Lowdesert Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 30 minutes ago, Scubby said: First 4 home games in SL - Huddersfield, Warrington, Wigan, St Helens is no picnic either. They've been dudded by the fixture planners for sure. Last 6 games - 1 at Toulouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Toulouse still have 22 games remaining, they are only 2 points behind Wakefield and Castleford, they can still avoid relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, Scubby said: First 4 home games in SL - Huddersfield, Warrington, Wigan, St Helens is no picnic either. They've been dudded by the fixture planners for sure. Having to play St Helens 3 times is a bit unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 18 minutes ago, kiggy said: Having to play St Helens 3 times is a bit unlucky London weren't complaining... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 On 12/03/2022 at 11:20, barnyia said: The need for vaccination to enter stadium finishes on Monday, Not saying you’re lying but where have you seen that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) I live here in France, from the 14th march you no longer need a pass sanitaire to enter public and private building, stadium etc, you only need a mask on public transport and in medical places, Edited March 13 by barnyia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimmestStar Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Toulouse have a great chance on Easter Monday when they are at home to Hull kR. The Good Friday derby game will take lots out of Rovers whatever the result so to have to immediately pack their bags and travel to France for a game on Easter Monday is a very tough proposition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segovia Carpet Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 09/03/2022 at 19:25, Agbrigg said: It's a conspiracy! Wakefield and Salford those teams that are a disgrace to SL have concocted this deal between themselves to make sure Tolouse are at a disadvantage. However there is a plus side to this. If Wakey win just get some satisfaction that a well known poster on these forums will be really miffed. Mr Brigg - Please explain why Salford `are a disgrace`? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: London weren't complaining... No one I know of in the club is complaining. In fact, happy to have a video ref for a game. Maybe London felt they were a bit unlucky too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 53 minutes ago, DimmestStar said: Toulouse have a great chance on Easter Monday when they are at home to Hull kR. The Good Friday derby game will take lots out of Rovers whatever the result so to have to immediately pack their bags and travel to France for a game on Easter Monday is a very tough proposition. I know, I feel the quick turnaround Easter weekend is tough for all the teams, especially those that have to travel to France. Luckily, or unluckily if you are a Hull fan, it's only one England team this Easter, as TO travel to Catalans on the Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Sylvain Houles remains upbeat, obviously he has to. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/sylvain-houles-toulouse-avoid-super-league-relegation/ My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, DimmestStar said: Toulouse have a great chance on Easter Monday when they are at home to Hull kR. The Good Friday derby game will take lots out of Rovers whatever the result so to have to immediately pack their bags and travel to France for a game on Easter Monday is a very tough proposition. Yup. I thought when that came out “why didn’t they send one of the teams from one of the pretend derbies over”, rather than us having played a real one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 hours ago, kiggy said: No one I know of in the club is complaining. In fact, happy to have a video ref for a game. Maybe London felt they were a bit unlucky too? I doubt it. They best Saints twice in the extra games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agbrigg Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 16 hours ago, Segovia Carpet said: Mr Brigg - Please explain why Salford `are a disgrace`? It appears my post went way over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimmestStar Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 13/03/2022 at 19:12, Hull Kingston Bronco said: Yup. I thought when that came out “why didn’t they send one of the teams from one of the pretend derbies over”, rather than us having played a real one Toulouse will also have the benefit of blank weekends in 2 of the previous 3 weeks due to them declining the invitation to participate in the Challenge Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonNgog Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Kheirallah’s departure confirmed with a very abrupt statement: Toulouse Olympique XIII formalises the early termination of Mark KHEIRALLAH's contract for serious misconduct, with immediate effect. This announcement closes communications on this subject and the Club will not make any further comments. https://bit.ly/3w7AgbB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Written in the local Perpignan paper today that the Catalan have to pay the travel costs etc for referees and visiting teams in the cup, just as toulouse have to for every home super League game, so it looks like the agreement has been carried over to super League for Toulouse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadera78 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, barnyia said: Written in the local Perpignan paper today that the Catalan have to pay the travel costs etc for referees and visiting teams in the cup, just as toulouse have to for every home super League game, so it looks like the agreement has been carried over to super League for Toulouse This sport's a joke. Let's just give up the pretence and only play games between teams who can get a public bus to one another. 8 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 21 minutes ago, nadera78 said: This sport's a joke. Let's just give up the pretence and only play games between teams who can get a public bus to one another. To embed French teams I to the UK league a decision needs to be made on costs. Admitting a French team may incur a cost of say £500k to the game - no TV income covers that, it is a pure cost. Who should fund that? Because let's be honest here, if the answer is the existing clubs will foot the bill then the answer is likely to be no. I really don't think we should be shy about getting other people to pay for things. I don't think it is unusual for things like this, whether it is paying costs (the NRL has done it in the past) or whether it is things like huge franchise fees to join leagues. It should also be remembered that these costs are in effect a reduction from their central funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theswanmcr Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, Dave T said: To embed French teams I to the UK league a decision needs to be made on costs. Admitting a French team may incur a cost of say £500k to the game - no TV income covers that, it is a pure cost. Who should fund that? Because let's be honest here, if the answer is the existing clubs will foot the bill then the answer is likely to be no. I really don't think we should be shy about getting other people to pay for things. I don't think it is unusual for things like this, whether it is paying costs (the NRL has done it in the past) or whether it is things like huge franchise fees to join leagues. It should also be remembered that these costs are in effect a reduction from their central funding. Yes but there has to be give and take and the benefits and costs shared. Loads of UK fans rightly asking why they can’t see their team’s games in Toulouse on TV anywhere. But if TO weren’t paying all travel costs then that money could be spent on providing this coverage - like Catalans do. So instead the UK clubs force the new foreign club to pay their travel, there’s no live coverage and many fans blame the new boys as they see no value in having another foreign team. Its a vicious circle driven by short term gain as ever by SL clubs. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 13/03/2022 at 15:51, kiggy said: Having to play St Helens 3 times is a bit unlucky Is it, I thought the loop fixtures were determined by how well you did the pervious season, so the newly promoted team were always going to have to play the best team in SL 3 times. Or put another way the top teams in SL have earned the right to have a slightly easier set of loop fixtures St.Helens - The Home of Rugby Champions Saints Men's team - Triple Champions & Double Winners ; Saints Women's team - Treble Winners ; Thatto Heath - National Conference Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, theswanmcr said: Yes but there has to be give and take and the benefits and costs shared. Loads of UK fans rightly asking why they can’t see their team’s games in Toulouse on TV anywhere. But if TO weren’t paying all travel costs then that money could be spent on providing this coverage - like Catalans do. So instead the UK clubs force the new foreign club to pay their travel, there’s no live coverage and many fans blame the new boys as they see no value in having another foreign team. Its a vicious circle driven by short term gain as ever by SL clubs. Firstly, I agree with the principle of sharing the risks and sharing the benefits, that would be my preference, but the problem with that is that the business case just doesn't stack up really, over 15 years in and Catalans can only get games on TV if they pay from their own pocket. Would any comp really choose to expand into a territory that delivers zero media income? It's too easy to make excuses for teams on stuff like this, Toulouse have been paying travel costs for ages, they now have access to increased funding (I'm assuming they have central funding here!), so they are far better off than last year. They will also get bigger crowds, and they will have bigger and better sponsors (again, assumptions, but the logic makes sense). So where have they spent the extra money? They have hardly improved their squad, and their operation doesn't appear to be much stronger. So they are probably a million or two stronger, but where are we seeing that? As I say, I agree with your principle overall, personally I'd charge an admission fee to the pyramid and then give equal rights, but the likes of Toulouse and Toronto made terrible decisions in their move from Championships to SL. Not everything links back to some modest costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Dave T said: To embed French teams I to the UK league a decision needs to be made on costs. Admitting a French team may incur a cost of say £500k to the game - no TV income covers that, it is a pure cost. Who should fund that? Because let's be honest here, if the answer is the existing clubs will foot the bill then the answer is likely to be no. I really don't think we should be shy about getting other people to pay for things. I don't think it is unusual for things like this, whether it is paying costs (the NRL has done it in the past) or whether it is things like huge franchise fees to join leagues. It should also be remembered that these costs are in effect a reduction from their central funding. Dave, Super League clubs should be paying for their own travel. There should be a central pot - from sponsorship, final revenue etc - to support semi-pro and amateur clubs with excessive costs (which could just be a trip from Kells to Aldershot). If Warrington drew Catalan away, Warrington should be paying their own travel costs, not Catalans. I don't mind clubs being admitted to SL (e.g. like a a Toronto) with conditions they need to meet to attain 'full entry/membership' over a few years, but I'm very uncomfortable with French clubs (or any other teams who come in and add value to our competition) being constant gastarbeiter - liable to be chucked out on a whim. Edited March 16 by Just Browny 7 I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 24 minutes ago, Dave T said: To embed French teams I to the UK league a decision needs to be made on costs. That is the critical point here. What are we? De facto were an English League with guest clubs. De Jure we are a European League that primarily relies on the RFL for infrastructure (refs etc). Grey areas come about any time clubs from outside the traditional northern heartlands are proposed, even if within the UK. See comments on travel to Glasgow from 70 years ago and Cornwall more recently. The fact the above is so ad hoc and not solid isn't a good point of strength for the game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dealwithit Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Travel costs should be paid for centrally. If the RFL permits foreign teams entering, it doesn’t matter what league they play in — the travel costs are covered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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