Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 2 hours ago, M j M said: As with Salford, the public has zero right to that knowledge, as in any business transaction. Anyone demanding it doesn't understand how this works. We never demanded to know about Parkin, Glover or Ellis during our previous take overs. It seemed normal at the time and I'm sure examples regarding other clubs exist. Open knowledge makes the whole process reassuring and bona fide even if they fail at the end. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son
M j M Posted February 1 Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said: We never demanded to know about Parkin, Glover or Ellis during our previous take overs. It seemed normal at the time and I'm sure examples regarding other clubs exist. Open knowledge makes the whole process reassuring and bona fide even if they fail at the end. Like I said, if the people involved want their names to be public, fine. If not, also fine. Reassuring third parties isn't really an important thing. This is all media-induced hype.
PREPOSTEROUS Posted February 1 Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, M j M said: Like I said, if the people involved want their names to be public, fine. If not, also fine. Reassuring third parties isn't really an important thing. This is all media-induced hype. Understand your point, but reassuring fans, who as Salford have experienced, either hold out due to lack of info or, reportedly, want their money back is important. 2
Agbrigg Posted February 1 Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, JohnM said: Clearly, people are more interested in club problems than the actual game. (Cas will be OK) but the Salfod situation could have very serious ramifications for the game. Maybe that is the reason for all the interest because it could effect every SL club one way or another,
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 (edited) 15 minutes ago, M j M said: Like I said, if the people involved want their names to be public, fine. If not, also fine. Reassuring third parties isn't really an important thing. This is all media-induced hype. I wonder if Russell Crowe wanted his name bandied about? Edited February 1 by Wollo Wollo Wayoo 1 This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son
The Masked Poster Posted February 1 Posted February 1 44 minutes ago, M j M said: No. Why do you or anyone outside Salford and maybe the RFL need to know names? If they want to be publicly announced, fine. If not, then it's none of anyone's business. Of course they don't have to. It just might give a bit more credibility than a generic "overseas investment group" and might reassure other clubs that they will be starting the season. That's all.
The Masked Poster Posted February 1 Posted February 1 42 minutes ago, JohnM said: This topic, Cas Takeover Delays has attracted 1k views and 22 replies at this time. This topic SuperLeague 2025 : Castleford Tigers, season preview has 67 views and no replies. Similar figures for the equivalent Salford topics. Clearly, people are more interested in club problems than the actual game. I'm not sure why you are so keen to police this forum. People will talk/argue about things that they want to talk/argue about. What is it to you if people have preferences? And given no game has yet taken place that is a pretty pointless analogy. 1
M j M Posted February 1 Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said: Of course they don't have to. It just might give a bit more credibility than a generic "overseas investment group" and might reassure other clubs that they will be starting the season. That's all. I just don't think reassuring other parties or giving credibility to the public is particularly important. Feeding the Rugby League media wouldn't be a top priority.
The Masked Poster Posted February 1 Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, M j M said: I just don't think reassuring other parties or giving credibility to the public is particularly important. Feeding the Rugby League media wouldn't be a top priority. Well it's been well over a week since the last announcement, which suggested something was going to happen imminently. It's up to them but I don't think many people are reassured that it will actually happen. IMO
M j M Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Just now, The Masked Poster said: Well it's been well over a week since the last announcement, which suggested something was going to happen imminently. It's up to them but I don't think many people are reassured that it will actually happen. IMO I keep coming back to it though, who cares if people reading the news are reassured? The only people who matter here are the parties who are directly involved. 1
The Masked Poster Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Just now, M j M said: I keep coming back to it though, who cares if people reading the news are reassured? The only people who matter here are the parties who are directly involved. People like those involved in other clubs who want to know how proposed matches might be affected, or maybe debtors owed money? Don't they matter?
Charlie Posted February 1 Posted February 1 32 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said: Of course they don't have to. It just might give a bit more credibility than a generic "overseas investment group" and might reassure other clubs that they will be starting the season. That's all. All the jernos seem confident the group is real
Charlie Posted February 1 Posted February 1 13 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said: People like those involved in other clubs who want to know how proposed matches might be affected, or maybe debtors owed money? Don't they matter? As I goes yes it’s unfortunate but people involved in other clubs have no right to no, and as off right now other then the council no one is owed anything
DoubleD Posted February 1 Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Charlie said: All the jernos seem confident the group is real Sorry to be a pedant but there is no ‘e’ in the word journalist. The abbreviation should be journo(s) 1
wasginger Posted February 1 Posted February 1 While I have a bit of sympathy for Cas. Every time they've tried moving to a new stadium things have gone t**s up. Even last season putting seats in the Princess St stand was a sticking plaster solution. Cas have promised for well over 25 years to do something. When you look at other clubs like Hull KR who got promoted from the Championship and improved not only the ground but the fans match day experience. Even Wakefield who took nearly as long to renovate their ground, are still improving even after the building the new stand. Sadly we've reached a point in the game where it's no longer good enough just treading water each season. 1
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 1 Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, wasginger said: While I have a bit of sympathy for Cas. Every time they've tried moving to a new stadium things have gone t**s up. Even last season putting seats in the Princess St stand was a sticking plaster solution. Cas have promised for well over 25 years to do something. When you look at other clubs like Hull KR who got promoted from the Championship and improved not only the ground but the fans match day experience. Even Wakefield who took nearly as long to renovate their ground, are still improving even after the building the new stand. Sadly we've reached a point in the game where it's no longer good enough just treading water each season. Try doubling that. They first said they were moving to Glasshoughton in the mid 70s - one day I'll get round to searching out the story from the P&C Express archive. 2
Adelaide Tiger Posted February 1 Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Try doubling that. They first said they were moving to Glasshoughton in the mid 70s - one day I'll get round to searching out the story from the P&C Express archive. That would be really interesting as I cannot remember anything about such a move ….. although I would have been 11/12 in the mid 70’s. I can only imagine that such a proposal would have been some land next to Glasshoughton pit.
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 hours ago, Adelaide Tiger said: That would be really interesting as I cannot remember anything about such a move ….. although I would have been 11/12 in the mid 70’s. I can only imagine that such a proposal would have been some land next to Glasshoughton pit. I remember going to school one Thursday and being asked if I'd seen the story in the P&C. Yes, I'm pretty sure it was going to be on the old pit site, possibly around where the college is now.
M j M Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Why has there been this constant determination to move Cas out of Cas? I can't imagine Wheldon Rd is worth that much as redevelopment land.
sweaty craiq Posted February 2 Posted February 2 52 minutes ago, M j M said: Why has there been this constant determination to move Cas out of Cas? I can't imagine Wheldon Rd is worth that much as redevelopment land. A recent valuation was that a buyer would get £3.7m for taking it 2
Tommygilf Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 01/02/2025 at 16:33, PREPOSTEROUS said: Understand your point, but reassuring fans, who as Salford have experienced, either hold out due to lack of info or, reportedly, want their money back is important. Absolutely. RL clubs are businesses that only exist due to public interest in them. In the case of our sport that is often hyper local levels of public interest. Without those fans any club would cease to exist. Fans of a club have a right to know what is going on, even if the details are kept private. Indeed as a prospective new owner, I have no idea why you would want to be anonymous - unless you were controversial in some way or another. Building up a relationship with the fanbase is a massively important aspect of club ownership. 4
M j M Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Many people involved in a takeover which has fallen through don't want their details to be public. That's just the real world and why many or most get announced after the deal is done.
JohnM Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 01/02/2025 at 16:43, The Masked Poster said: I'm not sure why you are so keen to police this forum. People will talk/argue about things that they want to talk/argue about. What is it to you if people have preferences? And given no game has yet taken place that is a pretty pointless analogy. I'll leave it to others to judge if you are accidentally or deliberately misunderstanding my position. It's called OPINION, not POLICING. On the topic of Salford, Castleford, Huddersfield, Featherstone, Bradford, London, (and whoever is next) in my opinion there has been among some, but only some, a genuine desire to discuss, to seek understanding, clarification and positive outcomes. Asking the same question every five minutes on this topic yet showing no interest in a professional assesment of the teams wishes, hopes and expectations for the coming season seems to me to indicate on the part of some , an odd position. The "Dark Ages" is a term referring to life at the RFL under the new regime. It's characterized by a decline in openness, professionalism, transparency and achievements,
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