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Just now, Chris Taylor said:

But you are happy to say negative comments about Featherstone and the local region, who have supporters that could be Scottish or Jamaican. Not forgetting that a current player is a Scottish international.  

Featherstone is a great little ground. But the reality is that Fev is a tiny village with a population of 15k, and the ground holds <7k. My comments are not intended to be negative, but just highlighting the reality of the situation.

As another poster has pointed out, Jamaica's game against England Knights got more that 7k with minimal promotion, so why on earth would you choose to play in a smaller ground? Plus, plenty of clubs can boast Scottish or Jamaican internationals, so I fail to see why this is relevant.

Do you genuinely believe that Fev is the best place play to this sort of fixture? And if the rumour is true, do you think that the RFL (or whoever has organised it) genuinely believes it's the best place to play, or is this decision just being made on the basis of convenience?

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2 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

Featherstone is a great little ground. But the reality is that Fev is a tiny village with a population of 15k, and the ground holds <7k. My comments are not intended to be negative, but just highlighting the reality of the situation.

As another poster has pointed out, Jamaica's game against England Knights got more that 7k with minimal promotion, so why on earth would you choose to play in a smaller ground? Plus, plenty of clubs can boast Scottish or Jamaican internationals, so I fail to see why this is relevant.

Do you genuinely believe that Fev is the best place play to this sort of fixture? And if the rumour is true, do you think that the RFL (or whoever has organised it) genuinely believes it's the best place to play, or is this decision just being made on the basis of convenience?

So where do you suggest ?

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4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

So where do you suggest ?

Did you not read my previous answer to this question or did you choose to ignore it? I'll paste it again for you here:

28 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

I'm not sure they should play it. If the powers-that-be are going to treat it as an afterthought and provide insufficient resources to create a meaningful event that will be attractive to both spectators and players, then they shouldn't bother. 

It isn't a case of picking a ground and saying "it would be good there - they've got a train station nearby and should get at least 5k through the gates". They need to do some market research, put a meaningful long term calendar together and put games out to tender to see which towns and cities want to host. Not throw something together at the last minute based off the back of a fag packet.

What is the point of these games? Is it to just tick a box to say they've played some? If they're played in uninspiring stadiums with minimal effort going in to the promotion and the wider 'event' side of things, then I fail to see how they're going to prompt the players to make themselves eligible to play, or to make the event attractive to spectators. What good is that going to do ahead of next year's World Cup?

 

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1 minute ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

Featherstone is a great little ground. But the reality is that Fev is a tiny village with a population of 15k, and the ground holds <7k. My comments are not intended to be negative, but just highlighting the reality of the situation.

As another poster has pointed out, Jamaica's game against England Knights got more that 7k with minimal promotion, so why on earth would you choose to play in a smaller ground? Plus, plenty of clubs can boast Scottish or Jamaican internationals, so I fail to see why this is relevant.

Do you genuinely believe that Fev is the best place play to this sort of fixture? And if the rumour is true, do you think that the RFL (or whoever has organised it) genuinely believes it's the best place to play, or is this decision just being made on the basis of convenience?

Ugh, the old chestnut of Featherstone being a tiny village is so boring and tiresome. 

Maybe the reality of the situation is Featherstone regularly hosts Rugby matches for the community, has the right facilities for this type of fixture and maybe would get a full house - which would look good on TV (if on tv). 

No idea if it's the best as I don't know what venues are available.

I don't think Ashton Goulding, Dale Ferguson, Danny Addy, Callum Mcelland would have any problems playing there. 

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9 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

Did you not read my previous answer to this question or did you choose to ignore it? I'll paste it again for you here:

 

Yes I did , blind criticism is easy , so again , where do you suggest ? , Jamaica perhaps ? , Glasgow maybe ? , How about Leigh , 4 times the size of Fev with a superior stadium ? 

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6 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

It may be tiresome, but unfortunately it is the reality of the situation.

I let you into a secret, not everybody who supports Featherstone lives in Featherstone. 

So a meaningful event that you talk about, ideally where would you play?

 

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2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Yes I did , blind criticism is easy , so again , where do you suggest ? , Jamaica perhaps ? , Glasgow maybe ? , How about Leigh , 4 times the size of Fev with a superior stadium ? 

Yep. I'd go for Leigh. There's a really good pub down the road from the stadium and the fans will be able to get the number 54 bus. I'm surprised they haven't booked the Grand Final there to be honest.

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3 minutes ago, M j M said:

The cultural cringe some people have about the towns, villages and cities that gave birth to and nurtured Rugby League never ceases to amaze.

You're right - I take it all back. Fev is without doubt the best play to an international and create an 'event'. The takings from the corporate sales alone will be enormous.

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21 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

See my previous response earlier.

"They need to do some market research, put a meaningful long term calendar together and put games out to tender to see which towns and cities want to host. Not throw something together at the last minute based off the back of a fag packet."

I don't disagree, but you have 2 - 3 months to organise such event, this is pretty much impossible to do - let's just call it off cos Featherstone is dump. 

"I take it all back. Fev is without doubt the best play to an international and create an 'event'. The takings from the corporate sales alone will be enormous."

Seeing as the club own the stadium, you'd get much more of a return than a vast majority of the clubs in the game. There's lots of space for marquees / fan zones around the stadium - oh and a good sized clubhouse. 

 

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1 hour ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

You're right - I take it all back. Fev is without doubt the best play to an international and create an 'event'. The takings from the corporate sales alone will be enormous.

You are totally wasting your time arguing with people who think that because a RL game is taking place with country X & Y involved, X & Y fans will roll up en masse. TGG and all that

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1 hour ago, Chris Taylor said:

"They need to do some market research, put a meaningful long term calendar together and put games out to tender to see which towns and cities want to host. Not throw something together at the last minute based off the back of a fag packet."

I don't disagree, but you have 2 - 3 months to organise such event, this is pretty much impossible to do - let's just call it off cos Featherstone is dump. 

"I take it all back. Fev is without doubt the best play to an international and create an 'event'. The takings from the corporate sales alone will be enormous."

Seeing as the club own the stadium, you'd get much more of a return than a vast majority of the clubs in the game. There's lots of space for marquees / fan zones around the stadium - oh and a good sized clubhouse. 

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Featherstone, my mate Ian P lives there. But.

Do you honestly, but honestly, except any Jamaican or Scottish diaspora, in or near Fev, to be either aware of the game or actually even likely to go if it does happen? (Assuming it does) 

Its random beyond belief.

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20 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

Do you honestly, but honestly, except any Jamaican or Scottish diaspora, in or near Fev, to be either aware of the game or actually even likely to go if it does happen? (Assuming it does) 

Its random beyond belief.

Well this is all dependant on how much promotion the event is given.

The game itself should be a very close encounter IMO, with some very good players on show I believe the appetite for Jamaican RL is getting stronger and probably has a bigger brand than Scotland RL. 

If you can get anywhere between 5 - 7k for this game than I would personally deem it a success.

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23 minutes ago, Chris Taylor said:

Well this is all dependant on how much promotion the event is given.

The game itself should be a very close encounter IMO, with some very good players on show I believe the appetite for Jamaican RL is getting stronger and probably has a bigger brand than Scotland RL. 

If you can get anywhere between 5 - 7k for this game than I would personally deem it a success.

England knights v Jamaica got a respectable crowd at headingley. 

If Jamaica v Scotland at Fev (regardless of whether it is a brilliant game) gets 5-7k, then I will personally send you 56p via PayPal.

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4 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

No it wouldnt.  It would be worse because there is still zero incentive for anyone not playing england to bother. 

So unless they play England every year the rest don’t bother? Weird take.

I am all for full Euro Cup featuring England going forward but England aren’t going to be able or willing to play all of France, Wales, Ireland, Scotland & Jamaica every year unfortunately. I do think they should be playing France & at least one of the others annually to help develop local competition.

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23 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

England knights v Jamaica got a respectable crowd at headingley. 

If Jamaica v Scotland at Fev (regardless of whether it is a brilliant game) gets 5-7k, then I will personally send you 56p via PayPal.

Here's hoping! 😄

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I dont think Fev is the best place to play that fixture, but just to clear something up for those taking pot shots at the place, it's a town not a village. At least make your insults accurate.

It should probably be at Wembley, large Jamaican and Scottish populations in London, big stadium for this marquee friendly, organized last minute. Probably fill it.

Maybe Headingley wasnt available or too expensive and Fev is one of the closest decent stadiums to Leeds, unless of course it gets played at Belle Vue or Wheldon Road. Organizing tin pot games at short notice is never going to be ideal is it. Notions that we can make a last minute friendly between two fake international teams an 'event' is peak forum banter.

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4 hours ago, Tex Evans Thigh said:

I dont think Fev is the best place to play that fixture, but just to clear something up for those taking pot shots at the place, it's a town not a village. At least make your insults accurate.

It should probably be at Wembley, large Jamaican and Scottish populations in London, big stadium for this marquee friendly, organized last minute. Probably fill it.

Maybe Headingley wasnt available or too expensive and Fev is one of the closest decent stadiums to Leeds, unless of course it gets played at Belle Vue or Wheldon Road. Organizing tin pot games at short notice is never going to be ideal is it. Notions that we can make a last minute friendly between two fake international teams an 'event' is peak forum banter.

Jamaica isn't a 'fake' international team.

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1 hour ago, nadera78 said:

Jamaica isn't a 'fake' international team.

Jamaica are a genuine team, they even have a domestic league and every player will qualify for them under virtually the International qualification rules as every other sport uses. 

Why do so called Rugby League fans try to talk down and rubbish an International fixture as soon as it’s announced. Sad really, it’s like they don’t want the sport to be successful. 

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5 hours ago, Tex Evans Thigh said:

I dont think Fev is the best place to play that fixture, but just to clear something up for those taking pot shots at the place, it's a town not a village. At least make your insults accurate.

You're correct. Just checked online and Featherstone is classed as a town and not a village. This new information therefore obviously invalidates every point I made. 

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