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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

If as you most obviously think MK is a great person as well as being a great player why would the TO club and specifically the coach want to see the back of him, I think there is much more to this than has been made public.

TRL piece 6th Feb indicated TO were Kheirallah announced he was expected to leave.

Kheirallah said he was ready to play on Feb 8th on his Instagram.

This is what the TO President had to say in La Depeche. Feb 10.


Mark Kheirallah's case is trickier.  "It's more complicated" conceded Thursday, February 10, President Bernard Sarrazain in the columns of La Dépêche du Midi.  "We had a problem, he cheated with us."  reveals the strong man of the TO.  Indeed, Mark Kheirallah would have obtained a fake vaccination pass and would have tried to use it with his leaders.  "We tried to explain to him that we could forgive him in relation to his approach", continues Bernard Sarrazain, "but he refuses to be vaccinated. He also refuses to sign the repentance that he was offered and which was mandatory  , by law. We are still in a conflict situation with him. But that will be resolved in the coming days."

 Mark Kheirallah's attitude would have greatly displeased internally, especially coach Sylvain Houlès.

 For this historic first Super League match, the club will also have to deal without Mathieu Jussaume, injured in the preparation match against the Catalans Dragons, lost 26-10 by the Toulouse team on January 26th.

 

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3 hours ago, David Shepherd said:

Some, like forcing a medical procedure on someone or they'll lose their job are quite obviously wrong.  I'm still struggling to believe that this was even considered in alleged liberal democracies, let alone actually enacted.

He fraudulently received documents, which under French law is a criminal offence. Maybe that is another unjust rule that we should all refuse to accept too ? 

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11 minutes ago, kiggy said:

He fraudulently received documents, which under French law is a criminal offence. Maybe that is another unjust rule that we should all refuse to accept too ? 

So Fev could be harbouring a criminal?

They won't be the first or the last English club offering refuge to a foriegn national, but seriously whatever the club decide to do as far as player recriutment is concerhed is up to them, I am sure they will have to have had the signing condoned by the RFL.

 

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7 hours ago, David Shepherd said:

Some, like forcing a medical procedure on someone or they'll lose their job are quite obviously wrong.  I'm still struggling to believe that this was even considered in alleged liberal democracies, let alone actually enacted.

If I refused a hep b jab, my contract with the NHS goes down the Gary glitter dave. It happens. There's reasons these laws were put in place and debated many many times over on the politics forum.

The player broke contractual rules as well as the law in France. He has his reasons as to why which really don't interest me and are probably best debated elsewhere on TRL.

MK is a good full back. Proven at this level. How his inclusion in the team is recieved by fans, players and coaches alike, will be played out soon enough.

But let's keep it real. He didn't come out of all this very well. Maybe that doesn't concern him?

C'est la vie ..... as they say in Rovrum 

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43 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

So Fev could be harbouring a criminal?

They won't be the first or the last English club offering refuge to a foriegn national, but seriously whatever the club decide to do as far as player recriutment is concerhed is up to them, I am sure they will have to have had the signing condoned by the RFL.

Instinctively you'd think "stay well clear" wouldn't you H? I doubt he will be at the club if they get to Super League anyway

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5 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Instinctively you'd think "stay well clear" wouldn't you H? I doubt he will be at the club if they get to Super League anyway

Hmmmm.

He's a class player. Whether he flouted French law won't change that and would get in any championship team.

Agree with you re super league.

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23 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Hmmmm.

He's a class player. Whether he flouted French law won't change that and would get in any championship team.

Agree with you re super league.

Yeah its just baggage isn't it though, wouldn't be a good character reference. Fair enough if he has come cheap.

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6 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Yeah its just baggage isn't it though, wouldn't be a good character reference. Fair enough if he has come cheap.

There's a lot of baggage in RL. Taking on someone after two years out suspended for drugs is baggage.... neither is good on the cv....but they contributed well.

Warney wasn't squeaky clean was he. Wish he'd have been English.

I can separate the two.

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4 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

If I refused a hep b jab, my contract with the NHS goes down the Gary glitter dave. It happens. There's reasons these laws were put in place and debated many many times over on the politics forum.

The player broke contractual rules as well as the law in France. He has his reasons as to why which really don't interest me and are probably best debated elsewhere on TRL.

MK is a good full back. Proven at this level. How his inclusion in the team is recieved by fans, players and coaches alike, will be played out soon enough.

But let's keep it real. He didn't come out of all this very well. Maybe that doesn't concern him?

C'est la vie ..... as they say in Rovrum 

I get that Robin.

My reason for being so against a mandate for this disease is that the rationale melted away fairly quickly when it became blindingly obvious to everyone except those around the world that were pushing mandates, that the vaccine does not stop anyone catching the disease.

And I say this as someone who happily got jabbed.

 

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57 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

I get that Robin.

My reason for being so against a mandate for this disease is that the rationale melted away fairly quickly when it became blindingly obvious to everyone except those around the world that were pushing mandates, that the vaccine does not stop anyone catching the disease.

And I say this as someone who happily got jabbed.

 

I am not sure what you mean. As an NHS worker, I can say the vaccines create antibodies that protect against Covid. 

Regardless, as people are pointing out, he can't select which laws he wants to obey. 

Regarding his ability, from what I saw in the International against England he struggles under the high ball. 

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1 hour ago, David Shepherd said:

I get that Robin.

My reason for being so against a mandate for this disease is that the rationale melted away fairly quickly when it became blindingly obvious to everyone except those around the world that were pushing mandates, that the vaccine does not stop anyone catching the disease.

And I say this as someone who happily got jabbed.

 

Really, where is the proof of this blindingly obvious thing?

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Clearly, this should be on the politics sub forum, but since the discussion is carrying on here, this is from the NHS:

Research has shown the vaccines help:

reduce your risk of getting seriously ill or dying from COVID-19

reduce your risk of catching or spreading COVID-19

protect against COVID-19 variants

Hope that helps any non-believers

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"Stay away from negative people. They have a problem for every solution."

Albert Einstein   (Fat chance on THIS forum)

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9 hours ago, Lowdesert said:

TRL piece 6th Feb indicated TO were Kheirallah announced he was expected to leave.

Kheirallah said he was ready to play on Feb 8th on his Instagram.

This is what the TO President had to say in La Depeche. Feb 10.


Mark Kheirallah's case is trickier.  "It's more complicated" conceded Thursday, February 10, President Bernard Sarrazain in the columns of La Dépêche du Midi.  "We had a problem, he cheated with us."  reveals the strong man of the TO.  Indeed, Mark Kheirallah would have obtained a fake vaccination pass and would have tried to use it with his leaders.  "We tried to explain to him that we could forgive him in relation to his approach", continues Bernard Sarrazain, "but he refuses to be vaccinated. He also refuses to sign the repentance that he was offered and which was mandatory  , by law. We are still in a conflict situation with him. But that will be resolved in the coming days."

 Mark Kheirallah's attitude would have greatly displeased internally, especially coach Sylvain Houlès.

 For this historic first Super League match, the club will also have to deal without Mathieu Jussaume, injured in the preparation match against the Catalans Dragons, lost 26-10 by the Toulouse team on January 26th.

 

It's a bit tricky to make sense of that translation, but my sense is that he, ultimately, was sacked because he refused to be vaccinated. The club sound to have been willing to forgive the fake pass, but his unwillingness to get the jab soured trust.

That's the way I read it. I may be wrong.

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 Its Derek Beaumonts Fault that Kheirallah isn't Vaccinated !! 🤣

Joking apart, Class signing for the Championship. I must say though that he would be distinctly average for SL though as would Jonathan Ford.

Well done Fev.

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14 hours ago, StandOffHalf said:

It's a bit tricky to make sense of that translation, but my sense is that he, ultimately, was sacked because he refused to be vaccinated. The club sound to have been willing to forgive the fake pass, but his unwillingness to get the jab soured trust.

That's the way I read it. I may be wrong.

He broke the French Law that professional sportspersons had to be double jabbed.  
 

He messed it up for himself and his team mates.

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1 hour ago, The Future is League said:

Possibly thinks he hasn't the ability to play at super league level

Tbf he wanted to stay at Toulouse, and appears to have attempted to fraudulently produced documents to do so...

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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

Tbf he wanted to stay at Toulouse, and appears to have attempted to fraudulently produced documents to do so...

Pretty much.... and now he's at Fev.

As much as I'm excited to have another class full back join us, there is a part of me that's wazzin me sen about the irony of a Toulousienne rocking up station lane!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

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5 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

Johnny Ford to leigh

They might has well bring me out of retirement !!!   He has never really rocked my boat, but you don't get many 8 ft Stand Offs do you ? 🤣

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13 hours ago, Lowdesert said:

He broke the French Law that professional sportspersons had to be double jabbed.  
 

He messed it up for himself and his team mates.

In not being vaxxed he didn't break the law in France. It just meant that he couldn't play for as long as the measures were in place.

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