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  1. 18 points
    ....then they could be no better than tonight's game in Coventry against Leeds Rhinos. Over150 people enjoying pre match hospitality, great atmosphere, a crowd of 1294 on a freezing cold night. Bar heaving afterwards. This was a game to celebrate the Bears 20 years of existence while also commemorating Leeds record 102-0 victory over the erstwhile Coventry northern union team in 1913. But this was a glimpse into the future, and how Coventry can take it's place in this game. And the score: 14-70, but who's counting?
  2. 14 points
    Its honestly people like this that need to close their eyes and walk across the M1 or at least leave the sport. The clue really is in the title of “pre season friendly” and the focus should be on; - 1200+ people watching RL on a freezing Friday night in Coventry - Sold out hospitality - Coventry being able to offer the chance of playing semi pro RL to people outside the heartlards All of the above is progression not the score. Coventry Bears is some people’s life’s work, as a club they run on a budget that compares to Sam Burgess’s jock strap, they have never gone bust (see nearly every club anyone’s ever supported) don’t go cap in hand to the RFL and are hugely proactive in the community. This isn’t to also mention their relationships with local business’s and the university. If more clubs acted in such a way (my own included) then the game wouldn’t be in such a state. Quotes of the above imo are in the same narrow minded class as the bigots that kick and clap. RL does not belong to the North, it’s anyones game that wants it.
  3. 12 points
    There are 3.7 billion other threads on TRL looking at the downsides. Let's keep this one a happy place, eh? At least until the season actually kicks off anyway.
  4. 11 points
    I just want to share my excitement regarding the North American expansion news. I’m a Seppo who’s totally addicted to League I’m constantly on this site and watching everything from the Footy Show (Love Beau Ryan) to Rugby AM those lads are spectacular. I was watching French Rugby League today and I watch NRL, SL and USARL I really really really like the Million Pound game. This RLWC is awesome dude. Rugby League will succeed in the USA. With the right marketing it would appeal to a lot of people I love matchups like St Helens vs Boston, New York vs London, Toronto vs Dublin, Philly vs Wigan. I’ve only been following for 2 years I’d had a lot of making up to do which is like sensory overload in a great way. Things like (1) Marty Smith getting his eyelid ripped off (2) King Wally! (3) Jamie Peacock punching Willy Mason I support the Toronto Wolfpack and Manly Sea Eagles. I learn the sport from all of you. And kudos to the Canadians for spearheading this. Thanks!
  5. 11 points
    As always, it's the RL on the field that saves the day and creates the most interesting talking points. We are just about to enter.. The most open Super League title race in its history A fantastic and diverse tussle ahead in the Championship League One that is simply too close to call A brand new Women's Super League officially running after the 2017 trial Add to that regular games in England, Wales, France and Canada and I'm getting fired up already. We have a lot of work to do off the field but you can't help but get excited about the season that is about to start. The players never fail to deliver. I can't wait for it all to get going! Who else is pumped up?
  6. 10 points
    U19s third season fourth if you count dummy run in 2015. Will play 21 games starting at Widnes 4th February. 9 games at home and 12 away including Bradford, London and Newcastle. 29 players listed with I think a third or more as newcomers. 17 from Perpignan, 8 from Provence, 2 from the Aude and one each from Paris and Villeneuve sur Lot. Somethings new this time round as half a dozen have been preparing with the Dragons squad up until Christmas. Expectations high after a semi final appearance for the first time in 2017. http://www.catalansdragons.com/articles-9/164-5561-le-groupe-et-le-calendrier-u19-devoiles/
  7. 10 points
  8. 9 points
    Well the conversation really meandered in the last number of posts from both my post 2 days ago and the main topic of discussion. To my fellow Canadian I would point out that I have followed LegendTex's posts on the forum since my commencement here, and he has posted many times on developments at the grassroots level and my assessment was that he was a true RL fan from its core group. I followed many of his threads last year on the Manchester Rangers, South America and if I recall correctly Serbia(?) among others. I respect that group of supporters even if I do not always agree with their beliefs. I don't believe we gain anything by trashing them for their differences of opinion especially when we do not know them. It will only breed more distrust and push the two sides further apart - and that is one outcome with potential to destroy the sport. BTW LegendTex I thank you for those posts. To the doubters and skeptics, and those with generally negative opinions about Toronto I can only suggest that you exercise more patience to see if your fears of a repeat of the past, or lack of talent, or concerns about money, and all the other negative issues I have seen brought up on the forum translate to a long term defeat of Toronto as a going concern, or a really detrimental impact to RL at the professional level. I am not deaf, nor do I believe my compatriots are either, on the potential negative impacts to the smaller centers in the RL heartland. Time will tell whether your fears of declining quality, loss of teams in the smaller centers and other concerns come to pass. I hope management will stick handle this with finesse but we have to expect their will be bumps on the road. I personally and professionally (speaking as a businessman) assess that at this time Toronto has invoked many more positives then negatives: it has brought in a wave of fan and financial interest from North America that is in process of translating to new teams, it should create new opportunities for the player pool to expand and give hope for a professional future to the talent pool, and it seems to be causing some renewed interest in the sport in mainland Europe as well, among the benefits that immediately come to mind. Its how I view the loss of the 3 players for which this thread is about. Its unfortunate, but its a short term event. I think its actual impact minor. Its a newsworthy event for a moment, but 2 weeks from now when the season commences it will be water under the bridge for the team, and the game - everyone's mind will be on the task at hand and this will be just another footnote to an ever developing story. Finally, Canadians can be brash and arrogant even over their fabled politeness. I note again for the record our 2 national sports are hockey and lacrosse. These are historically rough, boisterous, violent sports. Sort of at odds to the foreign impressions of our culture, but not if you live here. As was noted by Perez "RL is the most Canadian of sports which Canadians don't play" (or something like that). Every Canadian who has seen RL understands instinctively what he was saying. It is an explanation of our enthusiasm, and the success TWP enjoyed right out of the gate with attendance and publicity. I took a stab with some guesses in the thread we have in the TWP subforum at what these 3 did to get kicked to the curb. I apparently missed the mark but whatever it was, it was not good...
  9. 9 points
    Every single post of yours on this forum is some bitchy comment about Toronto or the people involved with the club - and they almost invariably end up proven to be false. Either someone is feeding you BS or you're just making it up yourself. Either way, I feel a bit sorry for you. Actually, editing this to say I don't feel sorry for you. Toronto have been a breath of fresh air in a stale sport that is being dragged backwards into a dead end by people like yourself. You've got an axe to grind, I get that, but without new clubs and new investors and new fans and new players RL in England is on a path to sporting irrelevance. A feeder for the NRL and union, and a cosy little game played in a handful of towns. Admired, after a fashion, but ultimately ignored and ignorable. It seems to me that the likes of Toronto and Toulouse are our last best hope of preventing that.
  10. 9 points
    http://www.rugbyleaguehub.com/2018/01/17/new-leadership-at-canada-rugby-league/
  11. 9 points
    It will, but if they were dismissed for disciplinary reasons, it sends out a strong message to the squad that they're not there for a holiday and need to be disciplined to be part of the Wolfpack. Might be setting a standard
  12. 9 points
    Well when you sign Dave Taylor and Ryan Bailey your only gonna get trouble
  13. 9 points
    Hamilton is also this: And this: And this: And this: And this: And yes, this: For all the bitching some of you do about stereotypes and bias... guess it only goes one way huh?
  14. 8 points
    Very much enjoyed the game. Some of the Leeds fringe players showed their class. Fitness was a massive difference tonight but that not really surprising. Holroyd looks like a very promising player for Leeds. Coventry gave it a good go scoring some nice tries. This game was never going to be about the result and it was a win win for all parties, Leeds players pushing for more appearances and Coventry getting in a big crowd. Very well done to the Bears. More excited about the season now.
  15. 8 points
    "Eve of Hearing" settlement. I guess the outcome both expected and hoped-for? Someone will have blinked first, no doubt - as almost always happens. Whether anything of what has been involved will ever get out probably depends on how effective the inevitable NDAs are? I can speculate, as can everyone else. But the main thing now surely is that everyone can move on (if, indeed, they have not already done so) and maybe actually start looking to the future for a change! And hopefully this is the final act in the long-running tragic saga, and the only entertainment the Bulls will give the game and its followers in future will be on the field. And those who seem to take a delight in having a go at the Bulls and Bulls supporters at every turn will need to go find another target.
  16. 8 points
    A number of posts deleted. Does EVERY thread about a non-heartlands club have to descend into conspiracy theories, libellous content and outright anger just because another club outside of the M62 bubble wants to play rugby?
  17. 8 points
    FFS. Lets all try and fcuk the NHS. I like to patronise our sponsors. I will make an exception with these ambulance chasing ******** Disgusting For the first time in my life I am ashamed of rugby league
  18. 8 points
    So you're saying I'm wrong then, and are denying that there's a huge pool of really good quality players down here that aren't being utilised? Cause you'd be either extremely ill-informed or nuts if you were saying that. Lets put things in perspective for a second- half of the teams in the QLD cup and NSW cup alone would easily be lower middle - middle of the table SL teams, I know that some of the people on here wont want to accept that but broadly speaking it's true and just humor me for a minute, that's roughly 13 teams worth of players just from the NSW cup and QLD cup alone, and without even taking into account players from the rest of the PIs and NZ or the rest of the Australian system, and sure those teams probably won't be winning the SL anytime soon, but Championship and League 1 on the other hand... Or using them as the bones of a team that could go on to do really well in the SL... And you lot don't even need 13 teams worth, realistically in the next few years you need 3-5 teams max, if you were sourcing players only from the NSW cup and QLD cup you could easily make 3-5 very solid teams out of that player pool alone, but you don't only have to source players from the NSW and Q cups, there're the players on the outer at NRL and SL clubs, their are the athletes in the PIs desperate for anybody to take a look at them, there are the blokes in NZ that missed out on a contract with the Warriors, their are the blokes that for whatever reason fell through the cracks and ended in lower up level League or in club rugby union, the blokes in the rest of the English system, etc, etc. And maybe you think that if their were any players worth having in the lower tiers in Australia then they would have already been picked up by an NRL club, again you'd either be extremely ill-informed or nuts to think that, but you might think that. If you do in fact think that then I'd just show you this picture- Left to right that's Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater, and Cam Smith posing for their under 19s Norths Devils team photo after being passed up by all the NRL teams development programs (including the Storm), until over the next year or so they were all signed by the Storm, First Cam Smith was scouted as a cheap back to the back ups back up hooker for the reserves grade, then Cronk was pick up dirt cheap to trail with the reserves after being spotted playing club RU in Brisbane, then finally Slater signed when he trailed at public open trials for the Storm in Brisbane... Each of them signed on $5k contracts with no promises and weren't expected to do much, maybe hold spots in the reserve grade or third tier... That's right three of the best players not just of their generation but ever were all missed by the tradiotional NRL juniors system, and by blind luck where picked up by the storm, and they aren't the only stories of great players falling through the cracks only to be discovered by chance latter on from through out the years, Jordan Rapana comes to mind as another more recent example, he went through the Titans system and played a few games for them way back when before going on a mission for a few years, after coming back from his Mormon mission all of the NRL clubs passed on signing him, somehow he ended up playing club RU for the Royals in the local Canberra RU competition, before being spotted by both the Brumbies and the Raiders after about a year at which point both chased him for a train and trial and eventually for a signature, and there're almost certainly plenty more players who have fallen through the cracks that could have been or could still become some of the GOAT. So yeah, long story short you haven't got a clue what you are talking about...
  19. 8 points
    not seen this mentioned unless I missed it but Aviva have awarded £25000 to Cramlington Rockets to develop the game in Northumberland. Could they be warming to our code ?
  20. 7 points
    Incidentally, and regarding moving on. John Kear came and addressed the Bullbuilder AGM last night. I am sure all those who were there will confirm, he is one hell of a motivational guy. Probably the most uplifting talk I can remember in over 20 years of close engagement with senior Bulls personnel. You very much feel the corner HAS been turned - stadium issues notwithstanding. The meeting was at the excellent Tong training centre, and I defy anyone going there not to be impressed. Kear reckons it is on a par with the top 6 in SL. What struck me the most was the general mood and attitude of the players (all grades) there. Came across as more positive and upbeat than I can remember, certainly in recent times. Very uplifting. Kear said that he believed in "5 or 6 years" the club would be back in SL. He added (I paraphrase) "Not where we belong - that would be conceited and very wrong to suggest that - but by earning our place there". I don't think Bulls supporters could ask for more?
  21. 7 points
    Disappointed is an understatement for how it makes me feel, and really feel for all the squad and management they have let down, apart from themselves. But if TWP have to do in 5 years what others have done in a 100, I suppose they have to go through things like this in perhaps a shorter term than others. I am glad to see the vast majority of SM is saying that the club has dealt with it professionally and that it is the players at fault, and hopefully the positive gang of TWP fans can keep the faith and persuade newbies and those few wondering what to do, to also keep the faith, the lads who still play for the team need your support at this time.
  22. 7 points
    Drop in investment, rising inflation, growth slowing compared to the rest of the world, businesses struggling due to falling value of pound, increased costs of cars, holidays etc... All have come true. You're right that I don't think anyone specifically predicted that the BoE would have to pour billions into the economy just maintain stability. Then there were the Project Fear things we were told would either be negotiated or avoided. Things like being able to keep European agencies - and their jobs - in the UK. Things like how investment in scientific research would be fine - when it's falling significantly already. But, yes, if it helps your algorithm of happiness to keep ignoring everything that's difficult then it has all been fine and nothing bad has happened.
  23. 7 points
    Quick! Someone post the 'passing the ball backwards over the head' video before it gets out of control.
  24. 7 points
    I could see clubs and fans really welcoming the RFL signing a deal which cost us money.
  25. 7 points
    I see Parky is going to use the argument of extremes technique every time now. He's thrown in the argument of authority (no one has a better opinion on administration of the game then former player Jamie Peacock apparently). And a few facts are missing from the lack of quality players argument when we expanded to 14 teams (like the introduction of a tighter quota at the same time meaning we needed to find even more players). The relaxing of the quota has helped in this regard. There will always be a dip in quality initially when you expand. No one ever adds to the average of anything at first. It's not an argument to not expand, and if we keep cutting back there'll be nothing left.
  26. 7 points
    For the sake of accuracy, let me point out that many large companies - especially but not exclusively in the financial sector - have a grant-making, but arms-length, charitable trust that offers grant aid to worthy (typically community) projects. So it is not Aviva themselves, but the Aviva Community Fund, which has made this wonderful grant to Cramlington; well done the Rockets! There are many grant-making trusts which exist only to offer funding support to worthy projects; I see one estimate is that there are over 4,500 such trusts, collectively offering over £6 billion in grants per annum. No doubt the vast majority will have no interest in funding rugby league, but a few might; they need to be identified and encouraged! I suspect (but do not know for sure) that RL is not very geared up to tapping in to much of this largesse. Perhaps the RFL should have a specialist in this area in post, to support the grassroots game; better still, get a grant from one of these trusts to fund such a post!
  27. 7 points
    Fev fans are going to be coming on all superior.
  28. 7 points
    Shall I lock this now, whilst everyone is happy...?
  29. 6 points
    Also agree. Some of the other posts on here make me sad. The attendance at the game last night shows how much potential there is at the Bears. Everyone associated with Leeds was so complimentary of everything the Bears are trying to achieve. They've been in League one for 3 seasons so far and competing against clubs that have been around for over 100 years, that have more resources and bigger player pools to pick from. Coventry and other so called expansion teams should be applauded for everything they do.
  30. 6 points
    Whenever there is a silver lining some RL fans see a cloud.
  31. 6 points
    I’ve been to the Skolars game the last 4 years & today’s was a disappointing performance from a Skolars team that seem to be suffering from senior players leaving/retiring & newer players needing time to get to know each other. However to quote another thread ‘This year Wigan brought 13 first team squad members and of those 7 have played in SL. Hardly an under19 side. ‘ it’s not surprising that Wigan performed so dominantly. Credit needs to go to both Skolars & Coventry for arranging these fixtures & testing themselves against superior opposition - not only raises the profile of the game, but also gives kids in London & Coventry an viable alternative to union. Much respect for Wigan/Leeds to get involved with supporting the lower division too.
  32. 6 points
    My first visit to the forum and post since shortly after Christmas due to a very bad chest infection. Thank you to the mods for deleting all the ###### before I ever got here, hence I only had to wade through 8 pgs of comments versus the anticipated 50, for which I am ever grateful. In honor of my return I handed out many thanks on comments. I found many funny, interesting, and some even helpful! I did a multi-quote below, so its lengthy reply although most of my replies are short. I have a few stray thoughts at the end. You have no idea. NHL and junior hockey teams rule their player conduct with an iron hand. Unlike the NFL or Basketball. They start wearing suits/shirt and tie by the time they are 14-16 mandatory for all public appearances and travel. Heavy drinking/drugs is a rarity among NHL players. Nothing is 100% but I cannot remember the last time an Toronto Maple Leaf was found to be engaging in any stupid activity of this nature. They would be gone in 2 secs. Its not tolerated or acceptable at all here. Agreed! You are certainly living up to your nom de guerre. Respectfully I disagree and I don't think what we know at this time about this matter quite warrants that degree of skepticism but to each their own... I think it still will be such. Exactly! It may be a positive impact in fact... You are prescient and I think are correct. It appears to me that Rowley is indicating that its his way or the highway and it appears to be a public warning under guise of interview to players that he is the coach, and the decider. I found nothing wrong with his opinions in this interview. I recall from past posts this is the "bee in your bonnet" and no matter what anyone else says it seems you are sticking with it. The team in fact has 2 Canadians and 1 American, but I think the intent had been to let them gain experience outside of Championship. I actually believe both Ngawati and Burroughs are fine to play with TWP in Championship and do not need to gain more experience. Burroughs is fast and smart in his vision and ball handling, and Ngawati is tough and strong for his age. I hope so as well although its not at that part of the field the team is now lacking in bodies. My overall thought on this news of their departure is "Oh Well". Bailey was a non-factor other then being another body. We had not seen him since May in the past year anyways. It is sad that after TWP went to bat for him legally this is the final outcome. I suspect he is finished as a player at this level. FFMM will be missed. He really did seem to love playing for TWP and I think their was potential of post career work for TWP in coaching or in public relations for the team. He also worked hard on the field and his fitness had improved. He could not be on field all game but he still had impact potential. Taylor we will never know. Notwithstanding the loss of the above, TWP still has a very good Championship group of front and 2nd row. More then good enough for the initial campaign. The real worry is injuries as the season progresses. So they will need to sign some bodies. But its to increase the comfort level, not out of desperation. As has been noted, there is some talent out there. And it does not have to be SL quality, just good enough to provide support off the bench and relief on games against weaker sides. There is certainly even a few props in L1 who might be worth a look and be happy to have the opportunity. To be a fly on the wall... but somehow these 3 rubbed the coach and management the wrong way in a drastic manner. This was very much a "your fired with cause" if I read the tea leaves correctly. Interesting times...
  33. 6 points
    People always use things like T20, Darts, Snooker, Boxing etc as evidence that SL is under-delivering, ignoring the growth that has been delivered since the advent of SL. Let's look at some of the things they have done: Create a league season. Yeah, we've had that for decades. Create events - again, we were one of the first major sports over here to adopt the 'razamatazz' - club nicknames, mascots, pre match entertainment etc. and we were (and still are) ripped by many people - despite the fact that it has created a real family environment. Magic Weekend has been a great addition to the calendar (loads of stick), and the Grand Final is an outstanding event. We are hosting great world cups and working towards new international events. New formats - this is something where there may be opportunity - but as has been discussed before, cricket fixed a problem that some fans could not (or didn't want to) commit to a full day (or 4/5) to watch a game of cricket and just wanted a night out. We already had a 2hr event. They wanted a slogfest for fun, we already have a game with loads of action. Personally, I think these sports have learnt a lot from RL.
  34. 6 points
    Hearn gets involved and you'll have a franchised league playing on midweek evenings on Sky faster than you can say "but he's made the darts really popular".
  35. 6 points
    blessing in disguise, weed out the bad apples before they have a chance to sour the rest, taylor and bailey both a waste of money that could be spent on better- well done twp for not hesitating to get rid
  36. 6 points
    That's exactly what it is. Won't stop braindead idiots blaming the RFL for immigration rules agreed with the Home Office. As for Minga, hopefully he remains with Toulouse and regains the trust of the coach and club.
  37. 6 points
    Couldn't agree more. We can't keep claiming there aren't enough players - there are. What we are really claiming is that there aren't enough players at a fictitious standard that we have made up in our head. If the comp was to move to 16 teams right now with these new teams and gave some leeway on overseas players, that would work in terms of filling squads. No doubt many would moan about the standard dropping, but that is an over-stated measure of success. If you ask me some of the sports out there are rubbish at a terrible standard but get great coverage and figures. We need to calm down a touch on standards (that doesn't mean that clubs etc. shouldn't be investing to get the best standards they can).
  38. 6 points
    Don't get ahead of yourself Parky...but you have finally put forward some fine ideas and we will hold you to them.
  39. 5 points
    http://www.ffr13.fr/ffrxiii-tv/ Sunday 2pm GMT.
  40. 5 points
    I'm not a Toronto fan mate. I'm a Rugby League fan who's sick and tired of watching the game regress year after year. This isn't your sport, btw, it's for everyone. But that attitude you've so perfectly encapsulated is the sole reason the game is in a dead end and facing irrelevance. Enjoy it when you achieve it though, and don't come complaining that the game is ignored and belittled.
  41. 5 points
    Lezignan : Damien Cardace is back after injury during the world cup Walid Bouregba a very promising player is back from suspension Eloi Pelissier, Ben Pomeroy in starting team. A player to discover: Bernard Gregorius, best try scorer and player last season in Elite 2 and who is really a wonderkid.
  42. 5 points
    He does seem to be well informed. By chance can you pick 6 numbers between 1 and 49 for me?
  43. 5 points
    Hang on I’ll tell you now and it’ll save people going tomorrow 😂
  44. 5 points
    You need to prioritise ball skills if you want to get a game. It is RL after all.
  45. 5 points
    He’s too busy doing fish orders now.
  46. 5 points
    Without these tough forwards - will it be more like the Toronto Lurpack rather than Wolfpack for the first few games?
  47. 5 points
    Because i suspect the rule is in to ensure that the players coming in arr regular first teamers and therefore of a sufficent quality to add something to the comp. 75% is quite arbitary and when you look at the fact he has played 45 first team games over the last two years, that is a regular first teamer and not an abuse of the system. If that is the only issue here I would expext some form of leniency through appeal, particularly in sport where injuries mean you can miss games. We are at risk of making people play when injured. It is perfectly reasonable to expect a buffer when we are talking a high number of games - 1 more appearance would have been there. Surely an inkury report would suffice.
  48. 5 points
    When it applies to the royals having more than two state funded offspring then I’ll accept people suggesting the jobless do the same.
  49. 5 points
    This again really. The simple fact is an offside in football is a simple line decision. Were a forward pass isn’t.
  50. 5 points
    This has happened every year for the past decade or so in which we will see big crowds in the opening rounds only for them to slowly tail off and see the usual teams win silverware. Even as a saints fan I’m desperate to see a new name on the super league trophy because I’m a RL fan 1st. Maybe Hull FC can lift the super league trophy in October.