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Another promising young player lost to the NRL ??

Davo5

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Mark S

Mark S

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Blame the salary cap! Whilst we are obsessed with paying our players the least we can, other leagues and sports are making their players wealthy, whilst giving them security after retirement.

British Rugby League, where everything is a as we like it to be!

Guest

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Nah - the cap needs to remain to help out the failures in the sport. Rewarding underachievement and failure is the way to success.

Big Picture

Big Picture

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1 hour ago, Mark S said:

Blame the salary cap! Whilst we are obsessed with paying our players the least we can, other leagues and sports are making their players wealthy, whilst giving them security after retirement.

British Rugby League, where everything is a as we like it to be!

It's not the salary cap, it's the lack of money in English RL.  The lack of money is why the cap is so ridiculously low, and even at that some SL clubs can't afford to pay it.

The NRL is head and shoulders above SL financially, that's why it pays so much better.  Ditto RU.

Mark S

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39 minutes ago, Scubby said:

A$100,000 (around £60k) is the minimum contract for an NRL 30-man squad player. So many regular first teamers at established SL clubs are below that figure I would guess. The RFL recently (2020) reduced the minimum a SL player could earn to below £15,000.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rfl-defends-decision-lower-minimum-21940219

 

£15K to get your bashed up week in week out and the left on the scrap heap with knackered joints, great.

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10 minutes ago, Mark S said:

£15K to get your bashed up week in week out and the left on the scrap heap with knackered joints, great.

Yeah - but it keeps a level playing field for Wakey and the like.

Davo5

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25 minutes ago, Mark S said:

£15K to get your bashed up week in week out and the left on the scrap heap with knackered joints, great.

Yeap 15k is a pathetically low amount,play in the flagship of Notthern Hemisphere RL & earn less than a part time Lidl checkout worker.

Exiled Wiganer

Exiled Wiganer

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Who is the player? It is a shame and a worry to lose players from our sport to the NRL. The question we should be asking ourselves as a game over here is how much can we afford to pay, not how low can we go to keep the poorer clubs in the league. We have tried to make a salary cap work, but it has become a constraint which guarantees that we cannot keep talent, and thus puts us into a slow slide into oblivion. Ditch it, and let the market decide. 

Davo5

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20 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

Who is the player? It is a shame and a worry to lose players from our sport to the NRL. The question we should be asking ourselves as a game over here is how much can we afford to pay, not how low can we go to keep the poorer clubs in the league. We have tried to make a salary cap work, but it has become a constraint which guarantees that we cannot keep talent, and thus puts us into a slow slide into oblivion. Ditch it, and let the market decide. 

Will Pryce

Dunbar

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Well, if this was a month ago I would have argued that any youngsters going to the NRL are not lost from 'the game' and it would be good to see them develop and would probably be good news for the strength of Rugby League as a whole and the international game in particular. 

Now though, I am not sure I can say that with real conviction. 

"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris

Scubby

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Just now, Dunbar said:

Now though, I am not sure I can say that with real conviction. 

Don't think that's a requirement any more? Maybe wrong.

The Frying Scotsman

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The NRL is rapidly becoming the only viable professional Rugby League competition in the world.

SuperLeague is being forced to fill up with more and more substandard players, with there now being very few "bums on seats" stars who the public will turn up to see. 

That's OK.... if you want the game to be watched by people in Wigan, Hull, but virtually nowhere else. The fanbase will never grow if they are forced to watch the level of player currently in the League. 

David Dockhouse Host

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2 hours ago, Mark S said:

£15K to get your bashed up week in week out and the left on the scrap heap with knackered joints, great.

We say we don't have enough players for SL, I say we do, but lose so many to other jobs, this is one reason 

JM2010

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I don't have a problem with British players going to the NRL. At least it's not RU. If we end up with 15 - 20 players over there and can also produce more players for SL then that will help strengthen England. (I know we're all moaning at the moment but hopefully the WC and other Internationals will be back on from next year).

Maybe the NRL can be convinced to invest in junior devlopment over here and create pathways for young aspiring RL players

 

unapologetic pedant

unapologetic pedant

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4 hours ago, Mark S said:

Blame the salary cap! Whilst we are obsessed with paying our players the least we can, other leagues and sports are making their players wealthy, whilst giving them security after retirement.

British Rugby League, where everything is a as we like it to be!

If only our clubs today were free to spend what they don`t have. Owners could borrow the money, bankrupt the club, then decamp to let some other mug pick up the pieces. This could be a regular exciting theme, were it not for the onerous restrictions of the salary cap.

They could maybe start signing some awe-inspiring RU stars like in the good old days. All those sound investments, made over decades, were the basis for the success we`re currently enjoying. What a state English RL would be in if our pro clubs had instead frittered away their resources on frivolities like junior clubs, schools, better facilities.

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I bet loads of RL fans would be up for someone coming into their workplace and telling them they were getting a wage cut to £15k to help out the competition.

Exiled Wiganer

Exiled Wiganer

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1 hour ago, Davo5 said:

Will Pryce

Thanks. It is a tragedy for him to be lost to the game, particularly when developed by a club whose owner has deep pockets and could pay more. He looked really promising. Maybe he will return once he gets bored of years of zero COVID lockdowns. 

whatmichaelsays

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4 hours ago, Scubby said:

The RFL recently (2020) reduced the minimum a SL player could earn to below £15,000.

In other words, the RFL is saying that the minimum an SL player can earn is more or less the national minimum wage. How generous of them. 

"Now, go and warm-up in these State of Mind t-shirts so we can show people how seriously we take player welfare". 

whatmichaelsays

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32 minutes ago, unapologetic pedant said:

If only our clubs today were free to spend what they don`t have. Owners could borrow the money, bankrupt the club, then decamp to let some other mug pick up the pieces. This could be a regular exciting theme, were it not for the onerous restrictions of the salary cap.

They could maybe start signing some awe-inspiring RU stars like in the good old days. All those sound investments, made over decades, were the basis for the success we`re currently enjoying. What a state English RL would be in if our pro clubs had instead frittered away their resources on frivolities like junior clubs, schools, better facilities.

Or it could be a situation somewhere between the two binary extremes of "pay our players poverty wages" and "bankrupt clubs by borrowing money to pay for magic beans". 

If the salary cap is the thing that's keeping club ownership from financial armageddon, then we really ought to stop bothering. 

The players shouldn't be the ones that end up subsidising the pitiful commercial performance of the clubs and their ownerships. 

Futtocks

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He's at the right time in his life for an adventure; young enough not to be too tied down with the various responsibilities that come later.

And if he shows signs of making the move to Australia permanent, his dad will remind him of the innate superiority of Blackpool beach over Bondi.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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