nd; kept smashing into them just about all game. It was like a game of attack and defence, they practiced their attacking moves and we practiced our goal line defence which was pretty good today but we never threatened much. The team as it is is playing pretty much to its max as I see it. 

Looks like we may lose Bickerdike for a few games now though I was relieved to see him up. No coincidence that they score soon after straight through where he had been.

Yeah, baffles me why they keep swapping JJ when he is one of the  few that actually makes yards consistently, has decent pace aswell for a big guy

[gillmeister]

3 hours ago, town2018 said:

Yeah I understand he was happy to retire mate and that decision lies with the coaches as the deal with the signing etc but I can guarantee there are plenty local players who would sign who can offer alot more than he does 

Im curious who these players are? I watch a decent amount of amateur rugby and I am struggling to name these scrum halfs who can take over from Buffer

Edited June 24, 2024 by gillmeister

[Derwent Parker]

14 hours ago, town2018 said:

Forber offers nothing and couldn't tackle fresh air yeah we are low on options this year but for what forber offers this year there are plenty better options in the amateur game especially locally 

What's the benefit of personal attacks on individual players?

If he's that bad "in your opinion alone" then Git yourself down to DP at training and show him how to do it and wear your Town2018 tee shirt, if he cant tackle fresh air then your safe. If your wrong he might shut you up.

All this negative comments you are making - sounds like you live down the road with our Jam Eating neighbours?

[anok4u]

9 minutes ago, Derwent Parker said:

What's the benefit of personal attacks on individual players?

If he's that bad "in your opinion alone" then Git yourself down to DP at training and show him how to do it and wear your Town2018 tee shirt, if he cant tackle fresh air then your safe. If your wrong he might shut you up.

All this negative comments you are making - sounds like you live down the road with our Jam Eating neighbours?

Well said

[homeandawayer]

34 minutes ago, anok4u said:

Well said

Regarding Buffer on a more positive note as I said earlier he did yesterday what I've been crying out for him to do. He's not going to make clean breaks but he's good at getting his arms through the tackle which is where someone should be on his shoulder for the pass. I suppose though ig depends if you know when he's going to do it!

[town2018]

1 hour ago, gillmeister said:

Im curious who these players are? I watch a decent amount of amateur rugby and I am struggling to name these scrum halfs who can take over from Buffer

There's definitely 2 more than capable half backs at elbra 1 at maryport who has been at town previously 1 off the best about at distington the list goes on mate and all could do what forber does now and more 

[town2018]

1 hour ago, Derwent Parker said:

What's the benefit of personal attacks on individual players?

If he's that bad "in your opinion alone" then Git yourself down to DP at training and show him how to do it and wear your Town2018 tee shirt, if he cant tackle fresh air then your safe. If your wrong he might shut you up.

All this negative comments you are making - sounds like you live down the road with our Jam Eating neighbours?

Not a personal attack just putting my opinion across regarding a player who is way past his best and not the level off player that is going to take this club up the table 

As for coming training that's the coaches jobs to identify what needs done but all they keep saying is the effort off the team can't be faulted but the league table says different 

And as for me apparently been a haven fan if you speak with our directors they will answer that for you as I have approached them on numerous occasions on issues I have spoke about on here 

[Neutralfan7]

3 minutes ago, town2018 said:

There's definitely 2 more than capable half backs at elbra 1 at maryport who has been at town previously 1 off the best about at distington the list goes on mate and all could do what forber does now and more 

What makes you think they'll want to sign? It's not a case of who's good enough, more a case of, who's good enough and WANTS to sign. Same problem with a lot of local players nowadays, more than happy to play with their mates on a Saturday and enjoy their weekend.

 

5 minutes ago, town2018 said:

There's definitely 2 more than capable half backs at elbra 1 at maryport who has been at town previously 1 off the best about at distington the list goes on mate and all could do what forber does now and more 

 

[gillmeister]

26 minutes ago, Neutralfan7 said:

What makes you think they'll want to sign? It's not a case of who's good enough, more a case of, who's good enough and WANTS to sign. Same problem with a lot of local players nowadays, more than happy to play with their mates on a Saturday and enjoy their weekend.

 

 

This. Three of the named lads are over 30, the travel and commitment is huge, the money in the game shrinking and its going to be harder and harder to recruit going forward

[town2018]

24 minutes ago, gillmeister said:

This. Three of the named lads are over 30, the travel and commitment is huge, the money in the game shrinking and its going to be harder and harder to recruit going forward

Yeah I agree all are 30 ish but how old is forber over 30 

But I guarantee there will be another young walker in Cumbria somewhere I personally just want to see someone take the line on like walker does and plays off the cuff rugby within reason rather than forber who just catches and passes the ball and puts the odd kick in 

[dkw]

So you want 2 half backs together who both take the line on and play off the cuff, you think thats a good game plan do you? Its what weve had with Sammut and Walker playing together, and its been a disaster, and is more often than not totally unworkable.

[Derwent Parker]

2 hours ago, town2018 said:

Not a personal attack just putting my opinion across regarding a player who is way past his best and not the level off player that is going to take this club up the table 

As for coming training that's the coaches jobs to identify what needs done but all they keep saying is the effort off the team can't be faulted but the league table says different 

And as for me apparently been a haven fan if you speak with our directors they will answer that for you as I have approached them on numerous occasions on issues I have spoke about on here 

Of course its a personal attack- If you put a name on it!

Saying "the team are not tackling good enough " is not a personal attack

But blaming and naming an individual as you did is definitely personal, even if you state its just your opinion, just like it is my opinion to state you not really proving you know what you are talking about - hence the reason I thought you may live in Jam land because you are acting like it?

Also I never suggested you go to training to help the coaches  - I said go down to DP at training and show/tell him and wear your Town2018 tee shirt, if he cant tackle fresh air then your safe. If your wrong he might shut you up.

Going and talking with directors is admirable and could be useful - slagging off an individual anonymously on a forum is cowardly

[homeandawayer]

When you aren't scoring the halfbacks come in for stick but notice the great tackles Walker made yesterday..credit where it's due. The Sammut situation has been a major disappointment, we need a classy player to give us that spark we need and even when he played he wasn't the JS of old. If there's none locally it looks like the Aussie route will need to be taken for next season assuming Forber will retire this time.

Edited June 24, 2024 by homeandawayer

[silverfox]

Some of the comments about CARL are uncalled for. So called supporters should be ashamed to single out one individual .    People going on about there is better  local players   Well  i will ask you , these so called  better players  , who are they playing against !  .Other amateurs ,and the teams  been mentioned are in L2 of the NCL . And why are they playing in that league if there so good . Carl is playing against  seasoned professionals  some even ex super league.  In a division a lot higher  than the locals  in the NCL . The last two week ive been to  watch WathBrow  against two of the top teams  Siddal and Hunslet in the NCL  and not one of there players could step up into L1  and stand out . Carl would if he was playing in them teams . There is a HUGE difference from the amateur leagues ,  to playing as a semi or proffessional  in RL  L1 . So to say there are better players playing local , you need to think again . And on another note Carl Forber  has tackled way above his weight all is career . for people to criticise a player who as been a model professional all his career is way out of order .  

[Neutralfan7]

14 minutes ago, silverfox said:

The last two week ive been to  watch WathBrow  against two of the top teams  Siddal and Hunslet in the NCL  and not one of there players could step up into L1  and stand out .

The only point of this post I disagree with, I think there is maybe a couple from each NCL prem local team who could make the step up

[bobg]

I think a few people are getting a bit carried away here after yesterday’s match, I have just watched the game back on Sportsman and was quite surprised at the level of intensity we played at, yes we made mistakes and bad optional decisions during the the game but on reflection IMO playing like that we would have beaten, with exception of perhaps Keighley, most of the other teams in the league. We need to do it week in week out , easier said than done.

[silverfox]

I've nothing wrong  with peoples opinions .Its  just the way that it was coming across and Carl seemed to be getting  the brunt ,of the way the team were performing  . Its a team game  so one should not be singled out .

[Gillmeister80]

3 hours ago, Neutralfan7 said:

The only point of this post I disagree with, I think there is maybe a couple from each NCL prem local team who could make the step up

True. But they come with a premium for sacrificing international tours etc 

[homeandawayer]

3 hours ago, silverfox said:

Some of the comments about CARL are uncalled for. So called supporters should be ashamed to single out one individual .    People going on about there is better  local players   Well  i will ask you , these so called  better players  , who are they playing against !  .Other amateurs ,and the teams  been mentioned are in L2 of the NCL . And why are they playing in that league if there so good . Carl is playing against  seasoned professionals  some even ex super league.  In a division a lot higher  than the locals  in the NCL . The last two week ive been to  watch WathBrow  against two of the top teams  Siddal and Hunslet in the NCL  and not one of there players could step up into L1  and stand out . Carl would if he was playing in them teams . There is a HUGE difference from the amateur leagues ,  to playing as a semi or proffessional  in RL  L1 . So to say there are better players playing local , you need to think again . And on another note Carl Forber  has tackled way above his weight all is career . for people to criticise a player who as been a model professional all his career is way out of order .  

You said people..I think you'll find it was one person. Hardly representative of all of us.

[Cumberland Sausage]

The fact he is in our Hall of Fame speaks volumes for Carl.Also the fact that he is pulling on the shirt and giving his all for us while in reality he should be on the sidelines helping on the coaching side and passing on his wealth of knowledge to our younger players speaks volumes for the character of the man.That he is willing to put his body through all that punishment to help us through this massive injury crisis shows me that like all the players going onto that pitch he deserves my support and applause. 

Edited June 24, 2024 by Cumberland Sausage

[Death to the Rah Rah's]

19 hours ago, gillmeister said:

Im curious who these players are? I watch a decent amount of amateur rugby and I am struggling to name these scrum halfs who can take over from Buffer

I can't think of any either. Clubwise, Cumbria has bucked the trend and hasn't lost too many amateur clubs in the last 10-15 years, but regular followers of the amateur game would concur that there there's only a small handful of players locally that would significantly improve the team. There certainly doesn't seem to be the quality of player there was 25-30 years ago in the amateur game.

What's the answer? I honestly don't know.

Despite not having academies or A teams, the clubs in and around Lancs and Yorks still have access to those players who don't make the cut at Superleague teams, whereas us clubs in the sticks ...Whitehaven, Barrow, Town and Cornwall are just left to fight for scraps and pay over the odds to persuade players to do a 5-6 hour round journey on matchdays.

There's little to no support from the RFL, who just seem to be interested in Super league and nothing else.

We don't have enough youth players locally to support our own Academy team, that's before taking into account the RFL  wouldn't let us in the league anyway. So the perfect storm and I really really feel for the directors at all the Cumbrian clubs who are fighting to keep RL alive in the area.

I'm prepared to get shot down here, but I honesty believe a merger with Whitehaven will happen in the next few years as it isn't viable to carry to with 2 clubs fighting for the very limited player, spectator and sponsorship pool we have in West Cumbria.   

 

[Derwent Parker]

3 hours ago, Death to the Rah Rah's said:

I can't think of any either. Clubwise, Cumbria has bucked the trend and hasn't lost too many amateur clubs in the last 10-15 years, but regular followers of the amateur game would concur that there there's only a small handful of players locally that would significantly improve the team. There certainly doesn't seem to be the quality of player there was 25-30 years ago in the amateur game.

What's the answer? I honestly don't know.

Despite not having academies or A teams, the clubs in and around Lancs and Yorks still have access to those players who don't make the cut at Superleague teams, whereas us clubs in the sticks ...Whitehaven, Barrow, Town and Cornwall are just left to fight for scraps and pay over the odds to persuade players to do a 5-6 hour round journey on matchdays.

There's little to no support from the RFL, who just seem to be interested in Super league and nothing else.

We don't have enough youth players locally to support our own Academy team, that's before taking into account the RFL  wouldn't let us in the league anyway. So the perfect storm and I really really feel for the directors at all the Cumbrian clubs who are fighting to keep RL alive in the area.

I'm prepared to get shot down here, but I honesty believe a merger with Whitehaven will happen in the next few years as it isn't viable to carry to with 2 clubs fighting for the very limited player, spectator and sponsorship pool we have in West Cumbria.   

 

Agreed with everything you said - upto last paragraph and for that you deserve to be shot!!

Merger will NEVER work and should not even be mentioned.