Gerrumonside ref Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 10 minutes ago, hw88 said: They bought good players but not really outstanding ones and they didn't pay over the odds for them like they do today - Withe, Robertson, McGovern, etc. Clough then took those players and coached/made them into European Champions. Today's top managers only succeed because they have millions to spend. Give Guardiola Accrington's squad, let's see how he gets on then! They spent a lot on Trevor Francis and I think the level of investment to get promoted and then win the league wasn’t insubstantial though. My own view on Brian Clough is he was a great man-manager, motivator and self-publicist! His assistant Peter Taylor should get as much of the plaudits for the actual coaching, tactics and the identification of key players. I believe this is borne out by the success they had together at other clubs and not when apart. This is no slight on Clough as all the great managers like Busby, Shankly, Paisley and Ferguson relied on their coaching teams and he was no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hw88 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Gerrumonside ref said: They spent a lot on Trevor Francis and I think the level of investment to get promoted and then win the league wasn’t insubstantial though. My own view on Brian Clough is he was a great man-manager, motivator and self-publicist! His assistant Peter Taylor should get as much of the plaudits for the actual coaching, tactics and the identification of key players. I believe this is borne out by the success they had together at other clubs and not when apart. This is no slight on Clough as all the great managers like Busby, Shankly, Paisley and Ferguson relied on their coaching teams and he was no different. I have a feeling it was £999,999.99p so that he didn't have the pressure of being the first £million player! I reckon if you look at whoever is top of the different divisions today they will have spent more than most of their rivals to get there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, hw88 said: I have a feeling it was £999,999.99p so that he didn't have the pressure of being the first £million player! I reckon if you look at whoever is top of the different divisions today they will have spent more than most of their rivals to get there. Yes Also they bought Francis in 1979, the year after they won the league. He didn't win the league with them. The league winning team was made up of signings most other teams discarded. McGovern, O'Hare, Burns etc. Shilton was a key buy but he was the only expensive signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Villa gone, Newcastle gone, Chelsea and Everton too. All I want now is Arsenal losing tomorrow. F A cup delivers again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Niels said: Yes Also they bought Francis in 1979, the year after they won the league. He didn't win the league with them. The league winning team was made up of signings most other teams discarded. McGovern, O'Hare, Burns etc. Shilton was a key buy but he was the only expensive signing. That’s how the game was back then Liverpool/Villa the other successful sides at the time weren’t spending millions either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Garetn Bale has retired from playing club and international football. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyXIII Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wolford6 said: Garetn Bale has retired from playing club and international football. Didn't he retire from club football about a year after going to Real Madrid? Edited January 9 by tonyXIII Rethymno Rugby League Appreciation Society Founder (and, so far, only) member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Okay. In the bowels of the Sussex County Women's League Division One today I saw something I had never seen happen at a game before. I checked with my Dad (first game 1952, over 2,000 matches since) and he hasn't seen it either. The Assistant Referee was not only sent off but expelled from the ground. I shall now explain for those of you who have never watched a grassroots game in your lives. Once you reach a certain tier in both men's and women's football the assistants are provided by the clubs. They do actually have to be reasonably impartial. I've seen referees ask for the liner to be swapped if they are being too obviously in favour of their own sides. Today, early in the second half. The Eastbourne Town provided assistant disagreed with the referee. And he shouted his annoyance. The ref goes over to him and says he will now need for him to hand his flag to someone else as he can't be undermined like that. This causes more 'animated discussion'. The upshot is that the assistant is, technically, red carded. He marches off to the stands. The ref then decides that, actually, that isn't good enough and he needs the man physically removed from the ground. And so some poor sap from the Eastbourne bench has to go over and do this. And the referee refuses to restart the match until he is gone. Bear in mind this is a non league ground. Everyone can hear every word. The funniest thing about it all? The decision that provoked the wrath was one of the worst I have seen in football in a long, long time. The liner was right to be annoyed. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, gingerjon said: Okay. In the bowels of the Sussex County Women's League Division One today I saw something I had never seen happen at a game before. I checked with my Dad (first game 1952, over 2,000 matches since) and he hasn't seen it either. The Assistant Referee was not only sent off but expelled from the ground. I shall now explain for those of you who have never watched a grassroots game in your lives. Once you reach a certain tier in both men's and women's football the assistants are provided by the clubs. They do actually have to be reasonably impartial. I've seen referees ask for the liner to be swapped if they are being too obviously in favour of their own sides. Today, early in the second half. The Eastbourne Town provided assistant disagreed with the referee. And he shouted his annoyance. The ref goes over to him and says he will now need for him to hand his flag to someone else as he can't be undermined like that. This causes more 'animated discussion'. The upshot is that the assistant is, technically, red carded. He marches off to the stands. The ref then decides that, actually, that isn't good enough and he needs the man physically removed from the ground. And so some poor sap from the Eastbourne bench has to go over and do this. And the referee refuses to restart the match until he is gone. Bear in mind this is a non league ground. Everyone can hear every word. The funniest thing about it all? The decision that provoked the wrath was one of the worst I have seen in football in a long, long time. The liner was right to be annoyed. Been to plenty of amateur football before but not seen that I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, gingerjon said: Okay. In the bowels of the Sussex County Women's League Division One today I saw something I had never seen happen at a game before. I checked with my Dad (first game 1952, over 2,000 matches since) and he hasn't seen it either. The Assistant Referee was not only sent off but expelled from the ground. I shall now explain for those of you who have never watched a grassroots game in your lives. Once you reach a certain tier in both men's and women's football the assistants are provided by the clubs. They do actually have to be reasonably impartial. I've seen referees ask for the liner to be swapped if they are being too obviously in favour of their own sides. Today, early in the second half. The Eastbourne Town provided assistant disagreed with the referee. And he shouted his annoyance. The ref goes over to him and says he will now need for him to hand his flag to someone else as he can't be undermined like that. This causes more 'animated discussion'. The upshot is that the assistant is, technically, red carded. He marches off to the stands. The ref then decides that, actually, that isn't good enough and he needs the man physically removed from the ground. And so some poor sap from the Eastbourne bench has to go over and do this. And the referee refuses to restart the match until he is gone. Bear in mind this is a non league ground. Everyone can hear every word. The funniest thing about it all? The decision that provoked the wrath was one of the worst I have seen in football in a long, long time. The liner was right to be annoyed. https://youtu.be/Tn4LQyKUQMk Must watch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 09/01/2023 at 20:21, tonyXIII said: Didn't he retire from club football about a year after going to Real Madrid? So not Surreal Madrid then? 1 eiπ + 1 = 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 14 hours ago, Tommygilf said: https://youtu.be/Tn4LQyKUQMk Must watch You've done it now! People will be saying , "That's nothing! I remember an RL game at (insert stadium name) when (insert referee name) etc etc et c....." eiπ + 1 = 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Wrexham FA Cup game on BBC at 4pm. A friend of mine is the Project Manager for the new stand. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 hours ago, Wolford6 said: Wrexham FA Cup game on BBC at 4pm. A friend of mine is the Project Manager for the new stand. They did well. A draw and nearly won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Niels said: They did well. A draw and nearly won. Missed their chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: Missed their chance Yes I agree. Sheffield United should beat them at home. It's very open now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 29/01/2023 at 15:37, Wolford6 said: Wrexham FA Cup game on BBC at 4pm. A friend of mine is the Project Manager for the new stand. This little clip just popped up in my YouTube recommends: Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Anyone know any entertaining YouTube channels based around the world of non-league football that you recommend I have a watch of? Maybe a bit of a football/travel type thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said: Anyone know any entertaining YouTube channels based around the world of non-league football that you recommend I have a watch of? Maybe a bit of a football/travel type thing? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Checking with Google, it seems that Brynglas Dynamo are no longer in existence. Pity; that was a great name. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Really interesting debate here; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64493480 The Premier league is now effectively the European Super League by default. This transfer window saw the EPL outspend the other major leagues by 4 times as much. In effect the EPL is saving some smaller leagues like Belgium from financial disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, HawkMan said: Really interesting debate here; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64493480 The Premier league is now effectively the European Super League by default. This transfer window saw the EPL outspend the other major leagues by 4 times as much. In effect the EPL is saving some smaller leagues like Belgium from financial disaster. This was argaubly the main reason why the European Super League failed, it already exists in England. La Liga and its top clubs are in a situation entirely of their own making however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSantos Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Tommygilf said: This was argaubly the main reason why the European Super League failed. It really wasn't/ Running the Rob Burrow marathon to raise money for the My Name'5 Doddie foundation: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ben-dyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 36 minutes ago, MattSantos said: It really wasn't/ It was, once the Premier League teams were out the concept was dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSantos Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Tommygilf said: It was, once the Premier League teams were out the concept was dead. That's not what you said though, by saying that the ESL failed because it already existed in England doesn't make sense. If that was the case, why would the clubs want to join (and they still do)? The root cause of the failure was a furious backlash from the fans and subsequently politicians across Europe. It would have been interesting if they wouldn't have granted the 12/14 clubs entry in perpetuity and expanded/reformatted the Champions League instead. Too greedy, too early. Anyway, an interesting factoid is that i worked at BoNY at the time of the Glazers takeover (would have been 2004) and under my managers approval, cancelled the 2 trades effectively confirming the purchase; 1 for 400m and one for for around 370m if i remember rightly. Cancelled them next day as well as the bank at their end messed it up. Delayed it by 2 days Running the Rob Burrow marathon to raise money for the My Name'5 Doddie foundation: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ben-dyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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