Beaumont's Thoughts on Toronto and France

[Robin Evans]

5 minutes ago, Scubby said:

 

Catalans have provided hundreds of thousands of visiting fans the opportunity to travel and watch their team in the South of France.

 

 

It may not be for everyone,  but for me at least, this is a major draw for me should fev get promoted.

The Toulouse trips were superb. Absolutely heaven for me.

[Scubby]

12 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

It may not be for everyone,  but for me at least, this is a major draw for me should fev get promoted.

The Toulouse trips were superb. Absolutely heaven for me.

Yes Robin. Such an insular view and very sad. I'm sure the same thing was probably said about Cumbrian teams decades ago.

In fact just checked, a large number of clubs opposed Whitehaven's admission into the RFL in 1948. They squeaked in by 3 votes.

Will Catalans always be "them" in some eyes??

[dkw]

12 minutes ago, Scubby said:

Catalans hold the SL attendance record of 32k+

Catalans currently hold the SL league leaders shield

Catalans have the highest turnover of any SL club

Catalans have provided hundreds of thousands of visiting fans the opportunity to travel and watch their team in the South of France.

That is all

 

Yeah but apart from that, what did the Romans Catalans do for us.....

[Robin Evans]

29 minutes ago, Scubby said:

Yes Robin. Such an insular view and very sad. I'm sure the same thing was probably said about Cumbrian teams decades ago.

In fact just checked, a large number of clubs opposed Whitehaven's admission into the RFL in 1948. They squeaked in by 3 votes.

Will Catalans always be "them" in some eyes??

And whilst I'm at it....we had 400+ pages on Toronto, which was a proper basket case.....

BUT, what a fabulous experience that was. I still bang on about how good that weekend was. Took me a fortnight to recover!

[Wiltshire Warrior Dragon]

44 minutes ago, dkw said:

Yeah but apart from that, what did the Romans Catalans do for us.....

Great minds think alike, dkw!  You beat me to it!

[Harry Stottle]

1 hour ago, Cw25 said:

Some people seem to think he is loyal to Leigh. He has walked out on them in the past. And half did the same on another occasion. He is such a attention seeker. Wish he would get out of the sport.

I don't know who you support, but I would hazard a guess at Owdam Roughyeds, if so I would say you would swap him and his money in an instant for Chris Hamilton.

Both have a long history of support for their clubs, I have a lot of time for Mr Hamilton but he can't offer the same financially as Mr Beaumont can for his club, and if truth be known the Hero from Workington who goes by the name @dkw who uses phrases like "imbecile" but only when hiding behind his keyboard would accept a D.J. Beaumont and his cash to bolster his club, I know Mr Pleasants has just accepted the roll of Workington Chairman fulltime from being the standin but apart from being a lifelong fan as the kid who stood on the terraces at Craven Park can he offer the finances that Workington so desperately need to save them from relegation into L1 and possible oblivion if funding is no more?

[Davo5]

8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I don't know who you support, but I would hazard a guess at Owdam Roughyeds, if so I would say you would swap him and his money in an instant for Chris Hamilton.

Both have a long history of support for their clubs, I have a lot of time for Mr Hamilton but he can't offer the same financially as Mr Beaumont can for his club, and if truth be known the Hero from Workington who goes by the name @dkw who uses phrases like "imbecile" but only when hiding behind his keyboard would accept a D.J. Beaumont and his cash to bolster his club, I know Mr Pleasants has just accepted the roll of Workington Chairman fulltime from being the standin but apart from being a lifelong fan as the kid who stood on the terraces at Craven Park can he offer the finances that Workington so desperately need to save them from relegation into L1 and possible oblivion if funding is no more?

So does splashing his cash on his own club give Beaumont a free pass on being a prat and to have a go at 2 current Superleague clubs,one of which is way more successful than his own.

[Robin Evans]

10 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

So does splashing his cash on his own club give Beaumont a free pass on being a prat and to have a go at 2 current Superleague clubs,one of which is way more successful than his own.

Anyone incl club chairs have the freedom of expression subject to law and rugby governance, so yes, he has a free pass. As we all do. 

We all then have the freedom of expression to comment on his outpourings. That's how it works.

[JohnM]

9 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

So does splashing his cash on his own club give Beaumont a free pass on being a prat and to have a go at 2 current Superleague clubs,one of which is way more successful than his own.

Yes it does. If he didn't exist, we'd have to invent him.  He's as much right to be in there as anyone else.  He may be an old fashioned schoolyard scrapper but underneath all that aggressive posturing and dummy-spitting lies someone who believes in his club, even though he might express it "era of the biff" style.

[Harry Stottle]

2 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

So does splashing his cash on his own club give Beaumont a free pass on being a prat and to have a go at 2 current Superleague clubs,one of which is way more successful than his own.

I accept what you say Dav, but there is a time when even when you know one of your own is wrong you still stand in their corner. It comes with the game we are in (or was) even when you know a teammate has done something wrong and it "kicked off" you all went in together.

I make no apologies for standing up for one of our own

The man has is own opinions, just as all who criticise him have theirs, and for what it's worth I believe what @Jughead said when he stated if truth be known he is probably stating what a lot of those other Chairmen who actually put their hands in their pockets when it comes to financing the sport, which is far more appropriate to the discussion than a load of 10 Bob Millionaires saying what should be done.

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[M j M]

If we look at it the other way round how much does Beaumont think the presence of Leigh over Catalan would add to the Sky deal? Millions surely?

[Davo5]

9 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I accept what you say Dav, but there is a time when even when you know one of your own is wrong you still stand in their corner. It comes with the game we are in (or was) even when you know a teammate has done something wrong and it "kicked off" you all went in together.

I make no apologies for standing up for one of our own

The man has is own opinions, just as all who criticise him have theirs, and for what it's worth I believe what @Jughead said when he stated if truth be known he is probably stating what a lot of those other Chairmen who actually put their hands in their pockets when it comes to financing the sport, which is far more appropriate to the discussion than a load of 10 Bob Millionaires saying what should be done.

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I have no idea what your opening paragraph has to do with your clubs owner acting like a muppet.

No he is merely exercising his massive ego in an attempt to keep himself relevant.

[Scubby]

1 minute ago, Davo5 said:

I have no idea what your opening paragraph has to do with your clubs owner acting like a muppet.

No he is merely exercising his massive ego in an attempt to keep himself relevant.

Us and them but constantly redrawing where the "us" boundary is. If London weren't #### they'd be getting it too in all likelihood. 

[Robin Evans]

1 minute ago, Davo5 said:

 

No he is merely exercising his massive ego in an attempt to keep himself relevant.

Does it really matter? The bloke has an opinion. My opinion is polarised to his. He's a gobsheeite.

But I'm OK with him chelpin on.... no problems at all. That is his right

 

[Robin Evans]

1 minute ago, Scubby said:

Us and them but constantly redrawing where the "us" boundary is. If London weren't #### they'd be getting it too in all likelihood. 

We should just stick to the Yorkshire cup.... but not invite those from South Yorks....

[Dunbar]

38 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I accept what you say Dav, but there is a time when even when you know one of your own is wrong you still stand in their corner. It comes with the game we are in (or was) even when you know a teammate has done something wrong and it "kicked off" you all went in together.

I make no apologies for standing up for one of our own

The man has is own opinions, just as all who criticise him have theirs, and for what it's worth I believe what @Jughead said when he stated if truth be known he is probably stating what a lot of those other Chairmen who actually put their hands in their pockets when it comes to financing the sport, which is far more appropriate to the discussion than a load of 10 Bob Millionaires saying what should be done.

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I know we have had this conversation before but 'has money' is not the panacea for all of his many shortcomings.

Just imagine how your club would benefit if he had money and he was a visionary and inspirational leader.

[dkw]

1 hour ago, Davo5 said:

So does splashing his cash on his own club give Beaumont a free pass on being a prat and to have a go at 2 current Superleague clubs,one of which is way more successful than his own.

I wouldn't want that cretin anywhere near my club, no matter how much cash he throws in. He's an embarrassing muppet and when he leaves in a massive huff he will leave a broken club behind.

[Dave T]

For me this is why it is crucially important to have the right people leading the game. 

Everyone can have their opinion, and having extreme or polarised opinions is all good, it causes good debate and there will often be some validity to even controversial views. 

But, like a debate I had last week about the validity of players' opinions, they are only worth so much. 

I fear if it was just left to existing players and owners we would be in a far worse position than now. And I don't think we have the best leaders. 

[DEANO]

4 hours ago, JohnM said:

He's free to say what he wants, how he wants etc and we are free to come to our own conclusions. I don't suppose he cares what any of us think. There is no doubt of his passion for Leigh, the time, energy, effort and money he has put into the club. It would be good to see Leigh in SuperLeague as long as they are there on merit and in a sustainable fashion.

I'm not sure, though, that belittling the efforts of the two French clubs, both of whom have fought much harder battles than Leigh have ever done, to get to where they are now, is the right way to go about things.

Still, if you put your head above the parapet, you should know what to expect.

Err. Catalan never got there on merit

[The Future is League]

A club which is a suburb of Wigan doesn't offer a single penny to a tv contract.

[theswanmcr]

16 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Err. Catalan never got there on merit

No they didn’t actually exist and formed from two other existing clubs who swallowed their pride and realised that the only way for to be competitive in a big league was to merge and form a new entity…

Lancashire CenturiWarriors anyone.

[GUBRATS]

In monetary terms he's correct , people are free to travel anywhere they want including France , it doesn't have to involve watching your team play RL there , ask Robin , ditto Canada 

However with regards development of the game in France there isn't really anywhere else Catalans or Toulouse can go , to that end they are in SL and we ( SL and the RFL ) and they need to do more to monetize their inclusion , how that is done I haven't the foggiest 

[Dave T]

48 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Err. Catalan never got there on merit

I'm not sure I'd say that, they didn't get there via the lower levels, but their inclusion was based on their bid, and they have backed it up with actions. 

But I also wouldn't use John's description either. 

[Robin Evans]

I'd hate to lose the french influence on superleague or the championship. It works., It's doable and it's sustainable..... in ways Toronto wasn't.

[Scubby]

53 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

In monetary terms he's correct , people are free to travel anywhere they want including France , it doesn't have to involve watching your team play RL there , ask Robin , ditto Canada 

However with regards development of the game in France there isn't really anywhere else Catalans or Toulouse can go , to that end they are in SL and we ( SL and the RFL ) and they need to do more to monetize their inclusion , how that is done I haven't the foggiest 

Are they not justifying their inclusion by providing one of the best teams in the competition?

Have people on Sky/BBC and at various stadiums not enjoyed watching Stacey Jones, James Maloney, Thomas Bosc, Sam Tomkins etc. How #### would Super League 2022 be this year if you took Catalans out of that top 4?

Are Catalans an important part of overseas rights sales? Because of their success and NRL recruitment they are now one of the most recognised SL teams in Australia.

It is SL's job to commercialise their product not Catalans or Toulouse.