Swinton player accuses Toronto owner of racial abuse

[Damien]

50 minutes ago, dkw said:

So basically agree with you or you decide we're racist? Is that really a good attitude to have? 

It does seem like that doesn't it

[dhw]

4 hours ago, Mushy said:

Err claiming a lot of Australian humour and society is racist is also racist isn’t it? I didn’t see any irony emoticons so just thought I’d point that out. 

It would be anti-Australian and inaccurate but it cannot be racist.

 

[Damien]

6 minutes ago, Dave T said:

What an absolutely bizarre thing to say.

To be fair I can see where he is coming from. People make mistakes, slip of the tongue, misguided comments etc. However there isn't much excuse for a governing body that has plenty of time to review and analyse what happened not acting.

[fighting irish]

1 hour ago, Mr Plow said:

Really? Saying to a black person “do they allow black people in Swinton?” It would be like going up to a black person on at the front of the bus and asking them if they were allowed to sit there

That's a poor analogy Mr P.

Its more like welcoming him onto the bus (and perhaps paying his fare) and asking him if he's allowed on the buses in Swinton. 

[Dave T]

21 minutes ago, Damien said:

To be fair I can see where he is coming from. People make mistakes, slip of the tongue, misguided comments etc. However there isn't much excuse for a governing body that has plenty of time to review and analyse what happened not acting.

Not if you are pretty forgiving of the incident anyway (which the poster was), surely you would be ok with the RFL taking no more action. But I havent seen it said anywhere that the RFL knew anything.

But, even if the RFL did mishandle, that isnt worse than a racist offence.

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

2 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Not if you are pretty forgiving of the incident anyway (which the poster was), surely you would be ok with the RFL taking no more action. But I havent seen it said anywhere that the RFL knew anything.

But, even if the RFL did mishandle, that isnt worse than a racist offence.

To ignore the comment would imply that it is supported and condoned by the RFL. That a governing body took that view would be a much more serious situation, and have far greater consequences (eg perceived image, likely loss of potential funding through grants/sponsorship etc) than an individual having that same view.

[RobertAM]

My suggestion; We are playing Swinton this Sunday, before the game David Argyle should ask for a microphone, walk out on the field and apologize to all the fans in attendance and watching on SKY, shake Kenga's hand while saying he made a stupid, insensitive, racist remark which was a one of. Then we get on with the game and with life. I've met him dozens of times and I'm pretty confident he isn't Hitler 2.0.

[Kayakman]

4 minutes ago, RobertAM said:

My suggestion; We are playing Swinton this Sunday, before the game David Argyle should ask for a microphone, walk out on the field and apologize to all the fans in attendance and watching on SKY, shake Kenga's hand while saying he made a stupid, insensitive, racist remark which was a one of. Then we get on with the game and with life. I've met him dozens of times and I'm pretty confident he isn't Hitler 2.0.

AND make a small monetary donation to a local anti racism cause in the name of the offended player?

[ojx]

22 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

To ignore the comment would imply that it is supported and condoned by the RFL. That a governing body took that view would be a much more serious situation, and have far greater consequences (eg perceived image, likely loss of potential funding through grants/sponsorship etc) than an individual having that same view.

I agree , the RFL, supporting the comment with their silence, makes it look as though Swinton really is a town of racists.

[Kayakman]

3 minutes ago, ojx said:

I agree , the RFL, supporting the comment with their silence, make it look as though Swinton really is a town of racists.

Is there a history of racism in Swinton against people of colour????...If so, Argyle could possibly be seen as just making a statement of fact which was misconstrued?  I don't think he should have said it either way though and he has apologized.

[RobertAM]

3 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

AND make a small monetary donation to a local anti racism cause in the name of the offended player?

No..a large donation!

[Kayakman]

Just now, RobertAM said:

No..a large donation!

A small donation by Argyle is a LARGE donation from the likes of us Robert.

[Spidey]

 

[Man of Kent]

9 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

Is there a history of racism in Swinton against people of colour????...If so, Argyle could possibly be seen as just making a statement of fact which was misconstrued? 

Yeah, Swinton is infamous for its racism

In fact there is a sign when you drive in that states ‘Welcome to Swinton. Black People Will Be Automatically Assumed To Be Inferior Due To Their Skin Colour ’

[Stirlin]

5 hours ago, dkw said:

Twitter, ladies and gentlemen, twitter. 

Correction....Twatter.

[Kayakman]

7 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Yeah, Swinton is infamous for its racism

In fact there is a sign when you drive in that states ‘Welcome to Swinton. Black People Will Be Automatically Assumed To Be Inferior Due To Their Skin Colour ’

Talk about blowing things totally out of proportion!...next thing you know is you will just pull crowd figures out of thin air and claim they are true even though you know they are false....say it ain't so!...say it ain't so MofK.

[Phil]

18 hours ago, ojx said:

Storm ..  teacup.

"do they allow black people in Swinton"  ... just a very bad attempt at humour.

No it’s not it’s racism 

[Chris22]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoseKenga/status/1137060693713313792

Update from Kenga

[Man of Kent]

8 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

Talk about blowing things totally out of proportion!...next thing you know is you will just pull crowd figures out of thin air and claim they are true even though you know they are false....say it ain't so!...say it ain't so MofK.

There’s two types of people on this forum, my friend. 

Those who take rugby league crowd figures with a pinch of salt, and suckers. I know which you are, Kayak 

[Dave T]

44 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

The quote from Kenga, having "gone about things the right way" that would be to report it to the RFL as the disciplinary.

I'm not sure that necessarily follows. He doesn't appear to complain about the RFL at all.

[Dave T]

45 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

It isn't bizarre in the slightest. It would be an absolute dereliction of their safeguarding duty by the RFL. 

Not if it was reported and it was deemed over and done with. You don't think it is a huge deal, maybe they didnt either.

Maybe they just thought it was like us calling French people frogs too.

Or of course, there is no evidence that the RFL havent done owt. 

Bug even if so, they may have got it wrong, but it isnt worse than the offence.

[Kayakman]

2 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

There’s two types of people on this forum, my friend. 

Those who take rugby league crowd figures with a pinch of salt, and suckers. I know which you are, Kayak 

Nice to see that famous open mind once again at high level work...OHHH!!!! the permutations and combinations at play in that large open void..   Let me help you get started but I  don't want to lose you just yet: 1+1=2.

[Kayakman]

7 minutes ago, Chris22 said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoseKenga/status/1137060693713313792

Draw and quarter Argyle next...then burn the body....that will teach him!

[Dave T]

1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

To ignore the comment would imply that it is supported and condoned by the RFL. That a governing body took that view would be a much more serious situation, and have far greater consequences (eg perceived image, likely loss of potential funding through grants/sponsorship etc) than an individual having that same view.

There is no evidence it was ignored.

But a governing body cocking up (if they did) is not worse than a racist offence.

But, for some strange reason, this debate is no longer about the racist slur, it is about frogs, the RFL, offended people etc.

This distraction happens every time. Just surprised gingers havent been brought into it yet.

[Kayakman]

8 minutes ago, Dave T said:

There is no evidence it was ignored.

But a governing body cocking up (if they did) is not worse than a racist offence.

But, for some strange reason, this debate is no longer about the racist slur, it is about frogs, the RFL, offended people etc.

This distraction happens every time. Just surprised gingers havent been brought into it yet.

This incident is being blown totally out of proportion.  The guy made an insensitive racially charged remark to a person of colour; that is clearly wrong (on many levels) and he has apologized both publicly and privately...he regrets his stupid error..

He has been accused on Twitter, of all places, of 'racial abuse' which is certainly a stretch.  Abuse of this nature would exhibit a pattern of behaviour and nothing has been put forward to support that.

Now a crusade is beginning to develop...time to let this one go.  I'm sure people from Leigh will be on here shortly....