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gingerjon

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18 minutes ago, Leeds Wire said:

I've been to almost all of the grounds London have played at and Ealing is by far the best. It would be such a shame to move them on again.

The new Brentford stadium would not be a problem. It's the same Borough after all. Anywhere else would have issues.

(And Brentford has the obvious issue that London would be third tenant behind Brentford and London Irish RU)

 

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1 minute ago, ShropshireBull said:

Brentford stadium is too big.  They really only need a 5-6000 capacity stadium but bar Barnet I cant think of any.  Playing in large empty stadiums usually does more harm than good. 

That's why the other suggestion appears to be Plough Lane - 9,000 capacity.

But that is a proper move. And I'm not convinced it would be a good one - and not just because I despise everything about AFC Wimbledon with every fibre of my being.

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Man of Kent

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Ground Share Temperature Test  

 

 

 

Plough Lane sporting usage: have your say.

As Plough Lane nears completion, AFC Wimbledon CEO Joe Palmer sets out some opportunities and now the Dons Trust want your views.

“Through the build process, the club have been approached by several sporting teams about the potential to use Plough Lane as a stadium on a ground share arrangement. We have always kept an open dialogue with these clubs, while making it clear that we would require agreement from the Dons Trust membership to proceed with any proposal.

“We have now reached a point in discussions where we want to ask for your thoughts. 

“We have an offer on the table from the London Broncos Rugby League team which, from a purely financial point of view, would mean increased long-term financial security for us and the ability to service our debt whilst also supporting the playing squad budget. 

“I’m conscious we keep asking our fans to support the club financially – and am always immensely grateful for the support you offer – but our longer-term aim as a club has to be to become more self-sustaining. As such we are looking to maximise revenue in and around the stadium, and this will undoubtedly help significantly.

“I also realise however that for nearly 30 years our fans have been waiting for our own stadium in Merton that would be home to us, and us alone. Our stadium displaying our history and our branding is important to all of us.

“It is therefore important to us to gauge your views, and we are conducting a simple ‘temperature test’ to guide us before we proceed or reject the offer.”

Given the speed at which this potential deal is evolving, we cannot currently guarantee that it will be put to a formal vote, so The Dons Trust are conducting a temperature test survey. The club have prepared a short Q&A below. 

Q: How much is the potential deal worth to the club?

A: We cannot give exact figures but the increased profit to us would greatly strengthen the financial position of the club, enable us to meet bond repayments easier and put us in a better position when seeking to refinance the bridging loan.

Q: How long would the deal be for?

A: The current contract on the table would be for ten years with a break clause earlier on in the term for either party.

Q: I thought other sports were not allowed to be played at Plough Lane?

A: The club and Trust have always taken the view that we wanted the stadium to have the potential for multi-use and as a result the stadium has been future proofed for hosting additional sports like rugby. Some sports will require additional planning changes and regardless of whether this specific deal is agreed, we would be looking to undertake a planning permission change so at the very least we could host one-off events.

Q: When would the London Broncos look to start at Plough Lane?

A: They would look to start playing at Plough Lane in time for the 21/22 season. The rugby league season runs mainly throughout the summer and the 21/22 season is due to run from March until October.

Q: I’m worried about our beautiful pitch being destroyed and would hate to see rugby markings on it…

A: While there will undoubtedly be more demands on the pitch, we have spoken to our head groundsman who assures us that as a hybrid pitch, it will be more than capable of standing up to extra rugby league games. Rugby league pitches take a lot less damage than rugby union pitches. With regards to the visible line markings, there are modern solutions that now mean any rugby markings will be temporary and not visible during our home games.

Q: What impact would this have on other AFC Wimbledon teams such as the ladies or youth teams playing at Plough Lane?

A: Whilst we are still in discussion as how to best maximise usage of Plough Lane for all our teams, as rugby league is mainly a summer sport, we do not foresee any issues.

Q: Would we make any alterations at Plough Lane to support rugby league?

A: Not really, Plough Lane was designed to accommodate other sports. Our dressing rooms are larger than required for football and were built with future proofing for other sporting uses in mind. There may be a need to upgrade the floodlights to meet rugby league requirements.

Q: As a debenture holder, would my seat be guaranteed for London Broncos matches?

A: We are still only at a discussion stage with the London Broncos and if any kind of agreement were to be reached, debenture holders would get priority ahead of other club ticket holders for any potential opportunities (this would not guarantee your current debenture seat).

Q: I don’t want Plough Lane to be plastered in London Broncos advertising and branding... 

A: The joy of Plough Lane is that our advertising hoardings and scoreboard will be electronic and therefore can be altered on a match-by-match basis. When sharing with Chelsea Ladies at Kingsmeadow we used a series of displays where images could be swapped in and out depending on who played there. A similar system would be used at Plough Lane. There would however be some things on permanent display.

Q: Who would own Plough Lane?

A: Plough Lane would still be solely owned by AFC Wimbledon

 

 

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westlondonfan

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14 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

Brentford stadium is too big.  They really only need a 5-6000 capacity stadium but bar Barnet I cant think of any.  Playing in large empty stadiums usually does more harm than good. 

I agree but do we even need 6,000 capacity at the moment?  I remember when we were at The Stoop and how bad it got there. Since we’ve been  at Trailfinders things have improved dramatically both on and off the pitch in my opinion.  If we get a big game we could always make an arrangement with Brentford or whoever but in my opinion we  should instead be looking to establish ourselves at trailfinders for the next 15-20 years at least.

Anyway  who knows where we will be in three years yet alone 10 , as one minute its “jeopardy” and the next its “independent panels”?

 

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The Future is League

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Just now, doc said:

Have they realised that the only way to get back into Superleague is to move to West Yorkshire?😕

Probably not and not have enough money to pay their players and can't afford to pay the lease on the ground.

I seriously can't see why Bradford are even in the running.

If all Elstone can come up with is this he should be banished not only Rugby League but all sport for life. If Bradford are the 12th team in Super League how embarrassing is this going to look when they go cap in hand to the RFL and ask for money when they can't pay their players AGAIN

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Hela Wigmen

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It’s just Groundhog Day again, isn’t it? London go to a new ground, they proclaim how great it is going to be for them, how it’s going to help them achieve what they want and other stuff that’s now lost all meaning and then a few years later, they’re packing their bags for somewhere else, where they proclaim how great it is going to be for them, how it’s going to help them achieve what they want and other other stuff that’s further lost meaning. And then a few years later...

I look forward to their next move in a few years time and this vicious cycle continuing. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

I’m an AFC Wimbledon fan, by the way. This excites me very much indeed!

Do they realise that normally the RL season usually starts in February?

But otherwise it looks like it is clearly looking like Plough Lane.  Is the pitch long enough.

OK folks... the balance is being tipped to London!

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4 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said:

The article talks of a break clause for either side.     Make of that what you will.

London's planning their next move...

 

 

why don't the idiots at London just buy a small stadium and settle down.... they've had 40 years and about 20 stadiums to do so.

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Hela Wigmen

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1 minute ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

London's planning their next move...

 

 

why don't the idiots at London just buy a small stadium and settle down.... they've had 40 years and about 20 stadiums to do so.

Because land in London is at a premium and costs millions before you even think about laying a brick. Yes, they have spent millions over the years and could have possibly used some of the funds towards the building of a ground but they’d have been out of Super League long before they did. 

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40 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

That's why the other suggestion appears to be Plough Lane - 9,000 capacity.

But that is a proper move. And I'm not convinced it would be a good one - and not just because I despise everything about AFC Wimbledon with every fibre of my being.

Interesting. Why?

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Henson Park Old Firm

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2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

Because land in London is at a premium and costs millions before you even think about laying a brick. Yes, they have spent millions over the years and could have possibly used some of the funds towards the building of a ground but they’d have been out of Super League long before they did. 

yea you buy the club out right rename the football London Broncos FC after 5 years, and take over is complete with own ground.

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12 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

London's planning their next move...

 

 

why don't the idiots at London just buy a small stadium and settle down.... they've had 40 years and about 20 stadiums to do so.

How much do you reckon land costs in London plus stadium build ? If only we all had your hindsight. 

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