NRL new $1.7 billion TV deal with Fox Sports for 2018-2022

[bamfordsbeans]

When did the salary cap last increase?

The least should be inflationary increases.

[leagueman123]

Their Salary Cap will raise from roughly £3.3m to £5.2...........Obviously this is great news for the NRL and hopefully they will have more capacity to promote and grow the game internationally.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-04/every-nrl-game-live-in-new-tv-deal/6670190

 

But do we think that this will be good for British rugby league or simply leave us further behind?

 

Done a quick google and when you compare the salary caps it's quite scary.

 

NRL £5.2m from 2018 (currently £3.3m)

 

Aviva Premiership (English Rugby Union) £5.5m

 

Top 14 (French Rugby Union) £7m

 

Superleague £1.8m

I think the devil is on the detail with this news articles. They say it's up to $1.7 billion so might actually be the full amount. Anyway thats getting away from the point that it's hugely positive for league in Oz. I feel thus additional money will simply fuel more GB players to leave these shores for Australia. The NRL will be like the premier league while SL is the championship or league 1 because of the massive gulf in money.

Take those RU amounts from Eng & Fra with a pinch of salt, from what I've read they've both signed new big TV deals this year which will further increase their salary caps. Besides the Irish teams pay their players under the table from rich businessmen, not sure how they get away with it!

[marklaspalmas]

The Aussies got an 800 million quid five year TV deal?? Struth.

[OMEGA]

We might need to worry but I think the ARU will be shytting themselves, they're already so far on the back foot they're in danger of sitting down

[OMEGA]

I've always wondered why many of our clubs haven't set up leagues clubs in their home towns. Okay they're never going to be on the scale of some of the top ones in Aus like Canterbury but even much smaller ones with things like a bar, restraunt & gym could turn a decent profit.

During Wakefield Trinitys heyday they owned a number of properties around the city, one of which was the World famous Wakefield a Theatre Club which later became the Super Bowl. Many top line acts played the WTC including the late Cilla Black, Shirley Bassey, Roy Orbison and Tom Jones.

It was a real money spinner for the Rugby League club but times changed and Theatre Clubs struggled, the rest is history!

[Farmduck]

You are correct. It is also unsigned, which makes me doubt it even more.

From that article:

 

Phil Rothfield analyses all 16 NRL clubs’ financial security ahead of season 2015. Source: News Corp Australia

 

Sounds to me like it was by Phil Rothfield.

 

The original article about the $1.7bill was also by Phil Rothfield.

 

[DoubleD]

The English RU new deal was all smoke and mirrors so I wouldn't pay too much attention to the claims of big increases in revenue.

The Super league salary cap may only be 1.8 million but there are so many loopholes in it covering academy players, marquee players, other commercial revenue generated from clubs as a proportion to wages, which in effect means the salary cap is much higher than that

[kiwis 13 6]

Next tv deal for super league/ euro league needs a terrestrial tv uk wide coverage element say one game per week on bbc etc, needs french element at least 2 sides maybe 3 side with French tv deal, french sides can only be replaced by other french sides english sides only replaced by english sides. Make promotion relegation subject to basic requirements of decent facilities, sponsors/funding and junior pathways. 

[The Parksider]

If the RFL increase the cap or even go the whole hog and get rid of the cap altogether we have perhaps only half a dozen teams who will have the ability not to mention the finances to make any difference to holding on to their star players should they need to.

 

Currently Saints. Leeds, Wigan, Warrington Huddersfield Salford & Catalans appear to have the capacity to introduce more private money to compete for top players.

 

In the first instance only Koukash seems to be chomping at the bit to do so.

 

In the second instance the "Marquee" window of opportunity to splash big cash is not doing anything to date to show clubs want to spend another £Million.

 

Thirdly I can't see the RFL allowing anyone to run away with SL with big signings, as the SKY audience have to be provided with a competition not a one horse race.

 

That a richer NRL can take our best off us has already happened.

 

That a richer NRL can attract more talent and new generations of antipodean RL stars means we will benefit by being able to feed off their surplus players as we do now. 

 

I see no logic in working out how we can go out there and fight them for top stars, the reality is we aren't producing many anyway and we benefit from their game being vibrant in that we get the surplus.

[The Parksider]

And yet haven't we had 2 clubs just declare 7 figure turnover? 3 declare a profit and 1 at break even?

People think we can't keep up with the other league, the truth is we are stood still waving them off 

We should peg our SC to the NRL, if you can't afford it, don't spend it.

 

The turnovers and low/no profits from them do not in any way prove that any club can find £Millions more for salaries to compete with NRL from their business funds.

 

Your on a wind up - let's take the "break even" club. Your saying that because they break even in SL they can afford to spend a £Million more on players!! What nonsense!

 

Either your not thinking straight or you know some people on here will look at what you wrote and say "Yeh the game's rich" and that will get them going.

 

And who could afford that Scotchy?

The reason the cap was first brought in was supposedly to protect the not so wealthy clubs from getting into financial trouble, and also to spread the talent available around, not to create a vast imbalance in a few clubs monopolizing the best player's.

 

Gary's not fallen for it. 

 

if that is the case that is the case. It's unfair to have both P+R and a salary cap in my opinion. The structure of the sport demands results, we can't demand results then remove a clubs tools for getting them.

If you go bust, you go bust, if you fall by the wayside you fall by the wayside and someone else gets a go

 

These slogans again have no substance.

 

Since Halifax, Workington, Paris, London, Oldham, Sheffield and Bradford "fell by the wayside" they have been replaced by clubs "having a go" including Hull, Widnes,Leigh HKR, Wakefield.

 

None of that lot are anywhere near an NRL club.

 

All we have is a small group of clubs who have rich owners who have shown little inclination to raise the salary cap and spend except Koukash who lost £5,000,000 last year and got nowhere.

 

That a couple of them could in theory break loose and spend spend spend is just that. Like the damp squib of the Marquee rule, all that would really happen is a couple of clubs would fight to dominate Superleague with their money as per pre-1996, and badly unbalance a competition that has to provide a spectacle not a one horse race or the £200M SKY contract is at risk. 

 

Your last attempt to argue SL breaking loose from it's shackles is the future of the game ended with you proposing Kallum Watkins receives £500,000 a year payable from sales of erm, Kallum Watkins shirts.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Next tv deal for super league/ euro league needs a terrestrial tv uk wide coverage element say one game per week on bbc etc, needs french element at least 2 sides maybe 3 side with French tv deal, french sides can only be replaced by other french sides english sides only replaced by english sides. Make promotion relegation subject to basic requirements of decent facilities, sponsors/funding and junior pathways.

No sport over here has a weekly domestic deal on BBC. They can't afford it.

[scotchy]

The turnovers and low/no profits from them do not in any way prove that any club can find £Millions more for salaries to compete with NRL from their business funds.

Your on a wind up - let's take the "break even" club. Your saying that because they break even in SL they can afford to spend a £Million more on players!! What nonsense!

Either your not thinking straight or you know some people on here will look at what you wrote and say "Yeh the game's rich" and that will get them going.

Gary's not fallen for it.

These slogans again have no substance.

Since Halifax, Workington, Paris, London, Oldham, Sheffield and Bradford "fell by the wayside" they have been replaced by clubs "having a go" including Hull, Widnes,Leigh HKR, Wakefield.

None of that lot are anywhere near an NRL club.

All we have is a small group of clubs who have rich owners who have shown little inclination to raise the salary cap and spend except Koukash who lost £5,000,000 last year and got nowhere.

That a couple of them could in theory break loose and spend spend spend is just that. Like the damp squib of the Marquee rule, all that would really happen is a couple of clubs would fight to dominate Superleague with their money as per pre-1996, and badly unbalance a competition that has to provide a spectacle not a one horse race or the £200M SKY contract is at risk.

Your last attempt to argue SL breaking loose from it's shackles is the future of the game ended with you proposing Kallum Watkins receives £500,000 a year payable from sales of erm, Kallum Watkins shirts.

keep going in your circles Mr Spirograph. All those arguments you set up for your self to knock down, all that circular reasoning.

I never said any club should spend more, I said if they can't afford it. Don't do it. And I never said anything about paying Kallum Watkins half a million. That's simply a lie.

You do realise that 1996 was 5 seasons before the sc right? It wasn't the SC that broke Wigan's domination. You are just wrong there.

The fact is that SC in real terms the SC is 1/3rd of what we were spending 15 years ago, and yet clubs still go bust, there is some real stats for you. The SC doesn't stop clubs going bust. It doesn't spread the talent (our big clubs still win everything) the salary cap just doesn't work, whatever your confused agenda makes you think.

[Scubby]

Next tv deal for super league/ euro league needs a terrestrial tv uk wide coverage element say one game per week on bbc etc, needs french element at least 2 sides maybe 3 side with French tv deal, french sides can only be replaced by other french sides english sides only replaced by english sides. Make promotion relegation subject to basic requirements of decent facilities, sponsors/funding and junior pathways. 

 

Sadly, in the UK we have just signed ourselves away for 7 years - yes 7 years! Absolutely insane decision in today's market. We may well be paupers in sporting terms by 2022.

[hutch]

Seems as though the NRL have also signed off til 2022 as well. Although it is a huge amount of money (so far $925 million for 4 games a week), the entire thing seems rushed. Channel 9 don't deserve to be able to just buy their way out of this, what are they going to do for our sport to improve it?

[Copa]

4 live games on free to air per week is a massive improvement!

[Bedford Roughyed]

Anzac test dropped. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11494771

[Copa]

No mention yet of Qld and Nsw cup...

[Henson Park Old Firm]

The standalone representative weekend, which this year featured the ANZAC Test on Friday night, a Pacific Test double-header on Saturday night and City-Country on Sunday, will now be headlined by Origin II and may include a New Zealand-England Test on Friday night and Tests between

the Pacific nations on other nights.

Reported in the smh

[Henson Park Old Firm]

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/stadium-deal-next-on-dave-smiths-nrl-todo-list-20150810-givpxs.html

[redjonn]

Go for a big international post season period... play the World Club challenge games and internationals in a big International Rugby month or few weeks in the different countries each year. Helps on the costs and would be a grand marketing and promotional opportunity. 

[Scubby]

The standalone representative weekend, which this year featured the ANZAC Test on Friday night, a Pacific Test double-header on Saturday night and City-Country on Sunday, will now be headlined by Origin II and may include a New Zealand-England Test on Friday night and Tests between

the Pacific nations on other nights.

Reported in the smh

 

England and NZ should get together and sign off an agreement to play a test every year for the next 5-6 years in this window. Just build it into the calendar. The England players get the previous week off from clubs and will miss 2 weeks. There will already be around 6-7 England internationals in Australia - who would be in the 17 - so only around 13-15 players need to fly out.

 

Then you would have SOO (best of NSW-Qld) and Eng v NZ and people could make their own minds up which is the higest quality roster. If we are playing 30 league games then top players missing 2 shouldn't be a problem. The Premier League clubs lose all their players for things like the Africa CON - it is life.

[DoubleD]

England and NZ should get together and sign off an agreement to play a test every year for the next 5-6 years in this window. Just build it into the calendar. The England players get the previous week off from clubs and will miss 2 weeks. There will already be around 6-7 England internationals in Australia - who would be in the 17 - so only around 13-15 players need to fly out.

 

Then you would have SOO (best of NSW-Qld) and Eng v NZ and people could make their own minds up which is the higest quality roster. If we are playing 30 league games then top players missing 2 shouldn't be a problem. The Premier League clubs lose all their players for things like the Africa CON - it is life.

 

Unless it is an authorised RLIF event then the clubs (NRL in particular) can refuse to release players. If it affects the NRL season then the Australians on the RLIF will not authorise it

[Farmduck]

Unless it is an authorised RLIF event then the clubs (NRL in particular) can refuse to release players. If it affects the NRL season then the Australians on the RLIF will not authorise it

 

Well there are 4 NZ and ENG people on the RLIF Board at the moment. Throw in the Cook Isl rep who will vote with NZ and suddnely, England and New Zealand can do whatever they like. Clearly if nothing is made of this opportunity it will have nothing to do with the NRL or the ARLC.

[Copa]

With all this money they really need to start developing to women's game. In 5 to 10 or so years I suspect there will be a women's AFL comp ru comp and more soccer showcasing women in sport on tv. Rugby league needs to get on board.

[Jim from Oz]

With all this money they really need to start developing to women's game. In 5 to 10 or so years I suspect there will be a women's AFL comp ru comp and more soccer showcasing women in sport on tv. Rugby league needs to get on board.

Totally agree … I must say that since David Smith has been NRL chief he HAS been showing a lot of support for the women's game.