Eddie Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Well it’s been a while since we had this one. I was listening to the latest Out of Your League podcast earlier and Kyle Amor was the guest. He said that he thought (if the finances were in place) a West Cumbrian team alternating games between Whitehaven and Workington would work. What do you think, could it work? never having been there I imagine p155ing off the fans of the two rival clubs might be a big issue, but it’s been done and worked elsewhere before (in the NRL and Inverness). They certainly have the player pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: Well it’s been a while since we had this one. I was listening to the latest Out of Your League podcast earlier and Kyle Amor was the guest. He said that he thought (if the finances were in place) a West Cumbrian team alternating games between Whitehaven and Workington would work. What do you think, could it work? never having been there I imagine p155ing off the fans of the two rival clubs might be a big issue, but it’s been done and worked elsewhere before (in the NRL and Inverness). They certainly have the player pool. Wow a merged West Cumbria club thread part 103. The finances are not in place Both grounds are in decay despite the ongoing efforts of the clubs. The player pool is usually stripped of its best young talent by Superleague clubs and of the ones who aren’t a lot are usually in well paid employment in the nuclear industry and tend to stay in the amateur ranks. The remaining dwindling support base is largely made up of aging diehards who can’t see past the end of their nose and would rather see their clubs wither & die than merge with the “enemy” A sad state of affairs not helped by the RFL’s apathy towards what was once a great RL hotbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Do we include Barrow in this too...... 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chris Taylor said: Do we include Barrow in this too...... There in Lancashire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Davo5 said: There in Lancashire I know, I was taking the ....! 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chris Taylor said: Do we include Barrow in this too...... Bants aside, when people say they should be included they can’t have ever been to Cumbria, you might as well merge Widnes and Hunslet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: Bants aside, when people say they should be included they can’t have ever been to Cumbria, you might as well merge Widnes and Hunslet. Even if all the obstacles I listed could be overcome,it would only happen if a Superleague place could be secured and that won’t happen,not sure a competitive Championship club would be a big enough carrot for both parties to come together. The 90 minute drive up & down the goat track to/from Barrow will always rule them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumby Magic Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I know this isn't relevant to West Cumbria but would like Carlisle to restart. Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 The time to do this was twenty-five years ago and it wouldn't have worked then either Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Before all the other ( many ) obstacles the will just isn’t there to begin with , so we plough on ( or at least up n down on the same spot ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Slow news day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 47 minutes ago, Mumby Magic said: I know this isn't relevant to West Cumbria but would like Carlisle to restart. RL doesn’t exist in any form in Carlisle these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, gingerjon said: The time to do this was twenty-five years ago and it wouldn't have worked then either It really could have though with investment from BNFL (financial) and the RFL (resources) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Where are Koucash's Cumbrian Lakers? And his Liverpool RLFC for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Mackem Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, RigbyLuger said: Where are Koucash's Cumbrian Lakers? And his Liverpool RLFC for that matter? Same place as the NRL’s British bulldogs franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumby Magic Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, Davo5 said: RL doesn’t exist in any form in Carlisle these days. Yeah I get that and feel it's a loss. Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mumby Magic said: Yeah I get that and feel it's a loss. and for somewhere that used to have it's own league its very sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumby Magic Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wanderer said: and for somewhere that used to have it's own league its very sad Didn't know that tbh. Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 yes up to a 10 or 12 team league during the 80's, others on here will know more or can provide links, St Nicholas Arms were a team in it I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Wanderer said: and for somewhere that used to have it's own league its very sad Surely somewhere like Carlisle would be a good place to target as a place for new community clubs. I'm surprised Newcastle Thunder haven't tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Our friend Celtic Rooster had previously posted this: CARLISLE & DISTRICT LEAGUE FINAL TABLE. Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Difference Points 1 Wigton (Carlisle) 18 17 0 1 34 2 Crown Inn (Carlisle) 18 15 0 3 30 3 Horse & Farrier (Carlisle) 18 12 0 6 24 4 St. Nicholas Arms (Carlisle) 18 8 0 10 16 5 Carlisle Rugby League Supporters Club 18 7 0 11 14 6 Dalston ‘A’ (Carlisle) 18 4 0 14 8 7 Penrith (Cumbria) 18 0 0 18 0 A Carlisle amateur RL was formed after the new semi-pro Carlisle club created interest in the town and it lasted until the 1988-89 season. This is the 1986-87 season table. on this link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 20 hours ago, Wanderer said: Our friend Celtic Rooster had previously posted this: CARLISLE & DISTRICT LEAGUE FINAL TABLE. Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Difference Points 1 Wigton (Carlisle) 18 17 0 1 34 2 Crown Inn (Carlisle) 18 15 0 3 30 3 Horse & Farrier (Carlisle) 18 12 0 6 24 4 St. Nicholas Arms (Carlisle) 18 8 0 10 16 5 Carlisle Rugby League Supporters Club 18 7 0 11 14 6 Dalston ‘A’ (Carlisle) 18 4 0 14 8 7 Penrith (Cumbria) 18 0 0 18 0 A Carlisle amateur RL was formed after the new semi-pro Carlisle club created interest in the town and it lasted until the 1988-89 season. This is the 1986-87 season table. on this link Quite a few other Carlisle & District League clubs listed in the FIM Cumbria Rugby League annuals of 1982-86: They include Caledonian (Carlisle), Crown & Mitre (Carlisle), Friars Tavern (Carlisle), Morton Manor (Carlisle), Pheasant (Carlisle), Pioneers, Platform One (Carlisle), RAF Carlisle, Royal Scot. From the same period, a few 'lost' West Cumbria ARL clubs to reminisce over: Blue Bell (Workington), Frizington, Great Clifton, Mirehouse (Whitehaven), Moss Bay (Workington), St Bees, Shipwrights (Whitehaven), Twinames (Cockermouth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 23 hours ago, Davo5 said: There in Lancashire Ha, ha. As a Whitehaven RLFC director of the 1980s explained it to me, a Yorkshireman: "Barrovians will never be Cumbrians as long as they've got holes in their *****." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I always felt that Barrow could have been a big club. Workington Town and Whitehaven I think work well as a championship club (As long as they are in the top division) Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Hopping Mad said: Ha, ha. As a Whitehaven RLFC director of the 1980s explained it to me, a Yorkshireman: "Barrovians will never be Cumbrians as long as they've got holes in their *****." As long as Cumbria as existed, Barrow has been part of Cumbria. Now Cumberland is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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