snapski Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 As we all knew apart from the ones with cherry and white blinkers. Say it again James Child is simply not good enough. Morgan Smithies of Wigan Warriors has been issued with a two-match penalty notice after today’s meeting of the RFL Match Review Panel on a Grade C charge of headbutting in Saturday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers. Smithies has also been ordered to appear at a tribunal tomorrow on a Grade D charge of dangerous contact, following an incident in the 43rd minute of the match. Suaia Matagi of Huddersfield Giants has been issued with a two-match penalty notice on a Grade C charge of dangerous contact in the 58th minute of Sunday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC. Joe Cator of Hull FC has been issued with a one-match penalty notice on a Grade B charge of dangerous contact in the 45th minute of the same fixture.
Hela Wigmen Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 Is the Dangerous Contact the Clare crusher or did he do a third one?
DavidM Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 I don’t know how he wasn’t sent off . There’s a ref and VR looking at all this . This pretty much confirms it
doc Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine.
Scubby Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, snapski said: As we all knew apart from the ones with cherry and white blinkers. Say it again James Child is simply not good enough. Morgan Smithies of Wigan Warriors has been issued with a two-match penalty notice after today’s meeting of the RFL Match Review Panel on a Grade C charge of headbutting in Saturday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers. Smithies has also been ordered to appear at a tribunal tomorrow on a Grade D charge of dangerous contact, following an incident in the 43rd minute of the match. Suaia Matagi of Huddersfield Giants has been issued with a two-match penalty notice on a Grade C charge of dangerous contact in the 58th minute of Sunday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC. Joe Cator of Hull FC has been issued with a one-match penalty notice on a Grade B charge of dangerous contact in the 45th minute of the same fixture. Those charges seem much larger than usual!
JohnM Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, snapski said: As we all knew apart from the ones with cherry and white blinkers. Say it again James Child is simply not good enough. Morgan Smithies of Wigan Warriors has been issued with a two-match penalty notice after today’s meeting of the RFL Match Review Panel on a Grade C charge of headbutting in Saturday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers. Smithies has also been ordered to appear at a tribunal tomorrow on a Grade D charge of dangerous contact, following an incident in the 43rd minute of the match. Suaia Matagi of Huddersfield Giants has been issued with a two-match penalty notice on a Grade C charge of dangerous contact in the 58th minute of Sunday’s Betfred Super League fixture against Hull FC. Joe Cator of Hull FC has been issued with a one-match penalty notice on a Grade B charge of dangerous contact in the 45th minute of the same fixture. So exactly what is wrong with this? Bernard Manning lives! Welcome to be New RFL, the sport's answer to the Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club.
Exiled Wiganer Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, JohnM said: So exactly what is wrong with this? The font is too big.
DavidM Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 52 minutes ago, doc said: Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine. Not the big city in Texas then ?
Exiled Wiganer Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, DavidM said: Not the big city in Texas then ? Plus, we clearly have a problem with him.
LeeF Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, doc said: Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine. Phil Bentham’s mate?
EagleEyePie Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 I hope he learns from this and plays smarter in the future. I know that as a smaller forward it helps to be aggressive but there's obviously a line that shouldn't be crossed. Bateman looked like he could fall foul of letting his aggression get the best of him when he was the same age. A few years later and he's likely to be a captaincy candidate next season. He's a very talented player is Smithies, but no Wigan fan is too worried about him not being available for selection for a few weeks. We've got plenty of competition for places in his position so if he continues to fall foul of the disciplinary committee he could lose his place and I'm sure he's aware of that.
JohnM Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 Bearing in mind that though the forum is the place for discussions, it's the ref and disciplinary that makes the decisions...on the evidence. Bernard Manning lives! Welcome to be New RFL, the sport's answer to the Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club.
doc Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, DavidM said: Not the big city in Texas then ? No, Houston with a W. Don't think he played alongside Dallas either.
Old Frightful Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 10 hours ago, JohnM said: So exactly what is wrong with this? A Hull FC player has been disciplined, it's at the bottom in large letters mate. "You've only won one trophy SINCE 1985"
Harry Stottle Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail.
JohnM Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail. These "old pro" role models of yours, did they have as strong a grip on reality as you? Bernard Manning lives! Welcome to be New RFL, the sport's answer to the Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club.
Davo5 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail. You mean like that model of virtuosity & gentlemanly conduct Tim Street,behave H
Harry Stottle Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, JohnM said: These "old pro" role models of yours, did they have as strong a grip on reality as you? An "eye for eye" John. Please emphasise what you mean by 'a strong grip on reality' I am really interested to hear your version.
Harry Stottle Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Davo5 said: You mean like that model of virtuosity & gentlemanly conduct Tim Street,behave H Now I know you are a Wiggin fan Dav, would you like me to list a few enforcers that have been employed down the years at Central Park and the JJB. Also since the Nat. Conference came into being it has given me the opportunity to see and visit teams from farther afield I have had the pleasure of going up to and watching Wath Brow on a few occasions, his name escapes me at the moment but I seem to recall you had a lad who was pretty handy at keeping "law and order" on the field, also witnessed Leroy Joe showing his experience and a few 'professional' traits, but as far as I am concerned Dav this is Rugby League. Dare I say in my opinion the game has become to sanitised in recent years? "I'll get me coat".
Just Browny Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 16 hours ago, doc said: Smithies reminds me of Houston, formerly of Widnes. Aggressive in tackle, plays well, but is a penalty machine. Struggling to remember him playing well. He was certainly good for a penalty or ten. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.
Davo5 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Now I know you are a Wiggin fan Dav, would you like me to list a few enforcers that have been employed down the years at Central Park and the JJB. Also since the Nat. Conference came into being it has given me the opportunity to see and visit teams from farther afield I have had the pleasure of going up to and watching Wath Brow on a few occasions, his name escapes me at the moment but I seem to recall you had a lad who was pretty handy at keeping "law and order" on the field, also witnessed Leroy Joe showing his experience and a few 'professional' traits, but as far as I am concerned Dav this is Rugby League. Dare I say in my opinion the game has become to sanitised in recent years? "I'll get me coat". So it's not really as you stated "it's the trouble with the modern game" now is it and Smithies actions while wrong and rightly punished by suspension pales in significance compared to the thuggery displayed by many players in the days you seem so keen on celebrating.
DavidM Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: The trouble with the modern game is it allows cheap shot merchants such as Smithies to get away with 10 mins in the bin then allowed back on the field, had that first offence happened (two headbutts and a swinging arm albeit it missed but the intent was there) a few years back there would be one or two 'old pro's' who would be having a 'physical' little private word in his ear hole, after the second offence (crusher, as bad as it comes) it would not have been any disciplinary that would be keeping him on the sidelines for a few weeks! I remember the times when someone commited an offense that was so blatantly obvious it led to the victim being taken from the field injured and so the crowd would chant Off, Off, Off, I use to comment and say 'leave him on" justice will no doubt prevail. Yep , that’s often how it was
JohnM Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 Angels of the North. Brendan Hill Jim Mills Mike Nicolas Alex Murphy IIRC thee is a club near Leeds called Queens.Bit of a reputation? Bernard Manning lives! Welcome to be New RFL, the sport's answer to the Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club.
Hela Wigmen Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 15 hours ago, EagleEyePie said: I hope he learns from this and plays smarter in the future. I know that as a smaller forward it helps to be aggressive but there's obviously a line that shouldn't be crossed. Bateman looked like he could fall foul of letting his aggression get the best of him when he was the same age. A few years later and he's likely to be a captaincy candidate next season. He's a very talented player is Smithies, but no Wigan fan is too worried about him not being available for selection for a few weeks. We've got plenty of competition for places in his position so if he continues to fall foul of the disciplinary committee he could lose his place and I'm sure he's aware of that. This could have been said about Matty Lees a few years ago. He had a spell of yellow and red cards and disciplinary appearances but seems to have channelled his aggression correctly now. Smithies will be the same. It’s a bit of a learning curve.
Barry Badrinath Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: This could have been said about Matty Lees a few years ago. He had a spell of yellow and red cards and disciplinary appearances but seems to have channelled his aggression correctly now. Smithies will be the same. It’s a bit of a learning curve. nah he just gets away with it more, he's also quite easily rattled if you get into him
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