D-Day England release new kit! (Needs it's very own thread)

[Billy King's Boots]

11 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

I doubt you’ll look out of place at matches wearing last years shirts.

Agreed on that too - though I have about a dozen different England RL shirts to choose from, so might dig a few classics out.

[Tommygilf]

Do all England football fans worry about Tottenham or Leeds for the home shirt? Or Man U or Liverpool for Red away kits?

A red and white hooped design would have "dared to be different" whilst also showing massive appreciation to heritage, both in just Rugby League and pre-1895 (something we do precious little of). Who cares if it looks like a Wigan shirt? Its England!

The justification is abysmal and is indicative of the leadership over the past decade that sees the game where it is now.

[Leyther_Matt]

A red V with a blue trim would, for me at least, provide the right balance between not being a Saints top*, would offer the red and white branding that we've spent years trying to build around the England side (something I've quite liked compared to football and cricket) and would be a subtle nod to GB without necessarily going all out on a full red & blue chevron.

*Regardless of how petty and parochial it sounds, I do think it is a genuine concern that folk wouldn't buy a top based on that front, and if nothing else is quite indicative of any number of areas of RL, but in particular that our club branding is so much stronger than internationally

[Dave T]

Somebody posted this on twitter

I know the red is not the right shade, but it doesn't look like a Saints shirt to me. 

[Tommygilf]

3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Somebody posted this on twitter

I know the red is not the right shade, but it doesn't look like a Saints shirt to me. 

Oh Dave are you coming round?

[The Hallucinating Goose]

3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Somebody posted this on twitter

I know the red is not the right shade, but it doesn't look like a Saints shirt to me. 

Looks a lot better that and just like the away one they are gonna bring out in a couple of weeks. I would never mistake that for a Saints shirt. 

[Dave T]

Just now, Tommygilf said:

Oh Dave are you coming round?

My position is quite simple - I like the kit. 

[Chrispmartha]

13 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

A red V with a blue trim would, for me at least, provide the right balance between not being a Saints top*, would offer the red and white branding that we've spent years trying to build around the England side (something I've quite liked compared to football and cricket) and would be a subtle nod to GB without necessarily going all out on a full red & blue chevron.

*Regardless of how petty and parochial it sounds, I do think it is a genuine concern that folk wouldn't buy a top based on that front, and if nothing else is quite indicative of any number of areas of RL, but in particular that our club branding is so much stronger than internationally

I posted this yesterday, I still don't overly like the design but at least it has red in it and it represents the GB element they have given as an excuse better

[Davo5]

38 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Do all England football fans worry about Tottenham or Leeds for the home shirt? Or Man U or Liverpool for Red away kits?

A red and white hooped design would have "dared to be different" whilst also showing massive appreciation to heritage, both in just Rugby League and pre-1895 (something we do precious little of). Who cares if it looks like a Wigan shirt? Its England!

The justification is abysmal and is indicative of the leadership over the past decade that sees the game where it is now.

Didn’t we have a 9s shirt with thin red hoops on white that looked nothing like a Wigan/Leigh shirt ?

Red chevron or hoop surely we can come up with something that doesn’t necessarily look like a club side.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Davo5

[Tommygilf]

23 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

I posted this yesterday, I still don't overly like the design but at least it has red in it and it represents the GB element they have given as an excuse better

USA USA USA

[Davo5]

33 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Somebody posted this on twitter

I know the red is not the right shade, but it doesn't look like a Saints shirt to me. 

Get rid of one of the chevrons either the solid one or the other & it would be pretty good

[Tommygilf]

4 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

Didn’t we have a 9s shirt with thin red hoops on white that looked nothing like a Wigan/Leigh shirt ?

Red chevron or hoop surely we can come up with something that doesn’t necessarily look like a club side.

To me its no issue if England play in White with Red V or Red Hoops. 

[DI Keith Fowler]

4 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

Didn’t we have a 9s shirt with thin red hoops on white that looked nothing like a Wigan/Leigh shirt ?

Red chevron or hoop surely we can come up with something that doesn’t necessarily look like a club side.

We had this, thin stripes of red and blue. As I said in a post yesterday you can do a direct link back to the original Northern Union jersey with this whilst also matching contemporary English sporting teams colours. It doesn't look like any clubs shirts and you can do a myriad of variations on it (the below would be the "modern" one in the cycle, the next year do unbroken solid lines and an older style collar and you've got the "traditional" option). 

[Davo5]

1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

To me its no issue if England play in White with Red V or Red Hoops. 

I’d be happy with either as long it was a good design.

[The One]

I still don’t mind it as much as others here. I won’t be buying it though. Red between the little v’s looks better like this.

Edited July 28, 2022 by The One

[nadera78]

On 27/07/2022 at 10:21, DI Keith Fowler said:

Argh knew it was going to go this way. It's just another kneejerk movement into a another direction that will be quietly dropped in a years time. It's not even an objectively bad shirt, it's fine, it's just so inconsistent with what's come before. 

Just decide what an England shirt looks like, decide on a fairly classic design and combination of colours and then don't change it... ever. You can do variations on it, modern, traditional etc. by all means but keep the outline design the same. 

The England shirt is always something defined by what it isn't rather than what it is. It can't be red and white hoops because Wigan, it can't be a rev vee because Saints, it can't be a blue and red vee because GB.

I've said on here previously the most logical thing to do would be to return to the thin hoops of the original Northern Union shirt, probably swapping the yellow out for blue (to more match a typical England sporting team colour scheme and also a nod to the Lancashire and Yorkshire origins of the game). Then you've got something with a historical link back, that you can do lots of variations of, that other RL teams haven't made untouchable. 

Where did you get that shirt from? I always thought the original NU shirt was red and white hoops (as worn in the replica used for the 2010 centenary test v New Zealand).

You could probably do something with that colour combination - eg white shirt with a thick red and thin yellow chevrons - that would be distinctively ours and at the same time remove the "it looks like X club shirt" complaint.

[Chrispmartha]

9 minutes ago, The One said:

I still don’t mind it as much as others here. I won’t be buying it though. Red between the little v’s looks better like this.

Yeah even that's better I think part of the issue is there's just too much blue... anyway I've spent far too much time talking about a shirt Im not going to buy.

[The One]

1 minute ago, Chrispmartha said:

Yeah even that's better I think part of the issue is there's just too much blue... anyway I've spent far too much time talking about a shirt Im not going to buy.

That with a white collar would be good.

[Chrispmartha]

9 minutes ago, The One said:

That with a white collar would be good.

[Dunbar]

This thread reminds me of my 8 year old daughter arguing with her friends about their favourite colours.

[Dave T]

4 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

This thread reminds me of my 8 year old daughter arguing with her friends about their favourite colours.

Well? 

Team Red, or blue? 

[Dunbar]

Just now, Dave T said:

Well? 

Team Red, or blue? 

She loves blue.

[Davo5]

27 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

This thread reminds me of my 8 year old daughter arguing with her friends about their favourite colours.

Can they design RL kits ?

[Spidey]

Some interesting thoughts here. Plus a reason given for so many training tops being released. So maybe some method in the madness?

[Wellsy4HullFC]

1 hour ago, Chrispmartha said:

Yeah even that's better I think part of the issue is there's just too much blue... anyway I've spent far too much time talking about a shirt Im not going to buy.

What would it look like if you swapped the red and blue? Now that someone has mentioned USA, I can't un-see it and think thinner blue would stop that!