ATLANTISMAN Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Damien said: I'd love to get to some of the wheelchair matches too now. Watching the England v France games has really wetted my appetite for that format of the sport. I agree their skill and determination made one feel humble just amazing:) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I'm beyond excited about the opener. It's great that we should have a 50k crowd and a huge event that doesn't feature the traditional giants. Hopefully England will win but Samoa will show enough to demonstrate to the wider public that these nations are well worth watching. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave T said: I'm beyond excited about the opener. It's great that we should have a 50k crowd and a huge event that doesn't feature the traditional giants. Hopefully England will win but Samoa will show enough to demonstrate to the wider public that these nations are well worth watching. I complete agree. I do think the wider public think these PI nations are worth watching. Everyone knows how good Tonga is and everyone saw the amazing 2017 World Cup semi final for example. It's our administrators that need to show more confidence in the product and their abilities as promoters to sell the event. Keep playing NZ is just a very lazy, and frankly boring, safe option. Edited November 19, 2021 by Damien 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith989 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Damien said: I complete agree. I do think the wider public think these PI nations are worth watching. Everyone knows how good Tonga is and everyone saw the amazing 2017 World Cup semi final for example. It's our administrators that need to show more confidence in the product and their abilities as promoters to sell the event. Keep playing NZ is just a very lazy, and frankly boring, safe option. This is true. The Samoa England opener was my most anticipated game of the year and that goes for both codes. I couldn't wait to see how competitive Samoa were going to be this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 It's probably never been needed before as I'm guessing no one ever contemplated a governing body trying to sabotage the game: Every team competing in the men’s, women’s and wheelchair World Cup have signed legally-binding participation agreements, tournament chief executive Jon Dutton has confirmed. Australia and New Zealand pulled out of the tournament going ahead last year due to Covid concerns. As a result, the World Cup was pushed back a year until 2022. Dutton says the World Cup will definitely go ahead in 2022, with all sides reconciled. In addition, he plans to fly to Australia in the New Year for more talks with NRL clubs who were thought to be behind the withdrawal decision. He said: “We’ve had what I would describe as positive, conciliatory conversations. “They did not want to play this year but they want to play next year. They appreciate how significant this is for international rugby league. “We have 32 legally binding, signed agreements and we didn’t have that before. “The main difference right now is having those levels of execution in place in terms of the agreements. “They’re as legally binding an agreement as any other contract we have. I genuinely believe that everyone, not just Australia and New Zealand, are behind this. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/nations-sign-participation-agreements-for-world-cup/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Damien said: They did not want to play this year but they want to play next year. What a line 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, DavidM said: What a line I know, I genuinely laughed out loud when I read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Damien said: It's probably never been needed before as I'm guessing no one ever contemplated a governing body trying to sabotage the game: Every team competing in the men’s, women’s and wheelchair World Cup have signed legally-binding participation agreements, tournament chief executive Jon Dutton has confirmed. Australia and New Zealand pulled out of the tournament going ahead last year due to Covid concerns. As a result, the World Cup was pushed back a year until 2022. Dutton says the World Cup will definitely go ahead in 2022, with all sides reconciled. In addition, he plans to fly to Australia in the New Year for more talks with NRL clubs who were thought to be behind the withdrawal decision. He said: “We’ve had what I would describe as positive, conciliatory conversations. “They did not want to play this year but they want to play next year. They appreciate how significant this is for international rugby league. “We have 32 legally binding, signed agreements and we didn’t have that before. “The main difference right now is having those levels of execution in place in terms of the agreements. “They’re as legally binding an agreement as any other contract we have. I genuinely believe that everyone, not just Australia and New Zealand, are behind this. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/nations-sign-participation-agreements-for-world-cup/ I hope they're more legally binding than the guarantee of at least 10 million Au$ was last time around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Just noticed the France v Greece game that was going to be a Monday afternoon game during holidays is now an evening game. Will be interesting to see if those Monday night games do well. Opening weekend for me looks like both Newcastle games, meaning I'll miss the Kiwi opener at Warrington, but Scotlands opener takes priority. Edited November 21, 2021 by Dave T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 21 hours ago, Damien said: It's probably never been needed before as I'm guessing no one ever contemplated a governing body trying to sabotage the game: Every team competing in the men’s, women’s and wheelchair World Cup have signed legally-binding participation agreements, tournament chief executive Jon Dutton has confirmed. Australia and New Zealand pulled out of the tournament going ahead last year due to Covid concerns. As a result, the World Cup was pushed back a year until 2022. Dutton says the World Cup will definitely go ahead in 2022, with all sides reconciled. In addition, he plans to fly to Australia in the New Year for more talks with NRL clubs who were thought to be behind the withdrawal decision. He said: “We’ve had what I would describe as positive, conciliatory conversations. “They did not want to play this year but they want to play next year. They appreciate how significant this is for international rugby league. “We have 32 legally binding, signed agreements and we didn’t have that before. “The main difference right now is having those levels of execution in place in terms of the agreements. “They’re as legally binding an agreement as any other contract we have. I genuinely believe that everyone, not just Australia and New Zealand, are behind this. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/nations-sign-participation-agreements-for-world-cup/ Lying sack of xxxx...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) He also said "I can't speak highly enough of those two organisations (NRL and NZRL) in terms of looking forward rather than poring over the past and what's happened." I bet they didn’t want to . It’s hardly worthy of a pat on the back Edited November 21, 2021 by DavidM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 21 hours ago, DavidM said: He also said "I can't speak highly enough of those two organisations (NRL and NZRL) in terms of looking forward rather than poring over the past and what's happened." I bet they didn’t want to . It’s hardly worthy of a pat on the back they probably couldn't remember what excuse they stuck with and why so would be dangerous to even discuss it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Jesus wept. As a sport we don't help ourselves one bit when it comes to our identity: 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Damien said: Jesus wept. As a sport we don't help ourselves one bit when it comes to our identity: Yep, if they had to post this they could have at least said the Rugby Union World Cup... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 No Wales game in Wales. You couldn't make it up. 1 1 1 Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, Wolford6 said: No Wales game in Wales. You couldn't make it up. England are the hosts 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wolford6 said: No Wales game in Wales. You couldn't make it up. I know, no Fiji games in Fiji either....damn this English world cup.... 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The competition could have split the teams into two groups ... The M62 and the A1. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolford6 said: The competition could have split the teams into two groups ... The M62 and the A1. You know who's funding it and why, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Wolford6 said: No Wales game in Wales. You couldn't make it up. Maybe we should let the kiwis & kangaroos play their games in Australia,at least we’d be sure they turn up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Wolford6 said: No Wales game in Wales. You couldn't make it up. I'm sure if the Welsh Government had coughed up some money then there would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 55 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Maybe we should let the kiwis & kangaroos play their games in Australia,at least we’d be sure they turn up. wouldnt put money on it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Joseph Suaalii quoted in the Sydney Morning Herald this morning : Suaalii’s father Chris is from Samoa, and competing at a World Cup alongside Jarome Luai, Brian To’o, Stephen Crichton and Josh Papalii would give the Pacific nation a red-hot chance at the tournament. “My dad [Chris] is full Samoan, he’s a proud Samoan, but hopefully I can play for Samoa [at the Cup],” Suaalii said. “The talent of the Samoans across the NRL is unreal. It would be a special team. I’m a proud Samoan as well.” Throw in a couple of Leilua`s and the rest, should be a hell of an opening match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 There is some serious Samoan talent. I wonder whether they might have a different coach by then, in which case it could be a very dangerous game for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 17 hours ago, The Rocket said: Joseph Suaalii quoted in the Sydney Morning Herald this morning : Suaalii’s father Chris is from Samoa, and competing at a World Cup alongside Jarome Luai, Brian To’o, Stephen Crichton and Josh Papalii would give the Pacific nation a red-hot chance at the tournament. “My dad [Chris] is full Samoan, he’s a proud Samoan, but hopefully I can play for Samoa [at the Cup],” Suaalii said. “The talent of the Samoans across the NRL is unreal. It would be a special team. I’m a proud Samoan as well.” Throw in a couple of Leilua`s and the rest, should be a hell of an opening match. Bad news for England, we need to win the opening game big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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