Attendances (Multiple Merged Threads)

[fevtom]

This rounds attendances:

St Helens v Wigan - 17,980

Leeds v Huddersfield - 11,286

Hull KR v Hull FC - 10,300

Catalans v Toulouse - 8,922

Warrington v Salford - 8,486

Wakefield v Castleford - 5,557

Updated Season Averages

St Helens	14392
Leeds Rhinos	12342
Hull FC	11145
Wigan Warriors	10622
Castleford Tigers	9213
Hull Kingston Rovers	8758
Warrington Wolves	8603
Catalans Dragons	7702
Toulouse Olympique	5290
Huddersfield Giants	5247
Wakefield Trinity	5093
Salford Red Devils	4570

[Josef K]

As i left the ground yesterday someone said that “the stewards dealt with a fan in the Saints end for throwing ale after we had scored”. I hope this is true because that really does pee me off, if the ale is so bad save your £4.70p (or whatever price it is) instead of launching it over people. 
Perhaps RL clubs really are starting to clampdown on unruly supporters, instead of turning a blind eye and telling everyone that it’s a family game and very rarely do we have any problems in stadiums. 

[Eddie]

13 minutes ago, fevtom said:

This rounds attendances:

St Helens v Wigan - 17,980

Leeds v Huddersfield - 11,286

Hull KR v Hull FC - 10,300

Catalans v Toulouse - 8,922

Warrington v Salford - 8,486

Wakefield v Castleford - 5,557

Updated Season Averages

St Helens	14392
Leeds Rhinos	12342
Hull FC	11145
Wigan Warriors	10622
Castleford Tigers	9213
Hull Kingston Rovers	8758
Warrington Wolves	8603
Catalans Dragons	7702
Toulouse Olympique	5290
Huddersfield Giants	5247
Wakefield Trinity	5093
Salford Red Devils	4570

Another low attendance at Warrington, worrying stuff. 

[Scubby]

6 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Another low attendance at Warrington, worrying stuff. 

29 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Away fans are NOT important 

The most alarming gate is Wakefield 5.5k FFS! They are becoming the laziest club in SL in terms of promoting themselves.

Just sit back and hope 3-4k Cas fans will rock up and help sell the place out. Well they didn't - or they did and it was at the expense of latent home fans.

That is why away fans are not a fundamental factor in a club's model. It creates a crutch and complacency. Hull KR is a really good example atm of sell home tickets first through galvanising the community.

[Mr Frisky]

2 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Leeds no longer do these, it’s single pints only now 

They do - they are just far away from you...

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

1 hour ago, fevtom said:

This rounds attendances:

St Helens v Wigan - 17,980

Leeds v Huddersfield - 11,286

Hull KR v Hull FC - 10,300

Catalans v Toulouse - 8,922

Warrington v Salford - 8,486

Wakefield v Castleford - 5,557

Updated Season Averages

St Helens	14392
Leeds Rhinos	12342
Hull FC	11145
Wigan Warriors	10622
Castleford Tigers	9213
Hull Kingston Rovers	8758
Warrington Wolves	8603
Catalans Dragons	7702
Toulouse Olympique	5290
Huddersfield Giants	5247
Wakefield Trinity	5093
Salford Red Devils	4570

Leeds v Huddersfield is bigger than the Hull derby 

[Scubby]

4 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Leeds v Huddersfield is bigger than the Hull derby 

It would have been half as big as the Hull derby had the fixture been at the MKM stadium. What a strange thing to say.

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

1 hour ago, fevtom said:

This rounds attendances:

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Updated Season Averages

St Helens	14392
Leeds Rhinos	12342
Hull FC	11145
Wigan Warriors	10622
Castleford Tigers	9213
Hull Kingston Rovers	8758
Warrington Wolves	8603
Catalans Dragons	7702
Toulouse Olympique	5290
Huddersfield Giants	5247
Wakefield Trinity	5093
Salford Red Devils	4570

50% of Leeds home games so far have been Thursday night games. Our next 3 home games are all on our preferred Friday night, our average will start to improve with this.

Saints have only had a single Thursday home game and had local derby’s at home against Wigan and Warrington already. Saints average will start to fall as the season goes on.. Leeds are still the best supported club in Super League and will end the season with the best average across Super League.

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

1 minute ago, Scubby said:

It would have been half as big as the Hull derby had the fixture been at the MKM stadium. What a strange thing to say.

It was tongue in cheek 

[Scubby]

Just now, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

It was tongue in cheek 

It's getting more difficult to decipher these days mate. Let's hope Leeds get their mojo back and order will be restored!

[Damien]

5 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

50% of Leeds home games so far have been Thursday night games. Our next 3 home games are all on our preferred Friday night, our average will start to improve with this.

Saints have only had a single Thursday home game and had local derby’s at home against Wigan and Warrington already. Saints average will start to fall as the season goes on.. Leeds are still the best supported club in Super League and will end the season with the best average across Super League.

Isn't this the same or worse for most teams though?

As an example 60% of Wigan home games have been on a Thursday night and the Good Friday derby was at Saints this year, meaning no 20k+ crowd to boost averages.

Leeds are hardly in a unique position.

[GUBRATS]

1 hour ago, Scubby said:

The most alarming gate is Wakefield 5.5k FFS! They are becoming the laziest club in SL in terms of promoting themselves.

Just sit back and hope 3-4k Cas fans will rock up and help sell the place out. Well they didn't - or they did and it was at the expense of latent home fans.

That is why away fans are not a fundamental factor in a club's model. It creates a crutch and complacency. Hull KR is a really good example atm of sell home tickets first through galvanising the community.

Indeed , which is why I questioned the proposed new stand at Belle Vue being all seater , the view from behind the sticks ( majority of home fans ) is poor , make the stand a 4K standing area and you'll fill it every game , create a better atmosphere and make it easier to bring in you're home fans 

[Dave T]

2 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

 

2) they're often watered down to prevent fans getting too drunk

 

4 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Practically, it's because a fair number of stadiums are selling a weaker version because they don't want too many people getting too drunk too quickly.

Is this really true? Because that just sounds completely illegal. 

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

 

Is this really true? Because that just sounds completely illegal. 

More likely is the beer they serve is just rubbish in the first place , basically pump it straight back out of the urinals into the pumps

[Scubby]

4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Indeed , which is why I questioned the proposed new stand at Belle Vue being all seater , the view from behind the sticks ( majority of home fans ) is poor , make the stand a 4K standing area and you'll fill it every game , create a better atmosphere and make it easier to bring in you're home fans 

Agree. A Leeds South Stand style would be a better design

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Scubby said:

Agree. A Leeds South Stand style would be a better design

If it's all seater it'll be a quarter full , and a huge white elephant 

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

12 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

If it's all seater it'll be a quarter full , and a huge white elephant 

A Super League club should be able to fill 1 seated stand, the rest of the ground is standing 

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

A Super League club should be able to fill 1 seated stand, the rest of the ground is standing 

Leeds don't 

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

1 minute ago, GUBRATS said:

Leeds don't 

Leeds have 3 seated stands

[The storm]

53 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Leeds v Huddersfield is bigger than the Hull derby 

I do often wonder how sky mucking about with fixtures impacts on attendances

 

I would say it costs some clubs a million a year in lost income

[gingerjon]

1 hour ago, Dave T said:

 

Is this really true? Because that just sounds completely illegal. 

As long as the ABV is listed then it's not.

[GUBRATS]

53 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Leeds have 3 seated stands

How often do they fill any of them ?

[Sir Kevin Sinfield]

3 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

How often do they fill any of them ?

 

2 hours ago, fevtom said:

Updated Season Averages

St Helens	14392
Leeds Rhinos	12342
Hull FC	11145
Wigan Warriors	10622
Castleford Tigers	9213
Hull Kingston Rovers	8758
Warrington Wolves	8603
Catalans Dragons	7702
Toulouse Olympique	5290
Huddersfield Giants	5247
Wakefield Trinity	5093
Salford Red Devils	4570

You can see the Leeds average for the year so far here, as I already stated with 50% of our home games so far on a Thursday, this will increase as the season goes on. Leeds have just short of 8000 seats and just over 10,000 standing capacity, neither our seating or standing normally sells out, as is the case with every other Rugby League club.

[GUBRATS]

17 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

 

You can see the Leeds average for the year so far here, as I already stated with 50% of our home games so far on a Thursday, this will increase as the season goes on. Leeds have just short of 8000 seats and just over 10,000 standing capacity, neither our seating or standing normally sells out, as is the case with every other Rugby League club.

So the answer you are looking for is , never

[Dave T]

57 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

As long as the ABV is listed then it's not.

I'm not sure I follow? 

Surely if I'm buying a draught beer the landlord can't just water it down like Cordial however they want? 

Carlsberg is often sold, and that is 3.8% in this country, so weak as owt anyway.