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8 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Yup.  They also don't like black stormtroopers...

 

Sorry I’m being a bit thick here, can you explain? 


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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Sorry I’m being a bit thick here, can you explain? 

When the latest batch of films came out there were people calling for boycott, some because there was a black stormtrooper, Finn (disney pushing a diversity message) and the main lead being a girl (pushing a feminist agenda).

These calls got louder and have resulted in the gaming of review sites to give negative scores, etc. And calls for boycotts.

 


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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15 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

When the latest batch of films came out there were people calling for boycott, some because there was a black stormtrooper, Finn (disney pushing a diversity message) and the main lead being a girl (pushing a feminist agenda).

These calls got louder and have resulted in the gaming of review sites to give negative scores, etc. And calls for boycotts.

 

Thanks and oh dear me!!!!


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9 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

...calls for boycotts.

 

Which maybe working as it looks like it'll be the first Star Wars film to be a financial flop.

 

Personally I enjoyed it.


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9 hours ago, Phil said:

Sorry I’m being a bit thick here, can you explain? 

Phil, this kind of thing.

To be fair, this is quite mild compared to some opinions on the tinterweb 

 


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13 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

When the latest batch of films came out there were people calling for boycott, some because there was a black stormtrooper, Finn (disney pushing a diversity message) and the main lead being a girl (pushing a feminist agenda).

These calls got louder and have resulted in the gaming of review sites to give negative scores, etc. And calls for boycotts.

They can happily accept a Star Wars universe that contains all manner of weird and wonderful creatures like wookies, Yoda and Jabba the Hut, but can't get their heads round the notion that the humanoid characters can have different colour skin and aren't all male?

Blimey, how sad are some folk.

Good job the internet didn't exist when the original trilogy came out or we'd probably never have got past The Empire Strikes Back - in which one of the leading characters - Lando Calrissian - careful, whisper it... isn't white!! 

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Very strange . I’m sure Princess Leia was quite prominent to . All that matters is how good the films are . The latest one was poor for me , but looking that much into it - in a fantasy universe , really is pretty bizarre 

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55 minutes ago, John Drake said:

They can happily accept a Star Wars universe that contains all manner of weird and wonderful creatures like wookies, Yoda and Jabba the Hut, alongside but can't get their heads round the notion that the humanoid characters can have different colour skin and aren't all male?

Blimey, how sad are some folk.

Good job the internet didn't exist when the original trilogy came out or we'd probably never have got past The Empire Strikes Back - in which one of the leading characters - Yoda - careful, whisper it... isn't white!! 

To account for Yoda's green colour changed it I have.

Chewbacca was brown as I recall, so was Jar-Jar Binks although the hatred aimed at him was not for the colour of his CGId skin

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4 hours ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

Phil, this kind of thing.

To be fair, this is quite mild compared to some opinions on the tinterweb 

 

You won't be surprised to learn the guy (3,000 followers) is also very angry about the SJW takeover of Star Wars and that Miss America won't feature a swimsuit round any more.


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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

You won't be surprised to learn the guy (3,000 followers) is also very angry about the SJW takeover of Star Wars and that Miss America won't feature a swimsuit round any more.

It's worth following that link for the word "mantrum" alone ?

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2 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

You won't be surprised to learn the guy (3,000 followers) is also very angry about the SJW takeover of Star Wars and that Miss America won't feature a swimsuit round any more.

Bet he can't wait for this woman to turn up and save Iron-man, Hulk, Thor etc. ?

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I've been to see the new Solo film (new Light cinema in Bradford, which is fantastic) and I really enjoyed it. But that's as far as I go with films , I watch them occasionally and enjoy them or not. But don't get into discussions and arguments about them,  its just a film.

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1 hour ago, Shadow said:

Following a suitable period of reflection

 

Batman_v_Superman_-_Wonder_Woman.jpg

Sorry, just felt I had to quote this post.

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Firstly I'd like to say I'm a big star wars fan and am a member/follower of various Star Wars groups/youtube channels etc. A lot of the stuff out there is simplistic and is definitely misogynistic. However there are some kernels of truth within a lot of it from the global fanbase perspective.

I think the flop of Solo is multi-faceted. Undoubtedly negative backlash towards The Last Jedi is a part of it; a backlash in itself which is multi-faceted. This is compounded by the relatively low-key release of the film 2 weeks after Avengers Infinity War and 6 months after the controversial Last Jedi. Moreover this isn't really a movie people were crying out for, so demand was already low.

For me that is very poor planning by Disney who could have held this film to December. Equally, this film doing so poorly (prediction $150-170 million vs reality of just over $100 million on the US long weekend) only fuels those in the fandom who are saying "women are ruining Star Wars". 

What I would say is that I would hope Disney would rethink their apparent current strategy of using Star Wars and fans of Star Wars as a cashcow. Equally storytelling and character development seems incoherent, forced at times, which feed into the feeling of cashcows. Unlike in the Marvel Movies or other fantasy sagas some things in TLJ felt both forced and indeed silly - and this is a direction which the box office takings would indicate a lot of people don't approve of.  

Its a shame because Solo appears to be quite well received by those that went to see it. 

 

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13 minutes ago, RidingPie said:

no and indeed... I don't think it would gratuitous to post more!

We used to have a Beautiful People thread.

Just saying, like ...

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1 hour ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

I don’t mind discussing a film to an extent, but I find the harrassing of actors by way of social media symptomatic of some kind of personality disorder.

The girl who played Rose in the last Star Wars has been hounded off social media.  


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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3 hours ago, Shadow said:

Following a suitable period of reflection

 

Batman_v_Superman_-_Wonder_Woman.jpg

That is pretty gratuitous.


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A lad I used to work with is possibly the biggest Star Wars geek on earth. But when Last Jedi was out at Xmas, I said I enjoyed it (I did!!) Well blow me down if he didn't go off on one about how bad it was. I was like 'er,.….. OK' :unsure:

I never got to the bottom of it and Ieft just after Xmas so still don't get the beef.

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24 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

That is pretty gratuitous.

I reflected on it for a suitable period of time and felt it wasn't.

Gingerjon and Riding Pie agree with me.

So by a 3 : 1 majority it isn't.

Get over it snowflake.

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16 minutes ago, Shadow said:

I reflected on it for a suitable period of time and felt it wasn't.

Gingerjon and Riding Pie agree with me.

So by a 3 : 1 majority it isn't.

Get over it snowflake.

And yet I quoted the picture and you quoted me.

For shame!


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