Promotion Criteria Publicised

[Oxford 5,023]

1 minute ago, The Blues Ox said:

That rules Bradford out then.

Unless there's fine print.

 

Just now, Dave T said:

This is a dishonest point. They aren't looking for a club to deliver 2k crowds in SL. 

It's a bit like "If we make it too hard no one'll turn up!"

[Magic XIII 229]

31 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

 London have had plenty of chances so now its another teams chance.

Like being relegated at the last game of the 2019 season having won more games than any other relegated team before, even the much vaunted Leigh Centurions; granted the team has changed but we deserve a chance at redemption !

[redjonn 1,247]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

These two tweets sum up some valid concerns

Maybe but its an independent panel...

Of course we can always say their be influenced from outside... but then that's the way conspiracy theories work, especially when we don't get who we want..

If their was weighting we would be saying their deliberately setting those weights to suit a particular club...

We will always find something to shout "foul "about... again if it ain't someone we want...

[Tommygilf 7,017]

Just now, redjonn said:

Maybe but its an independent panel...

Of course we can always say their be influenced from outside... but then that's the way conspiracy theories work, especially when we don't get who we want..

If their was weighting we would be saying their deliberately setting those weights to suit a particular club...

We will always find something to shout "foul "about... again if it ain't someone we want...

Exactly, we've already had the assertion that the RFL favours Bradford so they can get some rent out of Odsal

[RobertAM 2,427]

2 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

The criteria cover the following categories:

a. Market Size and Commercial Potential

b. Future Performance and Growth Plans

c. Playing Performance

d. Facilities and ability to host live TV Broadcast and key partners

e. Finance and Sustainability

f. Ownership, Management and Governance

forgot g) whether El Stoned likes the cut of your jib  = weighting factor 90%

[Lowdesert 3,106]

4 minutes ago, redjonn said:

Maybe but its an independent panel...

Of course we can always say their be influenced from outside... but then that's the way conspiracy theories work, especially when we don't get who we want..

If their was weighting we would be saying their deliberately setting those weights to suit a particular club...

We will always find something to shout "foul "about... again if it ain't someone we want...

Nah.  Too much evidence based.  I like some of Matts stuff but he’s a bit off with this one.

It would be interesting to hear Mick Gledhills take on it though

[Tommygilf 7,017]

4 minutes ago, RobertAM said:

forgot g) whether El Stoned likes the cut of your jib  = weighting factor 90%

Fair. As is later stated, the criteria have no equal weight and its all down to the panel's discretion.

[binosh 156]

Although I suspect the club has already been pre selected, that report and criteria is a lot more in depth than I was expecting.

[Tommygilf 7,017]

5 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

Nah.  Too much evidence based.  I like some of Matts stuff but he’s a bit off with this one.

It would be interesting to hear Mick Gledhills take on it though

Nothing on this specifically yet

[Hela Wigmen 2,265]

Mad Mick making stuff up again 

 

[The Phantom Horseman 2,112]

10 minutes ago, Magic XIII said:

Like being relegated at the last game of the 2019 season having won more games than any other relegated team before, even the much vaunted Leigh Centurions; granted the team has changed but we deserve a chance at redemption !

The London team that finished bottom in 2019 is unrecognisable from the motley crew you have now. London were absolutely dominated in all departments by Fev at Ealing in March and have subsequently lost 5 or 6 players from that moderate team with no notable signings. As it stands, London are probably closer to a relegation battle in 2021 than to being a SL team. Virtually everything about them is trending in a negative direction, notably attendances. They're easy to rule out.

[Tommygilf 7,017]

2 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

The London team that finished bottom in 2019 is unrecognisable from the motley crew you have now. London were absolutely dominated in all departments by Fev at Ealing in March and have subsequently lost 5 or 6 players from that moderate team with no notable signings. As it stands, London are probably closer to a relegation battle in 2021 than to being a SL team. Virtually everything about them is trending in a negative direction, notably attendances. They're easy to rule out.

Come on

[Lowdesert 3,106]

12 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Nothing on this specifically yet

Yeah.  ‘I’m hearing...’

Unfortunately, giving up a million isn’t in the committee remit.  That too would be interesting if submitted, especially the look on Moorhouses and Sutton’s faces! 

[RayCee 1,732]

Of course there have to be minimum standards set. I assume the degree of flexibility the panel has will be exercised when they look at potential and the overall benefit for the game. Toulouse for example may have crowds that swell considerably once in SL. It would allow a local derby scenario with the Dragons. It would lift the profile of the game in the French media (hopefully). It may attract TV interest in France.

If that scrutiny was applied to each candidate (and surely it will), then the minimum requirements highlights the qualifiers and the real work of who would offer the game the most commences. 

[Gerrumonside ref 2,392]

What kind of crowds would Bradford get in Super League in 2021?

[The Phantom Horseman 2,112]

11 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Come on

It's true. Have you seen the squad as it stands at the moment? Support remains very poor, communication to fans has been terrible for years. This isn't a "pro-heartlands" point of view, they're well behind Toulouse for instance.

[DoubleD 5,923]

Does Big Nige know anyone well on the panel?.......................

[Oxford 5,023]

10 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

What kind of crowds would Bradford get in Super League in 2021?

Good ones, I suspect.

[Davo5 4,726]

12 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

What kind of crowds would Bradford get in Super League in 2021?

5100 the capacity at Dewsbury 

[Gerrumonside ref 2,392]

1 minute ago, Oxford said:

Good ones, I suspect.

Yes, I agree.

Just wondered whether they could deliver bums on seats a bit quicker than Toulouse or London or the others in a crisis year for income?

 

[Gerrumonside ref 2,392]

Just now, Davo5 said:

5100 the capacity at Dewsbury 

What about travelling support?  Is there any estimate where that would be at?

[M j M 5,702]

I think criticising the process or the subjective nature of this isn't warranted. By definition with the very tight timescales involved this will be an abbreviated version of what would otherwise be a lengthy and more considered approach, similar to the licensing one.

[Davo5 4,726]

1 minute ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

What about travelling support?  Is there any estimate where that would be at?

Not enough to warrant admitting such a basket case of a club into Superleague.

[Magic XIII 229]

36 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

The London team that finished bottom in 2019 is unrecognisable from the motley crew you have now. London were absolutely dominated in all departments by Fev at Ealing in March and have subsequently lost 5 or 6 players from that moderate team with no notable signings. As it stands, London are probably closer to a relegation battle in 2021 than to being a SL team. Virtually everything about them is trending in a negative direction, notably attendances. They're easy to rule out.

Don't cry when we get in ! Space on the cap, no idea who we have signed, you are jumping to conclusions. The dads armies assembled at Featherstone and York are something to behold.

[Davo5 4,726]

2 minutes ago, M j M said:

I think criticising the process or the subjective nature of this isn't warranted. By definition with the very tight timescales involved this will be an abbreviated version of what would otherwise be a lengthy and more considered approach, similar to the licensing one.

 

Licensing was considered,Really !!

I always had it down as a shambles