Sat 8th Jun: Betfred Challenge Cup Final: Warrington Wolves v Wigan Warriors KO 15:00 (BBC)

[sam4731]

6 minutes ago, DavidM said:

French fancies this 

Is that you Mr Kipling?

[Harry Stottle]

3 minutes ago, DavidM said:

I’ve heard people say you should  be able to reach out an arms length but as of the rules now that rulings fair 

That only comes into play if the ball carrying arm dies not touch the floor.

[Gomersall]

Just now, JonM said:

The one where he penalised Wigan looked like they continued after the tackled player had hit the ground?

It’s a bit hectic here John. Bleedin’ grandkids.

[Futtocks]

6 minutes ago, DavidM said:

French fancies this 

[Industria ditat]

Summing up that first half :

Wigan much the better side.

Warrington only 10 pts behind and could still turn this around if they start to play as a team.

Officials have been poor. 

[DavidM]

Just now, Futtocks said:

Oooh yes please 

[Gomersall]

Just now, Futtocks said:

Touché 

[JohnM]

6 minutes ago, JDR said:

Isn’t there provision for placing the ball if the tackled player is sliding along - or does that not apply as soon as the ball carrying arm touches the ground?

You beat me to it. I'm a slow typer.

[Gomersall]

Just now, JohnM said:

You beat me to it. I'm a slow typer.

That’s OK, I’m a slow reader.

[Dave T]

3 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Double movement or not, the decision was no try, so decision made and argument over.

The broader question for the future: if the attackers elbow touches the ground, does that signify the tackle is complete? I thought that the players progress had to be effectively stopped, so a double movement is counted if the player is stopped and then moves again.

Not 100%. Had he slid, the try would have been fine. Once your ball carrying arm hits the ground though, you can't then make a 2nd movement with it. Although they have muddied that in recent years by allowing it if momentum takes you over the line. 

[Harry Stottle]

4 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Double movement or not, the decision was no try, so decision made and argument over.

The broader question for the future: if the attackers elbow touches the ground, does that signify the tackle is complete? I thought that the players progress had to be effectively stopped, so a double movement is counted if the player is stopped and then moves again.

If a tackler has his hands on an attacker and his elbow is grounded the tackle is deemed complete.

[SUPERSTUD]

8 minutes ago, JonM said:

Great atmosphere in the ground, both sets of fans doing their bit. Thousands of Wakefield fans outside before the game too.

Not long to go before the main game now.

[moorside roughyed]

Big team talk from Burgess me thinks.

[Suffolk Punch]

6 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Double movement or not, the decision was no try, so decision made and argument over.

The broader question for the future: if the attackers elbow touches the ground, does that signify the tackle is complete? I thought that the players progress had to be effectively stopped, so a double movement is counted if the player is stopped and then moves again.

From the Laws of the Game

Grounded (a) when they are held by one or more opposing players and the ball or the hand or arm holding the ball comes into contact with the ground.

[bobbruce]

9 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

What’s the law for a gang tackle with momentum pushing a player into touch? Kendall penalised both teams for it in the 1st half.

I can only remember the one where Smith was penalised for stripping the ball. 

[Harry Stottle]

12 minutes ago, JDR said:

Isn’t there provision for placing the ball if the tackled player is sliding along - or does that not apply as soon as the ball carrying arm touches the ground?

If attacking player slides over without promoting his arm, that's fine.

[Lowdesert]

Warrington too impatient and haphazard.  

Wigan very confident and organised.

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

8 minutes ago, JonM said:

Great atmosphere in the ground, both sets of fans doing their bit. Thousands of Wakefield fans outside before the game too.

I think a lot still are.  I prefer to watch this warm up game rather than ale it up till 5 minutes before our kick off. 

[EagleEyePie]

Big opportunity for Wire. Here comes their first try I think

[EagleEyePie]

Or maybe not.

[DavidM]

Jiffy totally right , low percentage 

[corvusxiii]

Another nothing penalty. Sucking the life out of a game. 

[AJK66]

Ashton having a bit of a nightmare so far sadly. 

[fieldofclothofgold]

I get the feeling a burst of scoring is coming 

[EagleEyePie]

Okay some good news for Wire, Liam Byrne is on the field. Their chances of having a man advantage have greatly increased.