Sun 16 Oct: RLWC: Jamaica v Ireland KO 17:00

[Irish Saint]

Chamberlain in at the corner  after more Keary one handed play.

Chamberlain kick strikes the post again 18-0

Edited October 16, 2022 by Irish Saint

[Dave T]

22 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

Yes it is scary, and it could create a very bad look over the next couple of weeks.  One wonders why they stuck with the same ticket prices.

@Dave T and others can ridicule my suggestion of that being because of the pressure from the government "to do all the right things" which Jon Dutton mentioned, but I note that none of my detractors have been able to suggest another reason why someone familiar with the "RL family" and its ways would have done as he's done.

The obvious answer is Dutton ain't very good. He's displayed this before. 

[Damien]

1 minute ago, Hughsehhh said:

The pricing strategy was probably agreed way ahead of the cost of living crisis and war in Ukraine tbf

It would have been ambitious anyway for these kind of games.

[Irish Saint]

Ireland squandered a 4 on 1 there

[faithfulbyname]

Jamaica to get on the scoreboard?

[londonrlfan]

21 minutes ago, MZH said:

Jamaica look out of their depth tbh. 50+ on the cards here.

Imagine the score against NZ!

[Irish Saint]

Jamaica with a penalty as the hooter sounds.

Rush kicks the goal from close to 40 out 18-2

[Ullman]

11 minutes ago, Irish Saint said:

Great defensive effort from Jamaica there.

They're outgunned but you can't fault their effort and commitment.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

On 14/10/2022 at 09:13, Yakstorm said:

Definitely a history making match. Who would have thought Jamaica would qualify for a Rugby League World Cup 18 years after the sport was first introduced?

You kidding? I'm surprised they're not in SL yet...

[MatthewWoody]

Just now, ShropshireBull said:

Ok Jam arent going to win but they are definitely a market and brand we can build with lots of goodwill for them outside the sport.

mid season knights game and one of the other tier 2 home nations to keep them ticking over.

Yes, Jamaica need to play more tests.

[Damien]

20 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

We may not see a close game until TON-PNG. It's a bit disappointing. 

That should have been today in my opinion. It was always one of the standouts from the group stages and that would have ensured strong games on both the Saturday and Sunday on national TV. As is it'll be on BBC3 on Tuesday and won't get the audience it deserves.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

Just now, Hughsehhh said:

The pricing strategy was probably agreed way ahead of the cost of living crisis and war in Ukraine tbf

I'm sure. But you can't tell me this match is a £35/seat event, in a sport where people get nosebleeds when prices crack the £25 mark for a club they actually support. World Cups are about creating a festival of the sport, celebrating the talent, stories and most importantly engaging new audiences. The comp has two products to do that with:

1) True major event games, with either the home nation or at least an elite nation in a competitive game. Sell these as the premium events they are. Even Aus vs. Fiji where the result is pre-known fits this category. 

2) Low cost "give it a go" product sampling exercises, to build profile. Everything that doesn't involve one of England, Australia or New Zealand (and even their games where obvious mismatches) is in this second category.  That's 80% of group games. 

You can tell the organisers know this because some games are cheaper. But not cheap enough to pass the "why not?" test you need in order to get samplers. 

That said, as ever the product on show today is great and I'm enjoying the match. But then I already knew it would be, and I'm not its target. 

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Is there a reason why we've gone for back to back games in Leeds and Newcastle this weekend? 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

Enjoyable stuff. We are going to get a few blowouts but definitely think the secondary teams will get stronger provided they are given regular games.

The problem is giving them regular games. Would USA and Canada be competitive if Jamaica have their full squad? Ideally you'd like to see them play some good matches in Jamaica to promote the sport more.

[Damien]

Considering the pace and intensity Ireland have played at, and the obvious size advantage they have, Jamaica have done extremely well to go in at half time only 18-2 down.

[MatthewWoody]

2 minutes ago, NW10LDN said:

The problem is giving them regular games. Would USA and Canada be competitive if Jamaica have their full squad? Ideally you'd like to see them play some good matches in Jamaica to promote the sport more.

The only pathway (considering traveling costs, etc.) would be test matches with domestic players in Jam and with England based players in Europe. 

[DavidM]

6 minutes ago, Damien said:

That should have been today in my opinion. It was always one of the standouts from the group stages and that would have ensured strong games on both the Saturday and Sunday on national TV. As is it'll be on BBC3 on Tuesday and won't get the audience it deserves.

Good point , I agree that looks a standout fixture ideal for this slot

[Just Browny]

6 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

Is there a reason why we've gone for back to back games in Leeds and Newcastle this weekend? 

I think both came about from other venues becoming available but agree that this has been a poor quirk of the scheduling.

The atmosphere in the ground is not bad at all but most neutrals in and around Leeds will have preferred last night's game.

As mentioned Jamaica have given it their all and Golding has been all over the place. The winger Agoro, who I think is at Keighley, has had a very good game too. His centre, Johnson, looks like he has been at the pies leaving Ireland with an overlap every time they go down that side.

Ireland have a very credible spine and I would have thought were in with a chance v Lebanon.

Edited October 16, 2022 by Just Browny

[Archie Gordon]

6 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

... World Cups are about creating a festival of the sport, ...

And this is exactly how yesterday looked but today has been the opposite. It needn't have been. 

[Pie tries]

Don’t like this J kit - they have one of the best national flags in the world, why they playing in virtually all back?

[Futtocks]

I though this match had £20 and up tickets, not starting at £35.

[St Reatham]

I’m trying to be upbeat about the attendance and to remain positive, but I got so much stick in 2000 for trying to defend awful attendances. It feels like those ghosts are starting to haunt me again.

[MatthewWoody]

4 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

I think both came about from other venues becoming available but agree that this has been a poor quirk of the scheduling.

The atmosphere in the ground is not bad at all but most neutrals in and around Leeds will have preferred last night's game.

As mentioned Jamaica have given it their all and Golding has been all over the place. The winger Agoro, who I think is at Keighley, has had a very good game too. His centre, Johnson, looks like he has been at the pies leaving Ireland with an overlap every time they go down that side.

Ireland have a very credible spine and I would have thought were in with a chance v Lebanon.

Ireland vs Lebanon is gonna be the most important game in this group. Especially if the Lebanese are in form as they were in 2017 

[EssexRL]

3 minutes ago, St Reatham said:

I’m trying to be upbeat about the attendance and to remain positive, but I got so much stick in 2000 for trying to defend awful attendances. It feels like those ghosts are starting to haunt me again.

The crowd isn’t bad, they’re just rattling around in the wrong stadium the day after another match there. This would look a lot better at say York’s ground or dare I say in London or even (left field) Reading which has a large Irish and West Indian community. 

Edited October 16, 2022 by EssexRL

[londonrlfan]

1 minute ago, EssexRL said:

The crowd isn’t bad, they’re just rattling around in the wrong stadium the day after another match there. This would look a lot better at say York’s ground or dare I say in London or even (left field) Reading which has a large Irish and West Indian community. 

Reading is too big. QPR on a Saturday afternoon would've been perfect for Jamaica v NZ.