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5 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

Yes but not the bar which is the point. I am sure Batley have done fine for money in the playoffs now. Derek will give them the tickets on Sunday plus second place central funding plus half fev money.

Cant think of a club who deserves it more.

Not sure what your thinking is there. If that bar revenue has been increased by giving away 1500 free tickets (and this is unconfirmed, I accept), Batley need to be recompensed.

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1 hour ago, Mumby Magic said:

Then we'll change it back after a year or so when it doesn't work. It's not restructuring dramatically that we need.

In any case, I'm the source of the rumour, and as reliable as any other.đź‘Ť

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14 minutes ago, Griff said:

Not sure what your thinking is there. If that bar revenue has been increased by giving away 1500 free tickets (and this is unconfirmed, I accept), Batley need to be recompensed.

Why do they? finish above barrow and they would’ve got the home playoff. Rather 3000 plus and transform some of those into future punters or people who wouldn’t have come but have now put thousands back into the sport.

 

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Details of this meeting have been mentioned on the TalkSPORT bulletins this morning where they say proposals for 2 tens and a 14 team division is being discussed. Doesn’t really say whether that is a 14 team division next year then 2 tens or any other combination.

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1 minute ago, Cheadle Leyther said:

Details of this meeting have been mentioned on the TalkSPORT bulletins this morning where they say proposals for 2 tens and a 14 team division is being discussed. Doesn’t really say whether that is a 14 team division next year then 2 tens or any other combination.

Nothing applies for next year. It’s all for 2024 onwards whatever it is.

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36 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

Why do they? finish above barrow and they would’ve got the home playoff. Rather 3000 plus and transform some of those into future punters or people who wouldn’t have come but have now put thousands back into the sport.

 

Why do they ?   Because them's the rules.

Let them give their free tickets out at a home game where they keep all the gate take.  Batley shouldn't pay for Barrow's sales promotions.

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36 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

 

Interesting choice of date for this!

Typical RL double header.

Both announcements in Manchester within 2 hours of each other.

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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Typical RL double header.

Both announcements in Manchester within 2 hours of each other.

To be honest I think it's intentional so that journos can move from one event to the other. If there's national media around for the WC they may as well cover the IMG launch.

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2 hours ago, Griff said:

No club should be handing out free tickets for a shared gate game without the opposition's agreement. There are some fairly strict rules, including limits on how many tickets are available to directors. All publicly available on the RFL website for those sufficiently interested.

Yep. Even admission prices have to be agreed between the 2 clubs 

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48 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

 

Interesting choice of date for this!

It's absolutely stupid and it's hard to believe it's a coincidence. A good day to bury bad news and all that.

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Just now, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Yep. Even admission prices have to be agreed between the 2 clubs 

Agreed, Les.

To be fair, this is all based on supposition and I don't intend to delve into the Barrow-Batley game any further.  For all we know, Batley may have agreed a deal with Barrow.

But, as I said to Harry a couple of days ago, I'm very much against folk changing the rules.  Especially unilaterally.

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3 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

I guess by actually having their own ground they make more money on the revenue generated than on the tickets. Its a problem many clubs have that by getting nothing from the bar it means they jack ticket prices so no new fans.

Do you not understand that rules have to be followed? 

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3 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said:

To be honest I think it's intentional so that journos can move from one event to the other. If there's national media around for the WC they may as well cover the IMG launch.

Yes, I'm sure it's on purpose. I just thought I'd make some whimsy out of it.

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1 minute ago, Damien said:

It's absolutely stupid and it's hard to believe it's a coincidence.

As Keith said a couple of posts earlier, it is probably neither a coincidence nor stupid.

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From  The St Albans & Harpenden Review, a local paper that never reports on anything rugby league related, included their own home town club - 

"An expanded, 14-team top flight or a two-tiered Super League of 20 teams are the rumoured conclusions, and a potentially contentious licensing model and the consequent scrapping of promotion and relegation."

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2 minutes ago, Griff said:

Agreed, Les.

To be fair, this is all based on supposition and I don't intend to delve into the Barrow-Batley game any further.  For all we know, Batley may have agreed a deal with Barrow.

But, as I said to Harry a couple of days ago, I'm very much against folk changing the rules.  Especially unilaterally.

They'd also need approval from the RFL as (you pointed out earlier) that many free tickets would go against the Op Rules

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2x10, 3 games against everyone in your league each season, is probably the only way Promotion and Relegation can be sustained to and from top flight RL right now. 20 licences, with possible increases in that number going forwards. 

Part time clubs totally separate from FT save for Cups, just as amateurs are from the professional game.

That's the only way I see 2x10 going, otherwise the cost of being relegated from the 2nd 10 would be more than getting relegated now.

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6 minutes ago, Exiled Townie said:

From  The St Albans & Harpenden Review, a local paper that never reports on anything rugby league related, included their own home town club - 

"An expanded, 14-team top flight or a two-tiered Super League of 20 teams are the rumoured conclusions, and a potentially contentious licensing model and the consequent scrapping of promotion and relegation."

Here

I wouldn't be surprised if a 14 team SL was strongly pushed by fans in the fan survey and that many gave 2 x 10s the thumbs down. Im also certain 2 x 10s is what is being pushed by the RFL and clubs and that is why it continues to linger.

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Just now, Liverpool Rover said:

Where will the money come from to fund 20 teams? A 14 team top flight seems more likely.

Quite, and I don't hesitate to say I agree with you completely on that.

But whether there is the appetite and the numbers for it within the voting members today is another matter. 

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