Disciplinary

[snapski 994]

As we all knew apart from the ones with cherry and white blinkers. Say it again James Child is simply not good enough.

 

Morgan Smithies of Wigan Warriors has been issued with a two-match penalty notice after today’s meeting of the RFL Match Review Panel on a Grade C charge of headbutting in Saturday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers.

Smithies has also been ordered to appear at a tribunal tomorrow on a Grade D charge of dangerous contact, following an incident in the 43^rd minute of the match.

Suaia Matagi of Huddersfield Giants has been issued with a two-match penalty notice on a Grade C charge of dangerous contact in the 58^th minute of Sunday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC.

Joe Cator of Hull FC has been issued with a one-match penalty notice on a Grade B charge of dangerous contact in the 45^th minute of the same fixture.

 

[Hela Wigmen 2,942]

Is the Dangerous Contact the Clare crusher or did he do a third one?

[DavidM 10,735]

I don’t know how he wasn’t sent off . There’s a ref and VR looking at all this . This pretty much confirms it

[doc 325]

Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine.

[Scubby 12,264]

1 hour ago, snapski said:

As we all knew apart from the ones with cherry and white blinkers. Say it again James Child is simply not good enough.

 

Morgan Smithies of Wigan Warriors has been issued with a two-match penalty notice after today’s meeting of the RFL Match Review Panel on a Grade C charge of headbutting in Saturday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers.

Smithies has also been ordered to appear at a tribunal tomorrow on a Grade D charge of dangerous contact, following an incident in the 43^rd minute of the match.

Suaia Matagi of Huddersfield Giants has been issued with a two-match penalty notice on a Grade C charge of dangerous contact in the 58^th minute of Sunday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC.

Joe Cator of Hull FC has been issued with a one-match penalty notice on a Grade B charge of dangerous contact in the 45^th minute of the same fixture.

 

Those charges seem much larger than usual! 

[JohnM 7,636]

1 hour ago, snapski said:

As we all knew apart from the ones with cherry and white blinkers. Say it again James Child is simply not good enough.

 

Morgan Smithies of Wigan Warriors has been issued with a two-match penalty notice after today’s meeting of the RFL Match Review Panel on a Grade C charge of headbutting in Saturday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers.

Smithies has also been ordered to appear at a tribunal tomorrow on a Grade D charge of dangerous contact, following an incident in the 43^rd minute of the match.

Suaia Matagi of Huddersfield Giants has been issued with a two-match penalty notice on a Grade C charge of dangerous contact in the 58^th minute of Sunday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC.

Joe Cator of Hull FC has been issued with a one-match penalty notice on a Grade B charge of dangerous contact in the 45^th minute of the same fixture.

 

So exactly what is wrong with this? 

[Exiled Wiganer 3,644]

10 minutes ago, JohnM said:

So exactly what is wrong with this? 

The font is too big. 

[DavidM 10,735]

52 minutes ago, doc said:

Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine.

Not the big city in Texas then ?

[Exiled Wiganer 3,644]

42 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Not the big city in Texas then ?

Plus, we clearly have a problem with him.

[LeeF 2,198]

1 hour ago, doc said:

Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine.

Phil Bentham’s mate?

[EagleEyePie 415]

I hope he learns from this and plays smarter in the future. I know that as a smaller forward it helps to be aggressive but there's obviously a line that shouldn't be crossed. Bateman looked like he could fall foul of letting his aggression get the best of him when he was the same age. A few years later and he's likely to be a captaincy candidate next season.

He's a very talented player is Smithies, but no Wigan fan is too worried about him not being available for selection for a few weeks. We've got plenty of competition for places in his position so if he continues to fall foul of the disciplinary committee he could lose his place and I'm sure he's aware of that.

[JohnM 7,636]

Bearing in mind that though the forum is the place for discussions, it's the ref and disciplinary that makes the decisions...on the evidence.

[doc 325]

2 hours ago, DavidM said:

Not the big city in Texas then ?

No, Houston with a W. Don't think he played alongside Dallas either.

[Old Frightful 6,374]

10 hours ago, JohnM said:

So exactly what is wrong with this? 

A Hull FC player has been disciplined, it's at the bottom in large letters mate.

[Harry Stottle 4,335]

The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! 

I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail.

 

Edited September 1, 2020 by Harry Stottle

[JohnM 7,636]

29 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! 

I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail.

 

 

These "old pro" role models of yours, did they have as strong a grip on reality as you? 

[Davo5 5,269]

46 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! 

I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail.

 

You mean like that model of virtuosity & gentlemanly conduct Tim Street,behave H

[Harry Stottle 4,335]

14 minutes ago, JohnM said:

 

These "old pro" role models of yours, did they have as strong a grip on reality as you? 

An "eye for eye" John.

Please emphasise what you mean by 'a strong grip on reality' I am really interested to hear your version.

[Harry Stottle 4,335]

4 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

You mean like that model of virtuosity & gentlemanly conduct Tim Street,behave H

Now I know you are a Wiggin fan Dav, would you like me to list a few enforcers that have been employed down the years at Central Park and the JJB. 

Also since the Nat. Conference came into being it has given me the opportunity to see and visit teams from farther afield I have had the pleasure of going up to and watching Wath Brow on a few occasions, his name escapes me at the moment but I seem to recall you had a lad who was pretty handy at keeping "law and order" on the field, also witnessed Leroy Joe showing his experience and a few 'professional' traits, but as far as I am concerned Dav this is Rugby League. 

Dare I say in my opinion the game has become to sanitised in recent years?

"I'll get me coat".

 

[Just Browny 7,406]

16 hours ago, doc said:

Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine.

Struggling to remember him playing well. He was certainly good for a penalty or ten.

[Davo5 5,269]

9 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Now I know you are a Wiggin fan Dav, would you like me to list a few enforcers that have been employed down the years at Central Park and the JJB. 

Also since the Nat. Conference came into being it has given me the opportunity to see and visit teams from farther afield I have had the pleasure of going up to and watching Wath Brow on a few occasions, his name escapes me at the moment but I seem to recall you had a lad who was pretty handy at keeping "law and order" on the field, also witnessed Leroy Joe showing his experience and a few 'professional' traits, but as far as I am concerned Dav this is Rugby League. 

Dare I say in my opinion the game has become to sanitised in recent years?

"I'll get me coat".

 

So it's not really as you stated "it's the trouble with the modern game" now is it and Smithies actions while wrong and rightly punished by suspension pales in significance compared to the thuggery displayed by many players in the days you seem so keen on celebrating.

[DavidM 10,735]

2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! 

I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail.

 

Yep , that’s often how it was 

[JohnM 7,636]

Angels of the North. 

Brendan Hill

Jim Mills

Mike Nicolas

Alex Murphy

IIRC thee is a club near Leeds called Queens.Bit of a reputation?

[Hela Wigmen 2,942]

15 hours ago, EagleEyePie said:

I hope he learns from this and plays smarter in the future. I know that as a smaller forward it helps to be aggressive but there's obviously a line that shouldn't be crossed. Bateman looked like he could fall foul of letting his aggression get the best of him when he was the same age. A few years later and he's likely to be a captaincy candidate next season.

He's a very talented player is Smithies, but no Wigan fan is too worried about him not being available for selection for a few weeks. We've got plenty of competition for places in his position so if he continues to fall foul of the disciplinary committee he could lose his place and I'm sure he's aware of that.

This could have been said about Matty Lees a few years ago. He had a spell of yellow and red cards and disciplinary appearances but seems to have channelled his aggression correctly now. Smithies will be the same. It’s a bit of a learning curve.   

[Barry Badrinath 310]

24 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

This could have been said about Matty Lees a few years ago. He had a spell of yellow and red cards and disciplinary appearances but seems to have channelled his aggression correctly now. Smithies will be the same. It’s a bit of a learning curve.   

nah he just gets away with it more, he's also quite easily rattled if you get into him